James McCarthy, are we being serious ? He just runs around a lot.
James McCarthy
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Really?
Haha wut?
How would it be reasonable to pay 30 mill for him?
For 30 million you could probably get Vidal a proven world class midfielder, even fabregas and modric cost around that much.
We would be insane to fork out that much money on him.
He's alright. We need better.
We are Manchester United, not Manchester Alright
They did mug us for fellaini.Christ.
That's an absurd fee.
The finances of the Premier League are going crazy, we all know that. £27 million for Fellaini two years ago is an example of United paying over the odds, for a Prem player, it happened again with Mata & we'll always get taken when buying home based players. Problem is, the top targets are not making noises about coming to us. IF, we believe what we read, Gundogan has been talking to Barca, Pogba the same - we're not on their radar as first choice, not even with the wages we can offer.
We're not getting Vidal, even if we target him, he won't come to Manchester IMO. And by the way, he was blowing a bit after an hour in the Final & was hauled off - can you imagine Roy Keane not being able to play 120 min in a game like that. Vidal, not for me.
£12-15m for McCarthy is ridiculous in the other direction though. Seems weird to me that anyone who watches plenty of the PL would think he's worth that little, or that he "just runs around a lot".
Anyway, when he leaves Everton it will be to join of the clubs who are currently better than us (Chelsea, City, Arsenal). If he's good enough for them...
He's just so unsexy. Is he even a top 4 player? Fellaini put in a transfer request, thats how much he bealived in himself, is James made of the same stuff? He will need to be to succeed here. Khedira just went to Juve for free and he has box to box energy as well.
He's a completely different player at club and international level. I saw him live at the Poland match and he was painfully gash and then against United he was MOTM. Maybe he suits Everton's system better but he's never looked the same player playing for Ireland which is aggravating.
Not good enough to start for any of them.
You could almost argue he cares more about one than the other.
Aye, it's been said plenty of times and I want to believe it's rubbish but the theory is yet to be proved wrong.
I'd definitely take him over Coquelin at Arsenal.
Not even the same type of player, and itd be a stupid move.
Barry plays the deepest as the holding midfielder for Everton, and McCarthy is the high energy runner.
Coquelin came in and completely helped shore up Arsenals leaky midfield. They'd want someone a similar type to him but better to replace him.
The game against Scotland would be a good place to start. In fairness to someone like McGeady, at least with him you get the impression he'd kill to beat Scotland. McCarthy seems to lack that sort of flintiness with Ireland.
Sort of referred to it in an earlier post but I see McCarthy moving deeper as he progresses, especially when he moves to a bigger club. Just my opinion though.
That would be completely wasting his biggest assest, which is his energy and running.
He also played the deep role to great affect at Wigan. He is equally as good, if not better in the deep role imo.
I would love him to put in a performance against the Scots like he does most weeks for Everton, but I remain pessimistic.
He played the deeper role at times for Wigan and was very good at it, he's able to be very disciplined defensively.
He's also likely to move to that role if he stays at Everton (I think) as Barry goes and his midfield partners are either Cleverley or Besic.
His energy and running are a big strength but I wouldn't underestimate his general defensive game or discipline either.
If we're buying just one midfielder this Summer, its going to need to be more then this lad. If we're buying two (which we need to), then I'd be more then happy if he was one of those two.
Cleverly keeping Mccarthy out of the side? You cannot even be remotely serious.sooooo Cleverley, who couldn't get into our team, goes to Everton, and people are seriously suggesting the chap who Cleverley might keep out of Everton's side.
I haven't watched a lot of Everton games but from seeing him a lot for Ireland, I'd say he's worth £10m at most! Maybe he preforms better for Everton though. He doesn't do much wrong but he never really stands out and given how shit our team is, it should be relatively easy to stand out! Still though, it would be nice to see and Irish player playing for United again.
No thank you, what's up with people being ok with us being linked to players that won't be moving us forward? Aren't the current batch of not so great players not enough at the club? 30Mill for him would be daylight robbery.
Far too many people in this thread know sweet f*ck all about McCarthy and what he has to offer.
Sad truth is that if he had a fancy name and played at a similar level in Italy or Spain more people would be receptive to signing him.
For the record I don't think we're in for him anyway but I've seen enough of McCarthy to know he'd currently be good enough to play in our midfield.
Sad truth is that if he had a fancy name and played at a similar level in Italy or Spain more people would be receptive to signing him.
For the record I don't think we're in for him anyway but I've seen enough of McCarthy to know he'd currently be good enough to play in our midfield.
Not the "If he was called McCarthdinho" stuff, most have acknowledged he's a decent player, but we only have one elite player in any position and he's about to be sold, spending more money on more mid level players wont move us back to where we were in 2008/9.
But he clearly isn't a mid level player, he's a very good player and I'm sure he'll become an important player to whichever club he'll join.
Probably half of RedCafe doesn't rate Rooney, I think there can be severe underrating of British and Irish players on here at times.
I don't see anything that indicates he's more than a mid level player, a solid PL CM but nothing special, certainly not one who will ever be a top bracket midfielder.
But not every player we're gonna sign is gonna be top bracket? In fact our top bracket signings last summer were our worst.
True, he doesn't look anything near United quality when he's playing for Ireland. As others have said though, he consistently performs much better with Everton for whatever reason...
Believe me, if his Ireland displays were all he could offer then I wouldn't want him anywhere near United either.
Until we get someone top bracket in midfielder and up front we'll continue to lag behind, £30M on another CM of McCarthy's level is just moving sideways.
I'm not sure how it can be considered moving sideways when he'd improve our midfield?
I don't think he would, he isn't as good as Carrick or Herrera so he would merely add a player who isn't as good as what we have, not improving upon what we have which is what we should be doing.
He's dominated our midfield on more than one occasion.
Anyway you clearly don't rate him which is fair enough, I'd be surprised if we were interested but he's a great midfielder.
I'm sure a lot of people said Carrick would never be top brackett either (and in many ways they would have been right). That didn't stop him being a linchpin in the side for years of success. Team building isn't as simple as buying the most talented player in every single position.
Anyway, I doubt many of us are insisting that McCarthy (or Schneiderlin) should be our only midfield signing in this hypothetical scenario. Just that they would strengthen us in a problem position and could potentially become important cogs in the team. Hardly outlandish stuff.
I think we need to add that caliber of player though before dropping £30M on an extra option, plus I doubt at that price he'd come to simply play rotation.
Schneiderlin I can see, I think he offers more all round than McCarthy and has performed well deeper and as a box to box CM.