Double announcement. VDB & Sancho. Get it done Woody.
Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
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In the end, we will pay the 120m. I'm not even remotely nervous. It's a done deal.
He's the only signing that would genuinely take us up a gear, he is that good, so i really see this one as vital, more than a new CB or CDM or LB,
It's a steep price to pay but looking at the bigger picture, if they really have any ambition with this team Sancho is a massive piece of the puzzle.
It's a steep price to pay but looking at the bigger picture, if they really have any ambition with this team Sancho is a massive piece of the puzzle.
Sancho will be done if we pay the fee. What else could that possibly mean
Dortmund better get going and sign Zaha or some other shit so we can get this done.
Why would they sign Zaha or some other lesser player when they have Sancho? He’s their player and will remain that way this season unless Utd stump up the €120m required to buy him. Which at this point looks unlikely to say the least unfortunately.
Sancho is a marquee signing, they'll want to milk that as much as they can and for social media reasons and press it's better to have news drip filtered throughout a month than all in a day
I think it was 4-3-3 with Ronaldo, Rooney, Saha up top. Carrick, Scholes, Giggs in midfield?
Edit: I suppose this could very well be a 4-4-2 with the tactic you stated. But Ronaldo did play on the right yes.
Yes that's what I remember as well. We'd line up 442 and then especially from 07 through 09 it'd turn into more of a lopsided 433 depending on the opposition.
I assume I am right in saying that this could still 'drag on' for a number of weeks?
It’s one of those ones that’ll drag on and on for an eternity until next summer when he’ll eventually sign for another club that’s willing to stump up the money.
Expecting him to go Barca when Messi leaves. They'll pay up the money instantly
It will drag on until a club meets the valuation of the player which is 120meur
I think a lot of people have bought into this notion that we are all of a sudden strapped for cash.
Let’s not forget, as we entered the final few weeks of the season, Ole, Woodward and the board were confident that we would be able to take advantage of the covid situation.
Also, it’s well known our prime targets were Sancho, Grealish and a CB.
The facts at THAT time when all this talk was going on were:
- Covid is here to stay for a while
- Utd would expect to pay around £130-150m for the players they had in mind above. Even if that’s the price they had wished to get them for.
- I doubt Utd expected fans to suddenly return for the new season at that point.
- Knowing that, they most certainly would have forecasted for the eventuality that the stadiums may be empty all of the new season.
- Those facts above haven’t changed from them till now.
So the idea that Utd don’t suddenly have any money to spend is nonsense in my opinion.
Buying Sancho and VDB is still on and nothing has changed. This is not the muppet inside me talking. It’s the realist. It would be the most insane thing to do to walk away from the Sancho deal after working for so many years to bring him here. It’s not like Utd have been blown out of the water with the asking price. The asking price is very reasonable.
The idea of the club being in debt is nothing new. Utd have been in debt from the moment the Glazers walked into the club. We were in considerably more debt then than we are now. The revenues and income are considerably more now than they were then. Utd adding more debt is nothing daunting. Utd have the revenues to service the debt comfortably even if it means increasing some of that debt now.
There is no reason why Sancho and a couple of other signings won’t arrive before the end of the window. Nothing drastic has changed since Utd had these plans initially.
He literally says “Sancho will be done” if Utd pay the 120m.
Regardless, as has been discussed many times Dortmund would have to be drunk to not accept the price they are asking for.
That would be awful. Hopefully they're short on cash.
I think he means that you might be putting too much emphasis on ’will’. English is not Fabrizios first language and it shows some times.
What I took from the tweet is that the only POSSIBILITY that the deal can still be done hinges on us caving to Dortmunds demands. We already know that we’ve passed the artificial deadline where Dortmund were willing to discuss a deal so unless Dortmund are bullshitting us (entirely possible) we won’t get Sancho even if we do offer 120 million for him.
Long story short- Romano has nothing to say which we didn’t already know.
If Sancho doesn't come in, we possibly still need 2 attackers this window. James is not a great back up. Rashford has no back up on the left at all. And Ighalo goes back to china in January.
Rashford, Martial, Greenwood and James is not good enough in depth at all. Shocking in fact. Looking at other top European teams that we would call our desired level, Bayern, Juventus, man city etc.. all have great numbers and quality in those forward positions.
Rashford, Martial, Greenwood and James is not good enough in depth at all. Shocking in fact. Looking at other top European teams that we would call our desired level, Bayern, Juventus, man city etc.. all have great numbers and quality in those forward positions.
Yes, I just meant more that there is still plenty of time left to happen which is unfortunate.
Agreed. The only upside (and I mean that in the loosest possible sense) is that the version of Sancho any other team will get we'll be totally different to our own.
What does it say, for some reason tweets don't open for me.
Talks for Jadon Sancho have yet to be resolved, while #mufc are also in the market for a new centre-back #mulive [@FabrizioRomano, @ed_aarons]
Talks for Jadon Sancho have yet to be resolved, while #mufc are also in the market for a new centre-back #mulive [@FabrizioRomano, @ed_aarons]
I highly doubt that we are in for a new CB this window considering how the tight budget we are in.
Hope we get him somehow, will be kicking ourselves in a couple of years time if we miss out on him.
Ed responding to "Wot, no transfers?" thread.
It's been mentioned by multiple people we're after a CB.
We don't have even the faintest clue what our budget is, saying it is or isn't tight is total speculation.
By the looks of recent links; Badiashile , Gabriel (now of Arsenal). The target seems to be a less than 30M for a CB rather than high profile targets.
Thanks mate.
Love the “back in the market for a CB”. It’s as if we’d decided against it, but woke up this morning and thought may as well start looking at CB’s again, why the hell not...
It doesn't say back in the market?
Where did you read the word back?
Tbf - there could have been movement on Smalling that changes our approach. If he goes to Roma we get a new CB. If he stays then we’ll use him as 3rd choice.
Pretty much. Fabrizio is stringing us along with these tweets. Hypothetically, even if we do stump up the 120 m and Dortmund refuse to sell, he hasn't said anything that can't be explained away.
It doesn't say back in the market?
It doesn’t say that though.
Fair comments, mis-read on my part
If you follow his tweets he's been quite clear that 120m will get us Sancho. Reality is dynamic too - who knows what will happen, perhaps there was a time that 120 would have, and now it wouldn't. Perhaps he's right and their stance never changed.
I don't think he's trying to string anyone along though - his tweets are generally there to give us updates and the ones we scour for updates on tend to be him just answering questions.
If he was stringing us along he'd probably write a whole headline article about Sancho because that would = clicks. Instead his latest article has Sancho as a footnote, that we are yet to agree and that's that.
Pointing out that we had a fellow playing RW who has an argument for being the GOAT isn’t being condescending... it’s a fact. Ronaldo played as a classic RW almost exclusively his first 2-3 years here and he was damn good. See, cause we had a guy, Ryan Giggs, who was VERY left footed, who was played at LW. Would they swap flanks midway through the first half? Yes, sometimes. It wasn’t until the 06-07 season that Cristiano started and played on the left, won PL Player of the Year, Giggs moved more centrally, either as a second striker behind Rooney or as part of a midfield 4. SAF played Ronaldo wherever he thought the opposition was weakest.
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Not sure if disagreeing with someone is considered “condescending”, if it is, you’re in the wrong place mate.
The desperation to discredit it is odd. We've also got a poster adding in words to the tweet to make it appear more ambiguous than it actually is.
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