Some of his passing is fantastic
Some of his passing is fantastic
Honestly he's such a great prospect in midfield, but if you give a player of his quality too much time on the ball.. the above video happens
Yes,but good players always seem to make time and space. Carrick used to be the same even at an early ageYeah, it's almost hard to assess that performance. West Brom's effort levels were pathetic. They just stood off united for the whole game and let them play.
Longstaff would cost £50m; for a prospect. Rice is basically just a destroyer (Herrera without an attacking game). We don't play with that kind of player. Many better midfielders are available for about £50m such as: Donny van de Beek, who's is still at Ajax.You championed us to sign Declan Rice and made a post saying how it will be the end of Garner if we sign Longstaff. Longstaff has played more games as a #8 in his career than as a #6 and is a very rounded midfielder by all accounts. There's no doubt that both Garner and Longstaff are more than compatible to play together, than even a Rice-Garner combo in comparison imo. I don't think you realise the type of midfielder he is if you think he will be a stumbling block for Garner.
Garner plays CDM. You'd play him in place of Matic, Fred or McTominay.Don't see the harm in giving him some of the chances Periera would otherwise get.
Yes,but good players always seem to make time and space. Carrick used to be the same even at an early age
His game against League 1 Rotherham on Tuesday was much more competitive. Just as good.Absolutely. But WB were ridiculously bad. It was weird.
Not trying to take anything away from Garner. He's great
His game against League 1 Rotherham on Tuesday was much more competitive. Just as good.
Who did you play for?
Yes. Which college?Just through my time at college, not professionally. But the point stands - youth injuries, especially in the knees and ankles, haunt you for your whole career.
This is the James Garner thread isn't it? Not the match thread.What's that got to do with West Brom last night?
So WB were ridiculously bad eh?Absolutely. But WB were ridiculously bad. It was weird.
Not trying to take anything away from Garner. He's great
9 United players started both games.What's that got to do with West Brom last night?
What's that got to do with West Brom last night?
People must be mad when they expect him to be a regular next year. He is 19 next season and plays in a position where the importance of experience can not be overestimated. It is not the same thing as being a striker.
Rodri, one of the most talented players in the world in this position, got 800 min for Villarreal when he was 20 (two years time for Garner) and was a regular at 21. Busquets and Xabi Alonso was similar.
While some player can make an impact early due to being exeptionally early developers, I do not think that is the case for Garner. He is great at U23 due to talent. Not being physically imposing. And for his position, it is even more about brains and experience.
I actually do think Garner could be a talent of similar level to some of the players I mentioned. But that is probably a stretch and an insane statement at this stage. But compared to those who expect him to be a regular next year it aint that bad.
You're comparing a youth player to an England international who won countless trophies. Wise up.He looks to be better than Carrick ever was. Carrick passing was exceptional but mobility was a downside. Garner looks to have both.
Yeah agreed. Itll take a few years for him to really brake into the team at least, it's just how it is for his type of midfielders. Loads of potential and if he keeps it up, he'll get more and more minutes, but wouldnt expect him to be a starter before he's 21 at the earliest really.People must be mad when they expect him to be a regular next year. He is 19 next season and plays in a position where the importance of experience can not be overestimated. It is not the same thing as being a striker.
Rodri, one of the most talented players in the world in this position, got 800 min for Villarreal when he was 20 (two years time for Garner) and was a regular at 21. Busquets and Xabi Alonso was similar.
While some player can make an impact early due to being exeptionally early developers, I do not think that is the case for Garner. He is great at U23 due to talent. Not being physically imposing. And for his position, it is even more about brains and experience.
I actually do think Garner could be a talent of similar level to some of the players I mentioned. But that is probably a stretch and an insane statement at this stage. But compared to those who expect him to be a regular next year it aint that bad.
Yeah agreed. Itll take a few years for him to really brake into the team at least, it's just how it is for his type of midfielders. Loads of potential and if he keeps it up, he'll get more and more minutes, but wouldnt expect him to be a starter before he's 21 at the earliest really.
Wow, that escalated quicklyHe looks to be better than Carrick ever was. Carrick passing was exceptional but mobility was a downside. Garner looks to have both.
Wow, that escalated quickly
Matic is experienced but sloppy. I'd prefer someone who is never sloppy: whether they have the experience or not. I don't see how having experience stops a CDM making mistakes. I think CDM is about 1) protecting the defense, 2) never giving the ball away, 3) distributing it. Garner does all that well.Yeah agreed. Itll take a few years for him to really brake into the team at least, it's just how it is for his type of midfielders. Loads of potential and if he keeps it up, he'll get more and more minutes, but wouldnt expect him to be a starter before he's 21 at the earliest really.
He looks to be better than Carrick ever was. Carrick passing was exceptional but mobility was a downside. Garner looks to have both.
Some of his passing is fantastic
I think he’s better than Xavi and Iniesta combinedHe looks to be better than Carrick ever was. Carrick passing was exceptional but mobility was a downside. Garner looks to have both.
Is he? I've only seen him during the very brief appearances he's had in the first team, but one thing I took from them is that he seemed faster than I expected.Indeed, especially as Garner is relatively slow.
So WB were ridiculously bad eh?
Q: Does that mean Garner only looks good playing against bad teams?
A: No. Because Garner also looked good playing against Rotherham who are League 1 standard, men, and professional footballers. Showing that Garner can handle the rough and tumble.