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Thinks the caf is 'wokeish'.
Dortmund should do the right thing and sell him to us. Clearly Favre doesn't like him. They shouldn't hold on to a player manager doesn't fancy. Get himMemphisLingard instead.
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Dortmund should do the right thing and sell him to us. Clearly Favre doesn't like him. They shouldn't hold on to a player manager doesn't fancy. Get himMemphisLingard instead.
And not just on. Based on his comments, 50 mil max. For lazy player, who doesn't play defence and who is tactically bad....we will even overpay him.This is not your regular criticism of a player, his own coach basically called him lazy in an interview. This is on.
I’m trying not to get too ahead of myself but I don’t understand why he would say anything questionable under the circumstances.I fancy him coming here after those quotes on him from his coach. It just sounds too bizarre to me. Let's see
Exactly. In times of such cash flow uncertainty, a massive outlaw of cash is out of the question.Plus for Woodward, with limited visibility on when match-day revenue stream will come back online. Tough to manage cashflow when there isn't much visibility.
I’m trying not to get too ahead of myself but I don’t understand why he would say anything questionable under the circumstances.
The problem is the finances show we can afford him. Shareholders have been taking large healthy dividends out every year. It’s the mindset of the owners treating the club like a business and not a football club which is what is holding us back.I really don't get how people are so infuriated we're not dropping 120m like it's nothing. You have to be able to afford the transfer in every scenario. Would any of you bet your mortgage/life savings that if Sancho comes we get top 4? No, because you can't afford to lose that. If we spend money we potentially can't afford, we're going to be in the shit. If we can't afford him, it is what it is.
Welcome back aboard the Sancho train, there's no seats left in first class, but please make yourselves comfortable.
Them damn imposters from the Herrera deal strike again!Welcome back aboard the Sancho train, there's no seats left in first class, but please make yourselves comfortable.
It referrers to his pressing, gegenpressing and backtracking, which he could stil learn a lot from the likes of Reus and the others. That is some area where he can improve a lot.
I’m trying not to get too ahead of myself but I don’t understand why he would say anything questionable under the circumstances.
Perhaps United is waiving the sell on clause for Zaha if we're struggling to find the funds but just I don't see Dortmund paying even 50m.
To be fair it was surprising when Juve spunked the Pogba money on Higuain.
Because as far as things go in Germany the "circumstances" ended a week ago.
You're just not getting with the program, are you?
I bet you haven't even picked out a hat for Sancho Day yet.
Tsk tsk.
Welcome back aboard the Sancho train, there's no seats left in first class, but please make yourselves comfortable.
The problem is the finances show we can afford him. Shareholders have been taking large healthy dividends out every year. It’s the mindset of the owners treating the club like a business and not a football club which is what is holding us back.
How and where does it show we can afford to blow 120m cash instead of instalments? How many OT matches did we lose out? At £5M per matchday loss plus we never laid off anyone. Each month during the lockdown it cost United £25M.
Cash isn't some eternal fountain even at United. There is no way we can plonk down £100m cash like the Macguire deal. That deal set us back to start with and now with the lack of visibility going forward, it would be irresponsible of Woodward as the CEO of a £650M entity to spend that much cash on one player. I can see the case of instalments to spread the risk out plus providing us some financial flexibility with the other signings.
But if Dortmund still insist on a one-time payment, I would walk away.
My best guess is that they will need some cash (with a £45M loss from the last financial year -- the year going forward wont be hunky-dory either) injection and the sale of Sancho is their best bet. They are just maximising the value.
This is over, move on muppets @SirAF @ChaddyP @Vault Dweller @Adnan
We retreat, recoup and we'll be back again.
Yes my exact thought too. They were praising him head to toe only a few days ago. Hopefully we can see something concrete by the end of the week. It's dragging but i'm willing to wait
The quicker we close the deal, the more we have to pay. It is a balance. Where the cut off point on the deal is, probably by early Sept because Dortmund will have to close the deal of the Sancho replacement.
Dortmund have never insisted on all of it upfront, we have been trying to play the system by adding unachievable addons we have a history of this under woodward.
We won’t explore it but Bale would be an interesting option. Such is the desperation of Madrid, could probably get him on loan with no obligation and them paying a large portion of his wages as well. Having said that with our medical team maybe not...Time to look for a high profile loan (Dembele, Perisic, Bale) to bridge the gap. Sancho isn't going anywhere else.
I don’t know but it appears that BVB are the ones who are dragging the deal, not us. Remember the reports of United being frustrated with the pace of discussions and Dortmund aren’t willing to communicate directly and insisted on using middle men agents? There is simply no cut off point if they are doing that, and the window doesn’t close until October 5th
I'm wondering what's unachievable?Maybe. But there is no way anyone of us will know the exact details of the various proposals to date. The magnitude of this seal and Dortmund's previous history of such deals will imply that both sides will be stubborn.
Ultimately it will be up to Ole to make some level of (performance) commitment to Woodward to get this deal across -- ie risk splurging most of our cash reserves on this deal but then maybe not get other transfer choices Ole had originally wanted.
Woodward was clever enough a few months back to have some revolving credit from some financial lending institution ready in case it may be required.
We’ll have a poor start to the season then panic and sign him for more being quoted now.
Welcome back aboard the Sancho train, there's no seats left in first class, but please make yourselves comfortable.
What has happened that muppets are retreating?The show must go on...
How and where does it show we can afford to blow 100m cash instead of instalments? How many OT matches did we lose out? At £5M per matchday loss plus we never laid off anyone. Each month during the lockdown supposedly cost United £25M. Each month.
Cash isn't some eternal fountain even at United. It has to be earned.
There is no way we can plonk down £100m cash like the Macguire deal. That deal set us back to start with and now with the lack of visibility going forward, it would be irresponsible of Woodward as the CEO of a £2B entity to spend that much cash on one player. I can see the case of instalments to spread the risk out plus providing us some financial flexibility with the other signings.
But if Dortmund still insist on a one-time payment, I would walk away.
My best guess is that they will need some cash (with a £45M loss from the last financial year -- the year going forward wont be hunky-dory either) injection and the sale of Sancho is their best bet. They are just maximising the value.
Maybe. But Europe’s press are all still watching and it would be silly to create more attention as it’s distracting to the player and their pre-season.Because as far as things go in Germany the "circumstances" ended a week ago.
Maybe. But Europe’s press are all still watching and it would be silly to create more attention as it’s distracting to the player and their pre-season.
I'm wondering what's unachievable?
Sancho can certainly reach Ballon D'Or winning heights.
5m if Sancho travels to space in the next 10 years?
Another 5m if he decides to quit football and join the circus as a clown wearing a honking red nose.