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James Rodriguez - should we go for him?

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    Votes: 404 34.6%
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    Votes: 565 48.4%
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Can all play there but only Mkhitaryan has played there for a decent amount of his games.

All those players bar Pogba can play on the wing, as well as Rashford and Martial. Maybe we shouldn't buy a winger then.

When it wont be our go to system in big games , It makes no sense to buy a cam when you need wide players. In few games they can be slotted into cams.
 
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When it wont be our go to system in big games , It makes no sense to buy a cam when you need wide players. In few games then can be slotted into cams.
So your idea is that we buy players that can play in their best position in about 10% of our games and play them out of position in the remaining 90%?
 
....already explained this. Look it up if you want, or don't. We'll make a profit so long as we sell for more than €45M

The price will be decided by year of contract he's going to sign for the wages he'll revive in the new club plus addones. This is what madrid will quote.
 
When it wont be our go to system in big games , It makes no sense to buy a cam when you need wide players. In few games they can be slotted into cams.
Big question but how many midfielders and how many attackers do we need? And how much of each type?
 
Ideally 1 cdm or holding mid and 2 wingers one creative one wide player.
Sorry, I meant in total. For example, 5 midfielders and 7 attackers so we can switch between 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3 depending on the game.
 
Real won't sell James unless they make a profit which is 80 million euro? Get the feck outta here!!
 
Totally agree with the comments above - we have an abundance of quality in this attacking midfield / winger position - no need to buy another one.

UNLESS he is going to play Martial as a striker more. Then it would make sense.
 
already explained this. Look it up if you want, or don't. We'll make a profit so long as we sell for more than €45M

Theo 30m ceballos 20 m mbappe wanted 130m euros depends on sales , total= 180 m euros ( plus ronaldo's taxes 15 m :p)

Morata ( 90 m fixed no less) ( james 45 m euros for break even Plus potential profit negotiated but less suitors , next year after the world cup price bump 80 m ) Plus summer budget depending on summer sales

Books balanced as much as possible or no sales

That's how it actually works for perez and madrid .
 
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Theo 30m ceballos 20 m mbappe wanted 130m euros depends on sales , total= 180 m euros ( plus ronaldo's taxes 15 m :p)

Morata ( 90 m fixed no less) ( james 45 m euros for break even Plus potential profit negotiated but less suitors , next year after the world cup price bump 80 m ) Plus summer budget depending on summer sales

Books balanced as much as possible or no sales

That's how it actually works for perez and madrid .
Well not entirely i think our budget was around 75me net spend according to the last financial meeting to the socios.

At the moment we are at that figure already when you include Dani Ceballos. The three players in danger of leaving are Danilo, Morata and James. We already have James replacement, so in order for the Mbappe sale to go ahead i think we would need to make a combined 125me from James + Morata. If Danilo is sold then that's just a bonus.

Edit: Also if you factor in we only spent 30me last summer, we prob have a little more wiggle room than normal.
 
If Lukaku is taking the no.10 jersey, then this move does not seem to be happening.
 
I'll like him here any time but he's not coming.

I think no club is interested in him actually but Madrid are trying to market him only.
 
The price will be decided by year of contract he's going to sign for the wages he'll revive in the new club plus addones. This is what madrid will quote.
Probably, that seems to be how it works nowadays. Still, my point is that we don't need to sell for something outrageous to make a profit, and we likely won't play hardball as much as we're doing for Morata

Your thought process is fascinating btw
 
I expect PSG to sign him once all the possibility of signing Mbappe and Coutinho become zero.

Fwiw he may be a 'fringe' player for Madrid but he's still the most productive #10 on the planet, whoever signs him will have a great player on their hands. It doesn't make sense for us because we already have ton of #10 albeit not of his quality but we need different options.
 
I expect PSG to sign him once all the possibility of signing Mbappe and Coutinho become zero.

Fwiw he may be a 'fringe' player for Madrid but he's still the most productive #10 on the planet, whoever signs him will have a great player on their hands. It doesn't make sense for us because we already have ton of #10 albeit not of his quality but we need different options.
This is simply not true - we have only one genuine #10 and that is Mata. Anybody else can also be played in the position but it is not their best position.
 
This is simply not true - we have only one genuine #10 and that is Mata. Anybody else can also be played in the position but it is not their best position.

I'd argue even though Mkhi and Lingard are fielded as wide players they don't play like one with their tendency to drift in. We don't have any winger in the squad so £65 million instead of a player like James could be invested there.
 
I'd argue even though Mkhi and Lingard are fielded as wide players they don't play like one with their tendency to drift in. We don't have any winger in the squad so £65 million instead of a player like James could be invested there.
That is a different argument and does not automatically make them a #10. Mkhi actually struggled at Dortmund when Klopp used him as a #10. His success under Tuchel came while playing on the right flank and drifting inwards. Doesnt matter where Lingard plays, he just doesnt have the quality.

If we are going to be playing 4-2-3-1, which I think is our best formation against the majority of opposition as the would park the bus and given we lack elite talent upfront, then we need to upgrade at the #10 position. Mata should not be first choice.

If we go with a 4-3-3, we would need to upgrade on both flanks, as the current quality of the attacking trio (Lukaku+Mkhi+Rashford/Lingard) will not be potent enough to carry us. More so it will be more defensive and lack a creative force that would fully bring the other attackers together.

As for wingers, Mourinho doesnt really play with the traditional winger to provide width. He actually wants his wingers to drift centrally and full back provides width. If we buy another winger, it is more than likely going to have to play in the same way.
 
This is simply not true - we have only one genuine #10 and that is Mata. Anybody else can also be played in the position but it is not their best position.
Who isn't trusted in that position by Mourinho, nor was he by Van Gaal.
 
Would like James for a decent price. But €75m for him is absurd. He couldn't even make the squad in the CL final. At €40m-50m he'd be worth it. Also if we sign him, we'll be selling Mata and could get back some money there. His set piece speciality and goals would definitely help us. But there remain question marks over his attitude and party lifestyle, though it's very hard to confirm wether it's true or not.
 
Why do people say we need to sell Mata if we buy James? We need two good players in every position.

Mkhi - James - Perisic
.........Lukaku

Lingard - Mata - Martial
.........Rashford

That's the depth and quality Manchester United should have.
 
I'd rather sign a winger and use Mkhi at 10. Or even Mata. We have the players there already and they're good enough, let's try and sign the right players to complement them and actually get the best out of the ones we have.
 
I'd rather sign a winger and use Mkhi at 10. Or even Mata. We have the players there already and they're good enough, let's try and sign the right players to complement them and actually get the best out of the ones we have.
Exactly.

I don't believe the rumour anyway. Doubt Perez will be dealing with us any further this season. Plus it sounds like Chelsea are after him, and I hope they get him.
Can't understand why people here are so impatient with our current players and want us to buy everyone, especially a guy like James with a purportedly shit attitude.
 
I'd rather sign a winger and use Mkhi at 10. Or even Mata. We have the players there already and they're good enough, let's try and sign the right players to complement them and actually get the best out of the ones we have.
This is what I don't get.

Mkhi - played as a 10 in BVB and it didn't work. Had to be switched to a wide right role to get him back to his best - or to any level of competence to be fair. He's wasted as a 10. Also, his weakest part (from last season as well) was conversion. Hardly the most ringing endorsement of why he should be a 10, surely?

Mata - never been a 10 trusted by any manager, including Jose. Why exactly would that change this season? He's not a 10 cut out for the Prem, and the sooner we all accept that, the sooner we can move on to bigger and better things.

In summary, James is one of the top 2-3 players in the world for that position. I'd rather take James than any other player for that position. If we are budget-constrained and need a stop-gap for a position which needs to be one of Mata / Martial, I'd rather that were on the wings, to be honest. The absence of a 10 means that whenever we switch to a 4-2-3-1, we have either Lingard or Fellaini playing that position. That is a deal-breaker for me.
 
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