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James McCarthy
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
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Without doubt he'd be relatively successful here and an improvement on our current midfield options, Herrera aside.
We're too snobby, people didn't want Cabaye last year... This is how you build a strong squad à la Bayern and Madrid, you take players like Fellaini and Anderson and replace them with players like McCarthy.
He'd definitely play beside Ramsey for Arsenal, as he's better than Arteta and Flamini.
Exactly! So would I.I wanted Cabaye
Hell, I'd take Schneiderlin if he's going.
Like I said for all we know Arsenal were interested last year, McCarthy has a loyalty to Martinez and probably felt Everton was the best next step for him. He's a level headed kid.
Why's McCarthy been cut as short as 1/3? Have there been some reports that I've missed or something?
I've seen that he said he was flattered but that was a few days ago now and nothing big.
Like feck would we sell our best player of the season after signing Lukaku and Barkley on long term deals.
Good, you can keep him.
Gladly. He's a similar level to Herrera anyway.
Sky Bet tweeting to make people bet more.
Odds mean feck all.
Odds mean feck all.
Wonder how much would ye would actually be willing to sell him for. 30m?
I love McCarthy, and was a frequent contributor to his previous (i.e. not transfer forum) thread, but this is pure bullshit.
Which probably means he won't be at Everton for long.
Hes in the level below the top midfielders. Same as Herrera in my view.
People said the same about Barkley and Lukaku.
Steady on. You've only had Barkley (first proper season), Lukaku and McCarthy for one consistent season, and there's already been teams sniffing around. Another season like last season from all three, and I doubt you'll be able to keep them.
That said, I don't rate Lukaku that much, and if there were any top teams after him this Summer, there's no way you would have signed him, in my opinion.
And if Herrera was good enough to play for Barca or Madrid you wouldn't have got him.
Yeah but you also thought Fellaini would be a great CM alongside Clev or Carrick.
Considering what Everton just spent on Lukaku, I'd wager he'd cost us a pretty penny now anyway.
Another one to add to the long list of midfielders we've not bothered to attempt to sign when they were available.
Another one to add to the long list of midfielders we've not bothered to attempt to sign when they were available.
He's doing very well for himself but he still has a lot to learn. Before last season began, I'd have placed McCarthy and Cleverley on a par (maybe Cleverley slightly ahead); one good season in the Premier League with Everton does not mean he's not just below the elite midfielders, however.
As for Herrera, he's ahead of McCarthy already and will continue to prove that. I hate the word "ceiling" but I believe that Herrera possesses more potential than McCarthy, not to mention the fact that McCarthy is quite one-dimensional in contrast to the number of roles Herrera can fulfil.
Ronaldo signed a new contract at United merely months before he left United. Christ, Thiago Silva signed a new contract merely weeks before he left Milan. Contracts means feck all in the modern game. If the selling club is presented with an incredible amount of money, that player is being sold, regardless of the noises being made.
What? We can't buy every central midfielder in the world, FFS!
Even the ones who have gone on to do not very much...Dembele....Wanyama...I'd still take over some of our options which says it all!
You seriously don't believe that, do you?
We bought none for about 7 years. Probably a world record time to elapse if you look at Real, Bayern or Barca over the past 50 years!
Much better player than Cleverley. Do a swap and throw in a-few quid; Martinez likes Cleverley and McCarthy would be a very good player for us.
And it's not a shame to be not considered good enough to play for that Barca midfield. Heck, they got shot of Thaigo and Fabregas 'cause they thought they were not good enough. Regarding Madrid, they play someone like Khedira alongside Modric and Alonso. And I rate Herrera above Khedira so not playing for Madrid is more because he was not the flavor of the season for Bilbao else he would have been targeted by Madrid. Look at Isco. Was sublime for Malaga and barely gets a look in at Madrid.
Wait, are you serious here?
Fellaini was the first midfielder we've bought in since 2007 (well, Powell excluded). There's a difference between buying them all and buying none.
Barca have not had the best of times with CBs. So every team has their own Achilles heal.
And that is very debatable. He's more of a number 10 than CM if you ask me but feck knows what that toilet brush's best position is.
Good player and would make an ok signing(Can't see it happening).But as soon as Carrick's back then I would image it would Herrera and Carrick being are main midfielder's,we've already got Cleverley who I think not as good as Mccarthy but the difference is pretty minimal. So we would be buying a really decent back up which isn't really a problem but it's not a great solution either.
Also if you look at the potential we've got in the youth team with the Rothwell,Pearson who have got great potential and then LVG record of starting youth players then signing Mccarthy would only really be useful for this coming season.
Also if you look at the potential we've got in the youth team with the Rothwell,Pearson who have got great potential and then LVG record of starting youth players then signing Mccarthy would only really be useful for this coming season.
If United would come with a substantial bid you'd sell him.
Maybe thats for a reason ? Or maybe because like McCarthy people actually don't watch how he plays and instead look at the teams he plays for and automatically dismiss him as not good enough. The point about Lukaku signing because no one else wanted him could be applied no near enough every transfer otherwise United would never sign a player who wasn't English as 99% of foreign players would choose Barca, Madrid and Munich first.
I would argue that there's currently a very minimal difference between McCarthy/Carrick rather than McCarthy/Cleverley. McCarthy was certainly better than Carrick last season and, though Carrick may indeed prove to be better this season, it won't be long before McCarthy has firmly overtaken him given their ages and the fact that McCarthy simply has a higher celing IMO. As for Cleverley, he's far behind McCarthy atm.
no thanks
unless he grows a mohawk, a neat beardline and gets tattoos
unless he grows a mohawk, a neat beardline and gets tattoos
How can United fans not see how soft and easy to play through their midfield is ? McCarthy would transform the team with the way he plays the game. He doesn't give the opposition an inch. Do you all want another sexy attack minded midfielder to partner Herrera and Mata ? It seems a lot of people want this to be the case.
Isn't Powell a striker/no 10 that Sir Alex believed he could convert to midfield?
I'm counting last season as a right off. This could easily turn into a Carrick debate but I don't McCarthy has anywhere near the level of skills to control games(which isn't a dig but most players don't) the Carrick can. Also Carrick's proved he's very good proving both the attacking and defence roles in midfield.
McCarthy got plenty of time to reach a high level but I do think to reach Carrick's level would take something special.
Also just to add I would Carrick in the 2nd tier in great midfielder's,1st tier players like Scholes Xavi,Keane Pirlo
This statement is like something from Looney Toons. Utterly, utterly bizarre.
McCarthy will not have anywhere near the career that Michael Carrick will have had when both are retired. Both in terms of footballing ability and honours won. Codswallop to suggest otherwise.
Last season I heralded McCarthy as Carrick's natural heir (and I believe that he's as close to Carrick as I've seen in England at that age) but I don't believe his "ceiling" is higher. Not at all.
I'd say Carrick was in the third tier....
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