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James McCarthy
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
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Who misspelt it? Quick skim shows people getting it right?
Also you might want to sort out that shambolic punctuation before having a go at everyone else.
He already is a very good player and developing well. Lots of Evertonians had him down as their player of the year.
Gerrard was better, but Henderson is by a million miles our 2nd most important player. Henderson was very good last season.
if we are in for McCarthy...it will never be as a substitute for Kroos.
some pretty poor assumptions in some reports.
some pretty poor assumptions in some reports.
It's a good thing we aren't in for him, then, isn't it?
It looks like some people haven't even watched him play.
He'd be an excellent buy. We should've bought him last year.
He'd be an excellent buy. We should've bought him last year.
SSN removed the McCarthy news like magic. 
Someone must have trolled them really hard.
Someone must have trolled them really hard.Er... Luis Suarez?
You can't be serious. I struggle to think of a player in this league with more stamina than McCarthy and he brings infinitely more bite to midfield. And yes he offers a lot of the qualities both Cleverley and Carrick have - that's a good thing. Carrick's positional sense and anticipation, Cleverley's clever passing in tight spaces (with more purpose)...these are great qualities to have in a young player.
very much agree with that.
I'm not sure if the McCarthy discussion is because Everton wants Cleverley or if we are just shoring up our midfield options. Fletcher cant continue imo...and Carrick has lost his legs.
Suarez is the most important followed by Henderson.
Sorry but he's not good enough to play for Manchester United.
You used to have people saying Fletcher wasn't good enough for United even while he was an important of league- and CL-winning sides. Some players are just under-appreciated because of their role and playing style. They're not impressive so they're not very good.
Like Tom Cleverley?
McCarthy has managed to excel in an advanced midfield role, a central midfield role in a midfield two or three and as the holding midfielder. Cleverley has yet to figure out what his best role is. They may be somewhat similar in stature and style but they are at very different stages in their development.
He would have been a great buy last year for £13m yeah. The £25m Everton will want now makes it a no go imo.
Cleverly has stamina. Flamini has stamina. Willian has stamina. Ramirez has stamina. Henderson has stamina. Noble has stamina. Colback has stamina..... Stamina is not enough.
He is on the same level as cleverly working. He has the same level of passing as carrick.
He would not revolutionize the MF like Kroos or fabregas would.
I thought it was a joke, seeing him linked with us. We have been giving out for four or five years about the MF and he would not make a difference.
This would be true if Carrick was 10 years younger. Cleverley is nothing like either of them.
McCarthy wouldn`t be the most exciting signing, but he had an excellent season playing deep in midfield, and he could develop and grow with our back 5, all of whom would be young and talented:
------------Welbeck----------------
LWF---------------Januzaj/Mata
-------------Kagawa/Mata
------FancyCM----------------
Shaw------McCarthy--------Rafael
------Jones--------Smalling----
--------------De Gea------------
looks like a very nice team in 2-3 years, with a Rooney sell and our coffers paying for a top wing player and a superstar 8 like Kroos, Fabregas or Vidal.
He's stood out at Wigan and stood out at Everton. He's a very good player who may go on to become a real top player. However, we're in the position where we need players that are already at the top of their game and he isn't that. He's the sort of player that you'd be happy to sign and add him to an already quality midfield, but not when you're looking to build a brand new one.
Spot on.
We need a hard-working defensively sound midfielder and James McCarthy fits the bill. He's very good technically as well. I'd be happy if we signed him, even if it took 30 million.
If we got someone like McCarthy/Strootman we'd have a much better base to work with. Then we could worry about signing a creative playmaker in there.
If we got someone like McCarthy/Strootman we'd have a much better base to work with. Then we could worry about signing a creative playmaker in there.
So any player that doesn't revolutionise the midfield should be ruled out from the beginning? I don't think that's how it works. Chelsea's central midfield options were not much better than ours 6 months ago and they signed Matic. Matic would not have revolutionised our midfield and hasn't revolutionised Chelsea's midfield, but he's a building block in that formidable midfield which Mourinho wants to build and McCarthy would be the same for us.
I personally think that anyone who thinks Cleverley works as hard/runs as much as him hasn't seen enough of him to judge. I agree with Pocco in that I see McCarthy at a similar level to Strootman. Many will laugh that suggestion off but that's just how it goes, Strootman's the current flavour of the month. It was Gustavo for a short period last year and look how he's done.
I'd feel much better rotating him or someone like Schneiderlin into the side if of our shiny new midfielders suffers an injury or suspension than Fletcher, Cleverley, Ando or the mop and most top sides usually have 4 good midfielders to rotate from, so if he is available for the price of a squad player it won't be bad at all to go for him. Its unlikely we will buy two utterly top players in one summer for the CM spot and both of them were better than Carrick last season.
The problem is that Everton will not sell him for any less than very good money and we could likely get someone with more upside if we look elsewhere in Europe.
The problem is that Everton will not sell him for any less than very good money and we could likely get someone with more upside if we look elsewhere in Europe.
Strootman is a cog for Roma as well. He wasn't a 'midfield revolutionizing' signing.
McCarthy would be a great buy. Think he'd be a great replacement for Carrick long term and is at an age where he can keep improving.
Unfortunately we missed our chance last year. Everton don't need to sell and McCarthy is probably happy under Martinez for now atleast.
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A) No one player will revolutionize our midfield, not even someone like Kroos. We need an overhaul in that position, which means more than one player and more than one type of player.
B) McCarthy does in fact work harder than Cleverley, one of several ways in which he is superior to Cleverley.
C) McCarthy does indeed have a lot of stamina. He also has passing range, aggression, versatility, intelligence, experience and youth. You make him sound like a "kick people and run about" merchant.
There is i would guess a lot of irish posters coming here on saying McCarty is the answer. Fellani would maybe do a simliar job in the center to him. Maybe not as good, but certainly close.
I dont see it. I dont see what he will bring. You are saying no MF will revolutionize that position. If you had fabregas or verratti, you would see a difference in passing. You are saying as well that mccarty has good passing. He doesnt. He does not have the vision or awareness.
I dont see it. I dont see what he will bring. You are saying no MF will revolutionize that position. If you had fabregas or verratti, you would see a difference in passing. You are saying as well that mccarty has good passing. He doesnt. He does not have the vision or awareness.
--Kroos has vision. He can see a pass.
--Tom cleverly actually works very hard. Its the reason he is picked. The lad doesnt have the technical ability, so he makes up for it in work-rate.
--A lot of players have good stamina. Guardiolas barca had great stamina. McCarty doesnt have passing range, he has aggression as do a lot of players, versatility yes, then so does jones, intelligence: average, experience: every player over 25 has that and youth, yes.
Maybe that's because Irish fans have seen more of him than you have. If you think he's comparable to Fellaini then that's the only explanation. He's twice the player.
He's an aggressive, hard-working, energetic midfielder with good positioning who can also move the ball quickly under pressure. He hasn't got the greatest range to his passing but I'd be more confident of him keeping the ball under pressure than I would with Carrick. He would be a great signing.
I'd have absolutely loved McCarthy last year. Great player. Everyone loved Carrick last year when we won the league and McCarthy is as good as Carrick every was if not better and he is still only 23. Can play in any midfield role, sit deep, box-to-box, whatever you want. Great mobility, good reading of the game and great technical ability. I don't really see us signing him though. He is a star man at Everton and they won't want to sell especially not for a realistic price and he isn't the type to throw a hissy fit and demand a transfer. He'll be more than happy to stick with Roberto Martinez. If we could manage to get him for 20m or so though I'd love to have him.
So whats the rumour with this guy. I saw it on SkySports early on, but it's been taken down, so does this potentially have any legs or not.
I actually don't mind McCarthy, but he'd be somebody I would want to see as a squad player at most
I actually don't mind McCarthy, but he'd be somebody I would want to see as a squad player at most
Not even close. McCarthy has a great engine and can get around unlike Fellaini. He can sit deep and read the game ala Carrick in his prime which Fellaini can't do. He is extremely comfortable on the ball, ask any Everton fan when being pressed facing back to his own goal none of them are worried, which Fellaini isn't. Fellaini simply isn't a similar player and can't do half the things McCarthy can.
My point is we have fletcher, carrick, fellani, cleverly, jones who can play that role. Why do we need another person who will maybe do a bit better than them but not as much.
What will happen, is McCarty wont live up to the expectations that are demanded of being a united MF and the fans will turn on him like we did, harshly with cleverly and fellani.
Fellani in some games this season when he came back from injury was well able to get up and down the field. I am not saying he is worth 27 million, but he can move.
Not as much as McCarthy. It is simple if you think Fellaini can play like McCarthy you have never watched McCarthy play.
Bolded parts are wrong.
1) It isn't just Irish posters praising him, though obviously we have seen a lot more of him than most.
2) Nobody is saying McCarthy is the answer.
3) McCarthy is a totally different type of player to Fellaini and the job they'd do in our midfield would be totally different. They're not remotely similar really.
4) McCarthy is a very good passer of the ball.
I am irish and i have seen a lot of him. I am just honest and a realist.
It would take about 25ish million to make everton sell. Now for that money, there will be a lot of expectation on his shoulders. We would be better off signing someone similar but cheaper. Cheick Tiote would do a similar job
Bolded parts are wrong.
1) Look at those supporting McCarty. Its either irish (bar me) or everton supporters.
2) Mccarty gets stuck in. Fellani gets stuck in. McCarthy is a holding DM, Fellani was like a versatile MF. You could interchange the two.
3) Hes an average passer of the ball. In the mould of carrick at best. Deciding when to pass is a big skill as well.
im not saying he is terrible. But this is man utd. Hes not good enough. You might say i am unpatriotic, but i have to be real.
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