Tbf the only ones from that list I'd take at those prices would be Skriniar and Draxler. Even they would be maybes.
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Making up fees we supposedly could get players for is a new low on this thread.
United tax would bump all of those up.
- Cavani on massive wages would show that we've learned absolutely nothing from the Falcao, Sanchez, Schweinsteiger mistakes of our recent past
- Doucoure is not a player worth getting your knickers in a twist over not signing.
- Skriniar is visibly slow in Italian football, let alone Premier League. We need a Rio style centre back, not a Vidic.
- Juventus fans are desperate to see the back of Sandro. He's living off the glory of a good six months a few years back and is not going to be our answer at fullback.
- Draxler is handy, but not what we need at the moment. You can also guarantee that Manchester United would not have been landing him for £25m.
Is this your transfer list from FM 2017? World has moved on. I would cry myself to sleep if we wasted that amount of money on so many average joes.
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Not if they can’t shift them in the last two weeks of the window
We're not a club for bargains and top negotiation.
We'd end up going in hard after pursuing Messi and Sancho.
I agree with most of this, but I do think Cavani would be a good route for a free transfer, provided his wages aren't too crazy. I don't think he'd be demanding Sanchez level wages, Schweinstiger was well over the hill and Falcao was a crock so I don't think any of those are comparable in that regard.
And how many fans where underwhelmed by Igalho ?
That was a short term loan signing for depth in the run in. And successful. As he played some games and Martial got a rest. Don’t know what that have to do with your totally shambolic list?
You know Ighalo hasn’t been very good right? He was an okay short-term signing at the time considering the alternatives but when needing a goal in a European semifinal he was brought on in the 91st minute which says everything about what Ole thinks of him in games that matter.
Lots. But he's not exactly done anything, has he? We barely even saw him after the restart.
I'm a huge fan of Cavani - I think he's a warrior and a leader, along with being a quality footballer. But I was a huge fan of Schweinsteiger and Sanchez as well. Those types of signings work well in settled and well but together squads but we're a ways away from that still and should just focus on the path we've been headed on under Ole.
My point is he’ll cost £15m and £120k per week on a 3 year contract - circa £35m
Edison will cost £250k per week on a 2 year contract - circa £25m
Do the Math !!!
Without deterring the thread, I think the difference between these targets is that the latter examples (which went on to flop) were brought in under an expectation to be key players week in week out which we can almost operate our passages of play through. A player of Cavani's ilk for what, 175-200k wages is a lot of money, but it comes with no fee and a short term deal. I would do it because the value add in bailing out of tricky games where teams sit deep would be potentially huge. The risk/benefit analysis is more appealing from the way I see it at least.
It was rumoured that Ighalo took a huge pay cut to play here.
You are comparing apples and potatoes tough.
Ighalo is a huge United supporter brought in for a very specific role - a backup for Martial and a rotating option.
Cavani would not come here playing second fiddle. And we would not buy him in and play him as a back up on huge wages and a 2-3 year contract. It would definitely not have been a good situation for the club at all.
Bastian was not necessarily a flop. He never had a poor game from memory and was very solid. He did what he was asked to do when he played and then the manager stopped using him for who knows why. For me, Bastian was more of a lost opportunity.
Have you not been following us post Ronaldo? We’ve spent a billion on players and still have a squad with no RW, one injury prone LB, one DM who’s getting on, a backup striker on loan till jan, no left footed attackers and about 10 centre backs but we are still in the market for another? I’d say average joes are our speciality the last 10 years
I’d literally cry myself to sleep every night if we ended up with that group of players, maybe a couple of years ago I’d have taken Sandro and Cavani but Skriniar has to be the most overrated centre back in football and looked awful against Chong so feck knows how he’d fare against Aguero or Mane or an elite attacker on a regular basis.
Yeah. Maybe a shift in policy is good. That list the poster above listed was a blast from the past. Th opposite of what we should do with regards to player infrastructure.
There's literally been nothing of interest in this saga for about 2-3 weeks now, can a saga even be a saga if nothing is actually happening?
I even forgot to wish you all a happy Sancho day today, which in my opinion is very telling.
This thread should have been locked a while back. I'm surprised it hasn't yet.
There was never any substance to the Vidal stuff but look at the state of that thread.
Why would it be locked?
There's a bunch of irrelevant discussion among the "Happy Sancho Day!" posts. We even had a page of discussions on an ITK Tweet, which never should have been discussed in the first place. Without any updates, we're just going in circles.
But two can play at that game though. You're just making our side sound much worse than it is by using hyperbole.
I could say we have a squad with 3 exciting and talented forwards and 2 potentially world class playmakers. We are going to win the title !
That's unrealistic though.
Can we make this thread tweet only?
Cousin-gate, Barbar-gate, that was about it. And a lot of hopefuls still saying Sancho or United haven't officially closed this deal so it's still on.
The Sancho Day stuff is just simple muppet fun. It’s the long-winded repetitive moaning about Fellaini, Woodward, the Glazers, etc. that is detrimental.
I have no issues with the Sancho Day posts. I'm just saying that, besides that, there's nothing else relevant.
Not coming, Dortmund no longer comfortable with sourcing replacement at this stage. We won't be signing other attacker with Greenwood and James as options on the right. Sancho a marquee signing but now unavailable.
We are in talks with Monaco for defender, but doesn't know name (Badiashile or Toure?).
Nothing about holding midfielder.
We are in talks with Monaco for defender, but doesn't know name (Badiashile or Toure?).
Nothing about holding midfielder.
Then leave the thread.
Brooks in and we’re ready for the new season I think.
Just look in the transfer tweets then?
Christ, if true what a very, very poor summer in which we haven't fully backed Ole.
Badiashile for big money would be one of the most pointless ever signings we've made, up there with Darmian, Schneiderlin and Schweinsteiger.
edit: what happened to the brief?
Ok great cheers, thanks for that
No reply to that part of my message. Hence disclaimer on what he's relayed. I'll be having a Google hangout with him and a few other pals this weekend so will try to get a read on what's up. I suspect he's telling me in good faith though, as straight laced as they come. It's more the folk he knows having him on that I'm worried of.
If you think I have a problem with the posts, then that's not the case. I'm just surprised that the thread has stayed open when, in the past, it'd get locked after extended periods of off-topic discussion.
Who are you talking about? Who’s relayed?Woodward?
I think it’s pretty much because we as a club haven’t briefed that we are no longer interested in the player.
Some posters post that we don’t need to brief the press but that would be very unusual for Woody, plus to leave any possibility of this rumbling on in the press without any intent from us to sign him is bad publicity, particularly when other clubs are signing big names.
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