Yeh i was referring to the period before we bought him tbf.
Jadon Sancho - Chelsea (loan) watch
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Yeh i was referring to the period before we bought him tbf.
Any resident Chelsea fans here? What do you think of Sancho’s season so far?
He had an assist
Edit - So it was an own goal so he doesnt get an assist. Alright, so he set up Chelsea's goal
Great business that
Mediocre season so far but worth the financial outlay without a doubt. Today in fairness he wasn't helped by Nkunku constantly dropping into the same areas and constantly disrupting the buildup structure.
In terms of the broader outlook, I'd say a lot depends on the contract terms he signs from next year. If he's on a reasonable incentive-driven wage as is the case with everyone who's signed a contract at Chelsea in the last two years, I remain happy to have him as an option (especially against lower block teams).
Frankly I think a lot of the guff he's getting in this thread is down to Chelsea's broader dysfunction as opposed to anything he's doing on his own specifically.
Exactly there is something that went wrong and it wasn't that he was overhyped or anything to do with the Bundesliga.
He went back to Dortmund and was crap so clearly not the league. He was genuinely incredible during his first spell so he clearly has great talent.
Assist? I thought Palmer did a cross/shot? You counting a Sancho pass into Palmer?
jesus christ. he was on the pitch when chelsea scored. what other evidence do you want that we fecked up by getting rid of him?
Also when they lost !! Haha
Was he on the pitch though? I thought that was just a reflection of him bouncing off a weather satellite
Sounds familiar. The increasingly tiny minority of United fans who seemed to think he could still cut it at this level used to make the same argument.
He is exactly who we knew he was another collosal waste of time and money
He played the pass out to Palmer who found the goalkeeper who scored the own goal. The only goal Chelsea managed
The inevitability of him being shite for Chelsea is the only redeeming factor of this season. He's objectively a bad footballer without the attributes to cut it in the PL.
It's beause he doesn't really do much at all so doesnt get blamed for the stuff being done wrong. He's just an extra in a good team and ditto in a bad one.
Some people talk about him as if being very talented and not having a cutting edge is unique to him. Loads of players are like that. Arsene Wenger used to collect them in his later years.
I can see what Chelsea fans are saying in that he's probably a useful option or a good squad player for what they paid, but does Sancho see himself as a squad player? It's one thing that he's not acting up now while he is still just happy to be the fu' out of United, but I'm curious how his attitude and professionalism hold up in the next few years if he starts to find himself on the bench a lot. It could still end up being a problematic signing for Chelsea in that event, but then again perhaps he is over any perceived mentality/attitude problems and he becomes a productive squad player, who knows? I do think it's not as simple as the "he's not that expensive, so it's all good" kinda logic, though
c.5 ) He came here at the height of the players' power and decided that he can take a shitton of cash without doing anything. Sounds familiar ?
So something happened while he was at United that made him lose his almost all of his ability to impact football matches, seemingly irreparably? I'm not doubting that, and broadly speaking that is apparently what has happened, but what and how? It's just so strange.
I believe there is some kind of bad influence on him in England. I think that because the few news about behavioural issues at Dortmund all happened just after he was in England. Whoever or whatever it is, it's obvious that this can be a bigger issue in Manchester than in Dortmund. And the fact that he went on individual training in the Netherlands also might support this idea.
Sancho assist….
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Bundesliga suited him
I won't lie, I didn't watch his games but I was surprised when I watched his highlights.
The amount of times he was found to be in open spaces due to bundesliga teams high defensive line would then turn to goals because of Sanchos good passing ability.
Sancho's passing usually would turn to a tap in type of goal because he would beat the high line and set up his striker.
Nothing was that great about him and I was personally shocked by the hype but gave in because he was a British lad doing well abroad.
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I guess what I'm getting at is that the behavioral issues are one thing, his seeming inability to put in consistently good performances is another. Unless we think the two are directly linked? Is he not playing well because he's not training well, for example? But if he isn't training well, he surely wouldn't be getting picked. So it's just hard to pinpoint the chicken or the egg in his situation.
Normally when there is such a drastic fall in a player's ability, there's an injury involved. Mental health could be part of the equation, and if it is then are his mental health issues linked with being in the UK, close to the bad influences you're referring to? And sorry I keep responding to your posts, but I'm more just thinking aloud, it's such a strange case to me.
I do wonder if it's as simple as this. He got the biggest contract he's ever going to get, he started a particularly engrossing FIFA save and got lost along the way... but he's still good at football, n'he? Why doesn't he look like one of the best players on the pitch at least occasionally? I should probably stop overthinking this one, perhaps!
Don't worry, I do the same here and don't really know anything for sure. It just is a strange case.
He got this contract when he was really young, he might as well have believed he's the real shit now and doesn't have to put the effort any longer. That goes for matches and training. It's a slippery slope, when you don't have somebody to keep you grounded. And let's not forget, footballers mature a bit later than average, mentally wise.
That being said, he started very timidly with us, so I can't say that his level has really dropped like, for example, Rashfords. Sancho was consistently mediocre, with some occasional sparks here and there.
This useless player can play crap for Chelsea and I couldn't care less since he is a guaranteed sale. Antony and Rashford on the other hand, I hope will do well and be able to persuade buyers to cough up for them. This will help United's rebuild.
I don't think he ever had a really good game for Utd.
He had some sporadic really good moments, a few nice goals and assists but I don't think he ever put in a really good performance.
He was a disaster of a signing. Getting his wages off the books and £25m from Chelsea in the summer is great business for us.
He had some sporadic really good moments, a few nice goals and assists but I don't think he ever put in a really good performance.
He was a disaster of a signing. Getting his wages off the books and £25m from Chelsea in the summer is great business for us.
Classic football tribalism denial is all it is.
MAH Live nails it on his fan channel with his Sancho impersonation.
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Sancho is a good player on his day. Nothing great, and his days are rare.
Good luck getting him down to a shread salary. Personally if Chelsea weren't obligated I don't think they'd be in any rush to make him permanent cme the end of the season.
MAH Live nails it on his fan channel with his Sancho impersonation.
I can't post media...Sancho is a good player on his day. Nothing great, and his days are rare.
Good luck getting him down to a shread salary. Personally if Chelsea weren't obligated I don't think they'd be in any rush to make him permanent cme the end of the season.
Whoop whoop. I remember a Chelsea goal when he first moved there, there was a lot of excitement over a Sancho assist, sky sports were raving he’d found his love of the game again, he just gave a simple pass on half way line and the scorer did everything else.
Anyway, nothing against him, but average player now.
This was a good deal for us. He’s not got the intensity or pace to be a top player in the Premier League.
it’s a good deal in a sense but a really rubbish one in the bigger picture . But I’m glad he’s going to be off our books what an absolute car crash of a signing .
The Happy Sancho days during his transfer saga was absolutely memorable. Pity it turned out like that for us
Chelsea will somehow make a profit on him as always.
Fortunately, there's no chance Chelsea finish lower than 12th. So as far as i'm concerned, he's gone.