WUM or just straight up stupid.
You are seriously hyping up Mccarty to be something he is not. He is good, but not great.
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You are seriously hyping up Mccarty to be something he is not. He is good, but not great.
Of course everton fans are going to say he is great. What else do you expect them to say. Arsenal fans say ozil is great...
You rate Tiote so I'm just going to leave you be.
McCarthy would be an amazing buy, one of the players I hoped would join us last summer... A dream signing if this comes off. Would instantly become a permanent fixture in our starting line up.
I didnt rate tiote if you read my post. I said mccarty is on the same level as him in terms of what he would bring to the team
I know plenty of Arsenal fans who say Ozil hasn't been great. We don't wax lyrical about our midfielders. You don't praise a player simply because he is on your team unless you are simple.
Tiote isn't even good. He's barely average if even that.
So you rate Tiote as highly as McCarthy. Point stands. Clueless.
Well there are lots of arsenal fans you know....and some may just differ, perhaps
Perhaps your inflated view of mccarty is a problem
McCarthy has been praised by anyone who has watched Everton regularly this season, regardless of nationality. Or, indeed, anyone who watched Wigan regularly. Even before he signed for Everton I saw him getting big praise from journalists in England.
For example, while he was still at Wigan Rory Smith said: "I think it would almost be a waste for McCarthy to move to a top four club, if I was him I'd go abroad. I think McCarthy is a genuinely top quality midfielder, maybe not Real Madrid or Barcelona, but he can play for anyone he wants."
He also received similar praise from the likes of Winter, Marcotti, Barrett etc etc.
So no, it's not just Ireland/Everton fans who rate him.
Ignores the big gap in technical quality and intelligence between the two, rather important traits in a midfielder.
Of all the things I'd criticise Carrick for his passing ability would be low on the list. Could McCarthy be more ambitious with his passing sometimes? Of course. He's still just 23 though, he could still improve, especially at a top club. Besides, nobody is really saying McCarthy could reach Fabregas/Kroos levels. The people supporting him here are saying he'd be excellent alongside a player like that.
That is generalizing. Not everyone has being praising him. Part of the reason he is been talked about is because the club have performed well. Its the same at Southampton, wherein Lallana is hyped up because Southampton have been performing well.
Says it all. If he isnt good enough for the real madrid or barcelona team, why is he good enough for our team. If he was so good, PSG, Monaco, Man city, Chelsea would be out trying to buy him.
Expecting McCarty to come into our MF and change it, maybe not all of it, but improve it quite considerable, wont happen.
One must equate price with performances as well. If we had bought fellani for 7 million, he would not be as near criticized. That we paid 27 million for him and he cant justify that price, means we become overly critical of him. Now it would take a similar fee to get McCarty and he will not back up that much money with performances. For that much money you would have to be assisting regularly and have a lot of indirect assists.
The club might trade him an fellani plus a price, which may be better. But after the debacle of last summer i doubt they will front up the money.
Even though I'm Irish, I've no idea how good or ok McCarthy is. Can someone give me a rundown on how good he is compared to others and what kind of player he is in midfield?
Because we don't have Modric, Alonso, Fabregas and Xavi in our squad.
How does this happen?
I don't think you have seen much of McCarthy. He's a fighter, he's always there to cover our backs in defense and we'd have been exposed without him. I've said before somewhere that if you think Park had 3 lungs, McCarthy must have 4, it's incredible. He can be a bit dirty in his tackling sometimes but he leaves his mark on people (Quite literally in some cases...) He keeps everything ticking with a purpose, he wants to get involved with it to move forward, and he bursts forward with an abundance of energy and like @@BigDunc9 has shown above he has the awareness to play it off to people. The only thing he's lacking is a few goals but he's been getting himself into the correct positions, he just needed to get the first one off his back.
Also, like i said to @@BigDunc9 yesterday and we both agreed on. He's a player that you trust when they're on the ball. With his back to goal i don't get worried that he'll be caught out as he's very intelligent footballing wise, and knows exactly how much time and space he has to do things. He gets you out of tight situations and opens space for other players to work with.
Posted this earlier but you get the gist.
Not paying attention to football that much other than United this year. Final year and all that. Last year I didn't pay attention to him either....
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- I'd take McCarthy over nobody..might be more what we need to - mobile, can pass a bit, can tackle a bit..Kroos is a superb passer, but he's no all-rounder.hahahahaha, Aldi have tampons on special at the minute bro, you should stock up.. get yourself a pair of reading glasses too while your at it
I never imagined that we would be in for him after Everton fleeced us for Fellaini last season. Kept hoping for his signing last summer, and would be ecstatic if got him this term. Some £15m + Cleverley would be a great deal. I would have been happy with Schneiderlin, McCarthy is an upgrade on him, imo. Plus, he is one of the best players from the region and we have always signed these kind of players.
Surprised people would have been happy with an unknown in Carvalho or an injured Strootman for £35m odd but are underwhelmed with the speculation to sign McCarthy.
Surprised people would have been happy with an unknown in Carvalho or an injured Strootman for £35m odd but are underwhelmed with the speculation to sign McCarthy.
Great response, the words of someone who hasn't a clue what to say, really.
The journalist meant in a figurative sense, as in is he good enough for madrid or barca, given what they look for in terms of a player.
Could you see John O'Shea playing for Barcelona and Real? Madrid thought Jose Antonio Reyes was good enough for them. Thomas Gravesen? Adebayor? Buying a player is a lot more complicated than just assumptions based on level of ability. It's not quite "McCarthy, rating <75" not good enough for "Man Utd, rating 85" in my opinion.
You are both validating and refuting my argument in your answer.
Of course because if you go back I said everything that needed to be said but you are obviously much more in the know than anyone else... All hail cina that all knowing ........
This right here truly mesmerises. Midfield would have been sorted for years.
The 27 million for Fellaini was payback for us underselling Rooney by a good amount to yous anyway.
Not watched him loads at Everton or Wigan but what I've seen so far matches up with how people have described. He's comfortable in a high tempo system focus like Wigan and Everton have had so he's clearly got technical ability and passing skill. He's also mobile and has stamina. Disciplined and can also contribute in the attacking phase. I'd describe him as a more mobile but lesser talented Busquets. Could slot into that sort of system and do well enough. Not sure on his top end but he's definitely a good player.
But we took Moyes away from you so if anything you're the ones that owe us now. Even McCarthy on a free wouldn't make up for that one.
Hm - we didn't exactly get Rooney on the cheap, as I recall. He's been worth the investment, though, obviously, and arguably would have been even if we'd paid more back then.
Anyway, Everton would surely fleece us on a possible McCarthy deal too. I like him, by the way, wouldn't mind seeing him in a United shirt. But there are perhaps better options.
O'Shea in his prime would have held his own at Barcelona and I'd even go as far as saying he'd do a job there today too. They weren't sniffing around him for nothing back in 2010.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...n-OShea-linked-surprise-Barcelona-switch.html
Ya never mind Kroos/ Fabregas/Vidal, McCarthy is our midfield messiah
My point is, I don't agree with you saying McCarthy would definitely not be a good signing for us just because Barcelona and Madrid wouldn't want him, because, as I've pointed out, they have better options in midfield than us.
Really? John O'Shea? Playing for Barcelona? He hardly looked comfortable on the ball at United. If people think he can play for Barcelona, then McCarthy wouldn't look out of place as well.
Probably why Barcelona wanted McCarthy too.
Ya never mind Kroos/ Fabregas/Vidal, McCarthy is our midfield messiah
Once upon a time the midfielder that fixed a serious problem we were having in midfield was a midfielder bought from Tottenham named Michael Carrick.
Exactly. Some of our fans have this weird sort of midfield snobbery going on despite the fact that our midfield is a barren wasteland.
James McCarthy would improve us greatly and would probably be our best midfielder now that Carrick is on the wane.
He probably would but he would cost us double, compared to what we would have paid for him last year. Everton will want at least over 20 million for him and he is not worth that.
He had Scholes next to him having a major resurgence in his favourite role though.
I'd like McCarthy a lot but he'd have nothing but shite next to him.
I don't think we're even after him but that is the type of player we should be looking for. If we have to pay a bit more than we'd want then so be it really.
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