James Rodriguez | joins Bayern Munich | 2 year loan

James Rodriguez - should we go for him?

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James won't play wide if we sign him. His main attributes are when he plays as a #10.

Big reason he hasn't suited Madrid is he isn't a wide player in a 4-3-3, nor is he a #8 in that formation.

James, Pogba and a holding midfielder. Perhaps Herrera but wouldn't be surprised if he's benched for someone more physical.
 
James in. Mata & Rooney out. I like Mata, but I still like the rationale behind that move if it happens.

He won't be the only big signing in attack either. Get this one done early, Jose. Turn this midtable squad inside out.
 
2 Man Midfield said:
Every year it seems we're in for another number 10 while neglecting other more glaring holes in the squad. This summer is no different.
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How can you say this signing means we will neglect other positions when we are in May?
 
Bwuk said:
James won't play wide if we sign him. His main attributes are when he plays as a #10.

Big reason he hasn't suited Madrid is he isn't a wide player in a 4-3-3, nor is he a #8 in that formation.

James, Pogba and a holding midfielder. Perhaps Herrera but wouldn't be surprised if he's benched for someone more physical.
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You can play wide and still be the playmaker like Bernardo Silva or David Silva was in the past. Where they start on the paper won't count for much as they anyways drift centrally.
 
When are we going to buy Roy Keane's replacement? Stop buying the same kind of players over and over.
 
Crashoutcassius said:
Would he take a pay cut to move do you think? Players like that don't usually take pay cuts. He's on 200k now I'd say although obviously don't know. Either way I'd say we are looking at 200, regardless of what pogba is on.

Deals are structured anyway and pogba seems to have it heavily loaded on loyalty fees etc
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Is that 200K euros or pounds? My reasoning is that it's not so much us that want him, but it's Real Madrid who want to cash in on a want-away player. In this scenario we hold the cards, and there's no desperation from our side to sign him.
 
Crashoutcassius said:
Would he take a pay cut to move do you think? Players like that don't usually take pay cuts. He's on 200k now I'd say although obviously don't know. Either way I'd say we are looking at 200, regardless of what pogba is on.

Deals are structured anyway and pogba seems to have it heavily loaded on loyalty fees etc
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What is a loyalty fee? Someone being paid extra just for sticking around here? How is that different from a base salary?
 
roonster09 said:
You can play wide and still be the playmaker like Bernardo Silva or David Silva was in the past. Where they start on the paper won't count for much as they anyways drift centrally.
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He's not going to be the playmaker. That's Pogba.

James will be there to add goals to the side. The front three behind Zlatan this year have not scored anywhere near enough.
 
Thanks but no thanks. They can offer him to us but hope Jose turns this down. We need quicker, stronger and more agile players for the premier league. We don't need him unless we're planning on selling Mata & Rooney.
 
JohnnyKills said:
Ladbrokes have suspended betting on him signing for us.

Have to say I have a really bad feeling about this one, like a lot of people on here. Just feels like we're continuing the scattergun Galactico policy which created such a mess under LVG.

Hopefully this is the rationale:
  • Our current No.10 is leaving, freeing up 300k a week from the wage bill. James will replace him while saving on the wage bill.
  • He's a huge name in South America and has been bought as a gift to the marketing team. We need to consolidate the Latin market after years of under-achievement.
  • Mourinho's still got a full budget to rebuild the squad - this is simply a commercial move that doesn't affect the coaches' transfer strategy.
  • We're unlikely to play with a No.10 in a lot of games anyway (Pogba will play AMC), so Rodriguez will simply be a glorified bench-warmer who plays in the smaller games.
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You are hoping that he is a benchwarmer as Pogba sits in the AMC role? Wouldn't that be a colossal waste of money?
 
whatwha said:
What is a loyalty fee? Someone being paid extra just for sticking around here? How is that different from a base salary?
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It's generally a part of the signing on fee that is only paid when the player doesn't ask for a move until the termination of his contract.
 
whatwha said:
What is a loyalty fee? Someone being paid extra just for sticking around here? How is that different from a base salary?
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Put simply, It is money paid over the duration of the contract (annually I think) as long as the player doesn't hand in a transfer request.
 
JJ12 said:
I think slightly different to the likes of Di Maria. James actually wants to move and will be hungry to prove he's better than being on Madrids bench.

I think he's been criminally underrated by some here. Directly involved in 70 goals in 110 games isn't something to be sniffed at either.
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I agree. Di Maria seemed to be swept out Madrid's door simply to clear the way for Bale. James, on the other hand, is just not a relevant fit within Zidane's preferred system. Very surprising how so few seem to rate him, despite him- in my view- doing very little wrong. Not forcing his way into Zidane's system seems to be the main stick used to beat him with. Yet many on here would appear to favor signing someone like Isco, who has also failed to establish himself as a starter. I would be very surprised to find he has contributed anywhere near to the 70 goals in 110 games that you attribute to James. It seems to support the view this guy has actually been pretty good for Madrid whenever they have deemed to use him. Get him playing regularly in a system that suits him and he could be fantastic for us. £40m would not be overpriced for a 25yr old with a world class talent, imo.
 
JoaquinJoaquin said:
Curious question here. Who would you regard as a #10 in our squad that you would rather play then James?
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Well we already have Mkihi and Mata that can play there. I don't think James is that much better to warrant spending that sort of money. Plus if Griezmann joins he's far superior to James.

Besides I don't want us playing with any #10. It's fairly obvious we can't if we are going to get the best out of Pogba. 433 is the way to go IMO and James is very poor out wide. Unless you play him as a #10 (which like I said I hope we don't play with one) then he's a pointless signing.
 
VanGaalEra said:
So true

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Well Young is pretty irrelevant as he pretty much exclusively plays at fullback but right on the others. So many people complain about us having no depth but then say no to potential signings because we have Mata or Mkhi as if they play every single game. I'm not a big fan of James but then I don't watch him regularly either. If Mou wants then I'd trust I think we could do with a top attacking midfielder anyway to create and score. I'd kill for someone like David Sliva, Eriksen or Ozil.
 
Bwuk said:
He's not going to be the playmaker. That's Pogba.

James will be there to add goals to the side. The front three behind Zlatan this year have not scored anywhere near enough.
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We can have more than 1 playmaker. James goal scoring record is good and he creates plenty of chances.

in 2014-15 he was a regular starter - He scored 13 goals and 13 assists in La Liga. Even in the last 2 seasons he had 16 goals + assists in la liga in very limited game time.

In total he has scored 28 goals and 27 assists in La Liga and that's just in 4964 mins. That's 90 mins per Goal+assist.

His goal scoring record is consistent even for National team.
 
The Caf' general consensus is that this guy is shite, so I'm very optimistic that this signing will work out.
 
Redo91 said:
Besides I don't want us playing with any #10. It's fairly obvious we can't if we are going to get the best out of Pogba. 433 is the way to go IMO and James is very poor out wide. Unless you play him as a #10 (which like I said I hope we don't play with one) then he's a pointless signing.
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Just like City do with De Bruyne and Silva, why couldn't we do with Pogba and James (or even Mkhi/Mata) backed up by a DM? It doesn't need to hamper Pogba at all.
 
roonster09 said:
We can have more than 1 playmaker. James goal scoring record is good and he creates plenty of chances.

in 2014-15 he was a regular starter - He scored 13 goals and 13 assists in La Liga. Even in the last 2 seasons he had 16 goals + assists in la liga in very limited game time.

In total he has scored 28 goals and 27 assists in La Liga and that's just in 4964 mins. That's 90 mins per Goal+assist.

His goal scoring record is consistent even for National team.
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He has a 1 in 3 goalscoring record for his professional career. That is an impressive return, especially when you then consider he has assisted loads too.
 
Can't believe the negativity here about this potential signing...
He's a 25 year old attacking midfielder with a goalscoring record that is better than one every three games (Mata is about one in four).
If it works out we could have him for best years of his career.
Agree this isn't a risk-free transfer but should be an upgrade on Lingard/Mata/Rooney.
 
VanGaalEra said:
So true

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This isn't the problem I have with the potential transfer, it's the fact there's other alternatives I'd rather see in a United shirt. But I have full faith in Jose to bring in the right players for the team and faith in he knows how to get the best out of them and that they're going to elevate us to the level we want to see United at.
 
AXVnee7 said:
Is that 200K euros or pounds? My reasoning is that it's not so much us that want him, but it's Real Madrid who want to cash in on a want-away player. In this scenario we hold the cards, and there's no desperation from our side to sign him.
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he do seem to get rinsed in such transactions though
 
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