Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now

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Germany announcing that they won't allow fans back to thy stadium in September, which was initially planned. Maybe a further hit to Dortmund financials and could force them to reconsider keeping Sancho.

You also have to take into account what was posted before in here, i think it was Sphaero, that Dortmund is one of the most healthiest clubs in the country. They got still over 300 Million left on their bank account, and they would get a lot of credits easily. Keeping Sancho (cause you don't get the amount you want) in these times makes sense cause of 2 things: Having him in the squad is better than not having him, especially if your top prospects aren't avaible yet (or too expensive), furthermore, as Dortmund you can wait if Reyna steps up and is ready to be directly his successor next season.
The second thing is that you can wait if next season the market is better and you still get 100m till 120m. You got 3 years more of contract, so you are not in a hurry.
And another thing, if at some point fans are allowed again, Dortmund are in a great position, cause they got the largest stadium in the country, so that even with distance they can have the highest audience numbers of all clubs in germany.
Saying he has to learn to not stop running after 10 minutes is savage :lol:
That was already mentioned in here, too. He still has to learn a lot. And maybe in this constelation it is indeed better for him personaly and in his development to play for Dortmund where he knows the team and the system, where he can learn a lot, instead of being the holy grail which has to save United, if you know what i mean. By saying "saving United" i also mean the context: The squad of United needs a lot of screws and adjustments to be a well functioning contender for the best. I don't wonder why him and his family don't are keen on signing for United at this moment. Some fans in here got the same opinion: Develop the squad, erase the flaws, work on other parts, there is enough to do. And then, if this is done, as the icing on the cake you can sign a Sancho. Makes more sense in my eyes.
 
To illustrate the context around Favre:


“He has played really, really well in the first half of the season and also at the beginning of the second half of the season, but sometimes he has some highs and lows.

“He has a lot to learn, he has a lot of potential and that is good for us. He has talent, but there is no talent without hard work. Talent is 10 per cent, hard work is 90 per cent.”

And it's a manager that subbed him off after 36 minutes because he wasn't happy with what he was seeing against Bayern.

"He was not injured, he trained yesterday. I had to go on what I was seeing and, to be honest, it was not good enough."

When Favre is your manager, you need to have a thick skin, the way he handled Balotelli was also quite amusing because he didn't pamper him at all.
 
Thats how you negotiate when buying a house? Everyone world on a budget. The more we spend on Sancho, the less we have for others.
So you blow everything on the price of the house, then you may have nothing left for furniture, paint or bathrooms.
fun fact: real estate prices are increasing in spite of covid, at least here in Germany.
 
I'm actually surprised people haven't picked up on all of Favre's answers on Sancho:



"Yes Sancho is very good, but he also has to keep on his mind that he still has a lot to learn: chest control, layoffs with his head, total defending and to not stop running after 10 minutes." Clearly #SanchON.

Clearly pushing for Sancho to hand in a request so they keep the loyalty bonus! It's so on! :devil:
 
How are you reading those quotes, @do.ob? Do you believe it is narrative-peddling from Favre, or do you simply believe he is critically assessing his player from a tactical perspective? You obviously have more insight due to the context, tone, etc. We are simply reading translations here.
 
I'm actually surprised people haven't picked up on all of Favre's answers on Sancho:



"Yes Sancho is very good, but he also has to keep on his mind that he still has a lot to learn: chest control, layoffs with his head, total defending and to not stop running after 10 minutes." Clearly #SanchON.

:lol: Odd thing to publicly say about your player. Feels like something grumpy Mourinho would say.
 
How are you reading those quotes, @do.ob? Do you believe it is narrative-peddling from Favre, or do you simply believe he is critically assessing his player from a tactical perspective? You obviously have more insight due to the context, tone, etc. We are simply reading translations here.
As if any Dortmund fan would ever see it that way.

Of course it's not narrative peddling though. Managers leave all that rubbish to their clown like CEO/DoF figures.
 
:lol: Odd thing to publicly say about your player. Feels like something grumpy Mourinho would say.

Yup. But apparently it's not a new thing for BVB and Sancho or so i was told. I just thought it's peculiar to say such a negative assessment about the player in public. Does he not run anymore after 10 minutes? Can any Dortmund fan tell us?
 
As if any Dortmund fan would ever see it that way.

Of course it's not narrative peddling though. Managers leave all that rubbish to their clown like CEO/DoF figures.
Tbf, I’ve not fully kept to the saga as the pages move so quickly, but @do.ob has been pretty rational with his posts. Unlike certain other Bundesliga fans I’ve seen post... edit: see guy directly below me.
 
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How are you reading those quotes, @do.ob? Do you believe it is narrative-peddling from Favre, or do you simply believe he is critically assessing his player from a tactical perspective? You obviously have more insight due to the context, tone, etc. We are simply reading translations here.
It is clearly a direct message to United fans all over the world.
 
But it's the exact same for United, I feel we simply just don't have the money to do a deal on the right terms that suit both parties.
Yes but I mean in the sense that Dortmund may accommodate a better structure to the payments (from United's perspective.)
 
How are you reading those quotes, @do.ob? Do you believe it is narrative-peddling from Favre, or do you simply believe he is critically assessing his player from a tactical perspective? You obviously have more insight due to the context, tone, etc. We are simply reading translations here.

I think part of that answer is simply a compulsion to correct a reporter's question that only looks at the attacking side of things. Favre does that sometimes.

If there is a strategical dimension to then it's probably that it's not so easy for Dortmund to steer lazy attackers into the right direction. They had similar issues with Aubameyang and Dembele. These guys know full well, that they are untouchable to a certain degree, because of their attacking output and because Dortmund can't afford to sign equally good alternatives to threaten their spots. Involving the media to a certain degree might be an attempt to create gentle pressure from outside to motivate certain players to work harder.
 
I think part of that answer is simply a compulsion to correct a reporter's question that only looks at the attacking side of things. Favre does that sometimes.

If there is a strategical dimension to then it's probably that it's not so easy for Dortmund to steer lazy attackers into the right direction. They had similar issues with Aubameyang and Dembele. These guys know full well, that they are untouchable to a certain degree, because of their attacking output and because Dortmund can't afford to sign equally good alternatives to threaten their spots. Involving the media to a certain degree might be an attempt to create gentle pressure from outside to motivate certain players to work harder.

So this is similar to Aubameyang and Dembele? Interesting :smirk:
 
Does he not run anymore after 10 minutes? Can any Dortmund fan tell us?
It referrers to his pressing, gegenpressing and backtracking, which he could stil learn a lot from the likes of Reus and the others. That is some area where he can improve a lot.
 
It referrers to his pressing, gegenpressing and backtracking, which he could stil learn a lot from the likes of Reus and the others. That is some area where he can improve a lot.
No matter a players quality, if you don't press in the modern game, you leave your team way short.
That can be a deal breaker for me if am in charge of building a team.
 
It referrers to his pressing, gegenpressing and backtracking, which he could stil learn a lot from the likes of Reus and the others. That is some area where he can improve a lot.
That'll happen when he joins a better team. Should see it after we sign him.
 
To illustrate the context around Favre:




And it's a manager that subbed him off after 36 minutes because he wasn't happy with what he was seeing against Bayern.



When Favre is your manager, you need to have a thick skin, the way he handled Balotelli was also quite amusing because he didn't pamper him at all.


It could be my inner muppet talking here, I can't say for sure, but there is definitely something going on here.

I mean, subbing off Sancho after 27 minutes, and then excluding him from the squad entirely is kinda like embracing Trump in a loving hug and telling him he's doing an outstanding job. You just don't do it.

Sancho is coming to United, I feel it in my feels :drool:
 
To illustrate the context around Favre:




And it's a manager that subbed him off after 36 minutes because he wasn't happy with what he was seeing against Bayern.



When Favre is your manager, you need to have a thick skin, the way he handled Balotelli was also quite amusing because he didn't pamper him at all.

Dortmund should do the right thing and sell him to us. Clearly Favre doesn't like him. They shouldn't hold on to a player manager doesn't fancy. Get him Memphis instead.
 
It could be my inner muppet talking here, I can't say for sure, but there is definitely something going on here.

I mean, subbing off Sancho after 27 minutes, and then excluding him from the squad entirely is kinda like embracing Trump in a loving hug and telling him he's doing an outstanding job. You just don't do it.

Sancho is coming to United, I feel it in my feels :drool:
It was in 2019... cause he didn't play well. This was going on.
 
With Barca having a clear out maybe we should try and sign a few of there players, umtitti, Dembele and maybe Vidal/rakitic, would solve some of our problems.
 
Its about time we paid the money the silver lining of the Europa League is that now Ole will pilush for transfers and has proof they are needed especially on the right side it will drag as usual be im sure he will be here eventually.
 
The white smoke was clearly Sancho's unveiling. The video is probably in post production and might have the budget of a major hollywood movie. Editing can easily take 3+ months.
 
fun fact: real estate prices are increasing in spite of covid, at least here in Germany.

Its the case in quite a few countries -- people with stable jobs and millionaires/billionaires with lots of free cash are buying up properties. As they say, the rich get richer..
 
This is why I shared <3



I sincerely doubt they were expecting to fill their stadiums. At the presser Watzke said that they fully accept the politician's decision and that he thinks/hopes that allowing around 10% capacity will be possible soon-ish. Club's would sure love that money, but as Westfalians tend to say: it won't make the cabbage fat.

Are the players well paid? If so, how will that be fulfilled? IOUs?
 
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