James Rodriguez| Is considering his options

Or they are badly trained by Van gaal and the next manager trains them to perfection.

Barcelona & Bayern have hardly changed the Van Gaal routines.

@ravi2 Think about the strictness of his training regime and that really does show up in game as a strict almost unpleasant footballing tempo. However, you suddenly take the strictness out and take the lab mice out the box and you have lab rats fighting against common mice.
 
If he is available we should be trying to get him. I think he's a great players he just needs the right environment. He's just one of many stars at Madrid while here he would probably be the best player. Could play behind the striker or wide left.
 
I really like James, but I feel Januzaj is a similar type of player and I still have faith in him to turn it around.
 
For the money mentioned we be much better off improving areas that need major improving, not barely upgrading on players we have in Mata.
 
There's a video circulating on the net of him laughing when Real conceded their second against Wolfsburg.
 
Just me or do Madrid always seem to have these incidents? Can remember Isco laughing recently too.
 
Looked good in WC. Fee was ridiculous. Would have to bid £40m easily at a minimum. Think theyd probs offer him to sign Hazard aswell
 
It's not the best thing to do when you're 2-0 down


Every weeks, I see players in Top 14 or Super Rugby laughing or smiling while their team is losing and no one cares, the players give everything when they are on the field and that's the only thing people care about.
 
Overdoing the partying, heavy drinking and getting pulled over by the cops for speeding and driving recklessly.

He was also involved in a high speed chase with the police through the streets of Madrid just a few months ago.
 
Really hope the Di Maria transfer hasn't put off the decision makers in the club. In a Mourinho 4231 I reckon he'd make a brilliant #10. Having said all that, an upgrade on Mata in that position isn't really a priority but if these players become available at the right price I think you have to go for them.

If it were an either/or situation I'd much rather have a pacey tricky right winger but if we're serious about splashing cash then he'd be a marvellous signing.
 
have a feeling that his laughing and the goal aren't actually related

Textbook idiot forum nonsense really.

if a player can't have a tiny laugh about something for 3seconds, when they're not even on the pitch, when it's not even anything to do with football, it's a bit of a sad state of affairs.

it is still football after all, not war, or death!
 
Really hope the Di Maria transfer hasn't put off the decision makers in the club. In a Mourinho 4231 I reckon he'd make a brilliant #10. Having said all that, an upgrade on Mata in that position isn't really a priority but if these players become available at the right price I think you have to go for them.

If it were an either/or situation I'd much rather have a pacey tricky right winger but if we're serious about splashing cash then he'd be a marvellous signing.

Has to be on people's minds now.
But surely it's not that hard to take safeguards, like for starters, playing the player in the one position they excel in. And earlier, making sure they actually want to play for you, and aren't just making do until their real ideal team comes along.
 
Has to be on people's minds now.
But surely it's not that hard to take safeguards, like for starters, playing the player in the one position they excel in. And earlier, making sure they actually want to play for you, and aren't just making do until their real ideal team comes along.
Don't even think the whole wanted PSG thing would have been a factor if Di Maria's career had continued in the same vein it started. His celebration after scoring against Everton was enough to convince me he relished being the main man. But like you said he was played out of position in a system which didn't suit him anyway before eventually being dropped. He was in no way blameless for the failure, his personality seemed to be down tools when the going gets tough but there were other factors.

Van Gaal's man managment leaves a lot to be desired but with Mourinho I doubt we'd have a problem making James comfortable at the club, could understand why Woodward would (lol) be wary of splashing out big on another Madrid "reject" though.
 
Don't even think the whole wanted PSG thing would have been a factor if Di Maria's career had continued in the same vein it started. His celebration after scoring against Everton was enough to convince me he relished being the main man. But like you said he was played out of position in a system which didn't suit him anyway before eventually being dropped. He was in no way blameless for the failure, his personality seemed to be down tools when the going gets tough but there were other factors.

Van Gaal's man managment leaves a lot to be desired but with Mourinho I doubt we'd have a problem making James comfortable at the club, could understand why Woodward would (lol) be wary of splashing out big on another Madrid "reject" though.

So much stuff for Mourinho to sort out.

Like the huge question of Rooney. Is Martial wasted out wide, does Mata have any future? And which big players do we try and bring in? Striker and someone like James?
Big decisions
 
Really hope the Di Maria transfer hasn't put off the decision makers in the club. In a Mourinho 4231 I reckon he'd make a brilliant #10. Having said all that, an upgrade on Mata in that position isn't really a priority but if these players become available at the right price I think you have to go for them.

If it were an either/or situation I'd much rather have a pacey tricky right winger but if we're serious about splashing cash then he'd be a marvellous signing.
How is it not? Mata isn't good enough.
 
How is it not? Mata isn't good enough.
Of all the players not-good-enough, Mata is the closest to being good enough. Right winger, central defence and striker are all way more important.
 
Of all the players not-good-enough, Mata is the closest to being good enough. Right winger, central defence and striker are all way more important.
The focal central hub of creativity within the side is equally as important as all of those bar maybe a no.9. Mata's replacement ought to be addressed with as much significance as a new CB or a top quality winger.
 
The focal central hub of creativity within the side is equally as important as all of those bar maybe a no.9. Mata's replacement ought to be addressed with as much significance as a new CB or a top quality winger.
The positions themselves maybe, but Mata is a hell of a lot closer to the ideal player at AM than Lingard is at RW. Surrounding him with pace and quality and he'll do well, we're not getting anywhere without a proper wide right player, central defender and probably a Carrick replacement.
 
How is it not? Mata isn't good enough.
I agree, what Mata has done so far in his United career hasn't been enough.

But we're currently either playing him or Lingard wide right and an upgrade on that position would yield greater results than leaving one of those 2 playing on the right and putting Rodriguez in the middle. Same with playing Rooney up front, an upgrade on him with Mata behind would be better than Rodriguez behind Rooney.

With all the money we have we should be improving any area possible but I said in terms of priorities; a number 10 isn't near the top.
 
If a quality player becomes available, surely we have to go all out for him? Di Maria is quality, just a pity it didn't worked out
 
The Number 10 role is key to creativity and we are severely lacking in that
Would you rather have a new number 10 and Rooney up front with Mata out wide or replace one of them 2 with an upgrade say Mahrez or Ibra and play Mata in number 10?
 
Would you rather have a new number 10 and Rooney up front with Mata out wide or replace one of them 2 with an upgrade say Mahrez or Ibra and play Mata in number 10?
I don't see Rooney figuring in our plans at all so we need a new striker and an upgrade on Mata
 
Would you rather have a new number 10 and Rooney up front with Mata out wide or replace one of them 2 with an upgrade say Mahrez or Ibra and play Mata in number 10?

New no10 or don't use the position and play 3 in midfield with a new more creative CM. We lack creativity, that plus a new winger.
Basically Mata not good enough for me at 10
 
Between James and Griezmann, who would you prefer and who would be more realistic to sign?
 
Can we have Rodriguez spelt properly in the thread title please, it's doing my nut in.

Also I'd quite happily have him here as a #10 instead of Mata or Lingard or Rooney, especially given he can play well on the wing as well.
 
New striker, new right winger and arguably new centre mid are all more pressing issues.
Can't think of any CM who is available (other than Gundogan who wont come here) who will improve as as much as Griezmann would by replacing Mata/Rooney in the second striker position. Pressing issues shouldn't merely be determined by peeking at what we have. It should have also be seen as to how much we can improve.

The issue with signing Greizmann and James is, that we'd have to sell Rooney, and I'm not sure the club intends to do that.