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The only tier 1 source we have is Norwood. Everyone else knows jack s*it
Thats for announcements, I'm talking about club briefings. Also I am not even saying we will sign Sancho. Earlier in the window, we briefed we were confident we could do a deal and that we did not believe we had to stick to the deadline. Came out from the usual suspects Ducker, Stones etc
 

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Thats for announcements, I'm talking about club briefings. Also I am not even saying we will sign Sancho. Earlier in the window, we briefed we were confident we could do a deal and that we did not believe we had to stick to the deadline. Came out from the usual suspects Ducker, Stones etc
I know. I'm just saying until Norwood starts following someone on Twitter, then it's just rumors. Stones knows nothing. Cant stand his one pitch voice at the pressers asking the same questions over and over
 

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You know we've exhausted every bit of chat about this when people start reading Pilib De Brun's stuff
 

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Pilib de Breun has made that up ffs :lol:

he doesn't even show the actual E-mail or the account it's come from, what a con merchant.
 

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You know we've exhausted every bit of chat about this when people start reading Pilib De Brun's stuff
Haha, yup, it's a key element every summer transfer window.

Only thing missing is pages of debate about whether or not he should be considered a source
 

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Am I mad to still want Sancho over Messi? Messi would probably only last 2 years in the Prem and our team would probably have to change style to fit Messi in.
I look at it a different way. Messi would immediately make us arguably the best attack in the world, and put us right back in title contention and going deep into Europe. Yeah he would only be here for a couple years, but the experience that the numerous young players we have would gain from playing in those big time UCL matches and being in a title race would be invaluable imo. It would essentially put us back on the global map for contenders.

And people trying to compare signing fecking Messi to our past mistakes with big names a la Schweinstager, ADM, etc are just taking the piss.

Tactically, who gives a shit. You put him on the right and he essentially does the Juan Mata role except he's Messi and probably scores 40 goals and assists another 20 or so. People are really overthinking the whole thing.
 

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Why does he always state his opinion as fact like he's ITK or something? So annoying.

He misspelled installments too.

Pfft.
 

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I look at it a different way. Messi would immediately make us arguably the best attack in the world, and put us right back in title contention and going deep into Europe. Yeah he would only be here for a couple years, but the experience that the numerous young players we have would gain from playing in those big time UCL matches and being in a title race would be invaluable imo. It would essentially put us back on the global map for contenders.

And people trying to compare signing fecking Messi to our past mistakes with big names a la Schweinstager, ADM, etc are just taking the piss.

Tactically, who gives a shit. You put him on the right and he essentially does the Juan Mata role except he's Messi and probably scores 40 goals and assists another 20 or so. People are really overthinking the whole thing.
Even though Messi would improve our attack massively, sadly I still don’t think we’d be anywhere near a title challenge.
 

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He did, installment is the correct spelling, instalment is not.
Installment is how it is spelled in the US. In every other English speaking country on Earth, including the country Goldbridge is based, it is spelled with one L.
 

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Installment is how it is spelled in the US. In every other English speaking country on Earth, including the country Goldbridge is based, it is spelled with one L.
They spell it with two in Canada as well, but as you say every other English country spells it with one.
 

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We should go for both Sancho AND Messi. To everyone who say we cant afford it, it's time to spend the Ronaldo money. Break the bank. Etc.

I mean, look at this? We would be scoring goals for fun.


On a more serious note. I would also prefer Sancho to Messi, as weird as that sounds.
First of all I think Messi will remain in Barca this time around as well, but the fact that Sancho is 15 years younger is also key.

I'm still in the camp that thinks signing Sancho, even if it means signing ONLY Sancho, is the way to go.
Yes we must get Sancho if we possibly can.

Would be ace to get Messi though. Even if there’s persuasive argument that we shouldn’t - feck that shite. I mean, would we say no to Pele at 34?

If I had to choose I think I’d take Messi now (Sancho next year!). Messi. Holy hell.
 

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Can you guys stop posting shit from "ITK" on twitter, Mark Goldbridge, Philib de brun, indykalia and the rest of the annoying feckwitts out there?
Those of you who are having fun with that bunch of twats already have your own thread to creame at over absolutely nothing. Keep it out of here for gods sake.
 

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Even though Messi would improve our attack massively, sadly I still don’t think we’d be anywhere near a title challenge.
Looking at our points since Bruno came in, we were as good as anyone in the league. Add Messi to that, factor in Liverpool not having quite as ridiculous of a first half of a season, and yes I think we are right there fighting for the top spot. You’re severely underrating our team imo, especially if we added fking Messi to it.
 

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Looking at our points since Bruno came in, we were as good as anyone in the league. Add Messi to that, factor in Liverpool not having quite as ridiculous of a first half of a season, and yes I think we are right there fighting for the top spot. You’re severely underrating our team imo, especially if we added fking Messi to it.
In fairness, it's like me saying if i was super gorgeous, the ladies would love me :lol:
 

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Looking at our points since Bruno came in, we were as good as anyone in the league. Add Messi to that, factor in Liverpool not having quite as ridiculous of a first half of a season, and yes I think we are right there fighting for the top spot. You’re severely underrating our team imo, especially if we added fking Messi to it.
I absolutely agree in terms of our first eleven. Our best eleven with Messi in it would most definitely be able to challenge.
The problem is the drop in quality to the backup players is huge right now. Our depth is too average in order to offer a title challenge.
 

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In all reality no one knows if Jadon is moving to united, i hazard a guess not even the player right now, if Woodward genuinely believes he can sign Messi, he’s a bigger clown than most of us on here already believe him to be!

Messi will agitate for a move, if the Barcelona board resign he’ll stay, otherwise he will go to City in a long protracted transfer where deals will be done in the Middle East to appease all concerned , after all what are UEFA going to do, Nada that’s what!

So back on point, Woodward playing Roulette, he’s hedging his bets and waiting for the last week to sign Jadon at something silly like £79m down and £21m in add ons and stage payments where £90m is guaranteed by 2022. Dortmund will say no and we will scramble to get two players in the last week probably resigning Memphis Depay for £40m and Josh King for 20m, who started off in our academy saying we’ve brought back two more of our own add that to a Defensive midfielder like Partey or Idris Iguye and that’s our business down, as usual
We shoot for the stars and end up with debris from falling meteors

The shame of the whole fiasco, is Covid genuine gave the club and the manager a chance to strengthen the squad ;

We could have bought ;
E Cavani on a free
A Doucoure £30M and used to PL
M Skriniar £45m
A Sandro £30M
T Draxler £25m

No tell me that lot would improve our strength in depth and £100m bet spend but we will waste all window and then be told we got our targets !!!!
 

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In all reality no one knows if Jadon is moving to united, i hazard a guess not even the player right now, if Woodward genuinely believes he can sign Messi, he’s a bigger clown than most of us on here already believe him to be!

Messi will agitate for a move, if the Barcelona board resign he’ll stay, otherwise he will go to City in a long protracted transfer where deals will be done in the Middle East to appease all concerned , after all what are UEFA going to do, Nada that’s what!

So back on point, Woodward playing Roulette, he’s hedging his bets and waiting for the last week to sign Jadon at something silly like £79m down and £21m in add ons and stage payments where £90m is guaranteed by 2022. Dortmund will say no and we will scramble to get two players in the last week probably resigning Memphis Depay for £40m and Josh King for 20m, who started off in our academy saying we’ve brought back two more of our own add that to a Defensive midfielder like Partey or Idris Iguye and that’s our business down, as usual
We shoot for the stars and end up with debris from falling meteors


The shame of the whole fiasco, is Covid genuine gave the club and the manager a chance to strengthen the squad ;

We could have bought ;
E Cavani on a free
A Doucoure £30M and used to PL
M Skriniar £45m
A Sandro £30M
T Draxler £25m

No tell me that lot would improve our strength in depth and £100m bet spend but we will waste all window and then be told we got our targets !!!!
You're generating your frustration out of your own speculation. Why?
 
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