It’s funny how many tried to convince us that he was the answer to our right wing
Jadon Sancho - Chelsea (loan) watch
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Hindsight is a wonderful thing
He was top prospect and looked fantastic at young age (in Bundesliga and not PL, of course). I was all for it but it turned out a terrible signing. And imagine if we signed him for 100+ million in 2020? We refused and then got him for 75m in 2021. So it could've been worse.
It cannot be understated how good Sancho was for Dortmund. This isn't a case of picking a dud, just a transfer not working out or him being the wrong player for what we needed. His potential was insane
I remember writing on the caf that Sancho and Hudson-Odoi were the two wingers that every top team in Europe should be going for! Turns out their both OKish.
The signs were there that he was never going to be top tier player but he became an obsession for us.
Unfortunately we didn’t do the background checks we used to do in Fergies days. No way he would of signed him.
You allude to his attitude? Outside of that, there were no signs of that at all, and young players being stupid isn't always a showstopper for them
Even after four years it takes exactly one minute for a card carrying member of the BDL to leap into action when anybody suggests that a player who did well in the Bundesliga might not actually be that good.
Yes, my posting history is famous for defending the Bundesliga and German football at any given opportunityEven after four years it takes exactly one minute for a card carrying member of the BDL to leap into action when anybody suggests that a player who did well in the Bundesliga might not actually be that good.
Or, the level of week to week league football is lower paced and easier for players like him to shine.
Or both of course could be true
Very likely, absolutely
Definitely both. Sure the PL is on a higher level on average, but it's not that different that it would explain Sancho looking so much worse there. He genuinely became much worse after his transfer to United.
I remember at the time reading threads on experts on here about how poor the other leagues were. Signs were there that the relative strength of the premier league was way ahead of other leagues.
I remember the same "experts" predicting that Mane would destroy the BL (he turned out only breaking records in being offside) and Haaland failing in the PL just like Sancho did (he never scored as many goals in Germany as he did in England).
So be careful... Sure there are differences between the leagues, but individual development still matters more when moving between BL and PL.
He's shit, Dan James was miles better.
He’s such a bland, inoffensive player. He doesn’t take risks, he won’t take initiative. If the team as a whole isn’t playing well, you can almost guarantee Sancho won’t do anything.
It’s beyond me how this is the same guy who got a 15+ goal and 15+ assist domestic season once.
It’s beyond me how this is the same guy who got a 15+ goal and 15+ assist domestic season once.
His first few assists for Chelsea was just a simple pass. Can literally get an assist of the ball bouncing of you. As for his goals, a lot easier in Germany as they play a lot more open football.
That Darren dude was trying to tell me he was doing well once he left us.
"Made it to the champs league final"
"A regular for Chelsea"
"Made it to the champs league final"
"A regular for Chelsea"
The veracity of assists as a creative metric has been an age old debate, but that’s not what I was getting at — 15+ goals and 15+ assists in one domestic season in Europe’s top 5 leagues is something normally reserved for the very best players. Likewise, the Bundesliga league strength quality can be debated, but if it was that easy more players would be doing it.
I can only recall Messi (about 4 times), and Suarez, Hazard, Henry, and Ronaldo doing it. Salah will probably do it this season.
It’s strange how the rest of Sancho’s career has since unfolded.
Ribery also did it and probably is the best comparison as he played in the same league in the same position.
1. Ill suited to rough PL footie. Not fast, not physicall.
2. The SKY, when Jadon retires at around 28-29 years of age, loaded, will need a massive feckin chair to acomodate him. When he gets his niggles, or infections, he usually puts on about 5kg in a space of two weeks not training, just playing FIFA ordering 3 kebabs a day. Sancho will have 100kg by the time he´s 30 years old and I put my fortune on it.
3. Marescas assitents personally waking him up for morning sessions. He will never change.
4. Would be decent for a Boavista in Portugeese division but they cant afford him.
5. Too much money too early, smoking feckin balloons at OT carpark right after the training session, its Woodward and co giving a young lad the earth so now he has "nothing to prove" anymore. What a waste of a decent, technically gifted, well reading of attack moves player.
Never did. He never scored more than 12 league goals in one season.
Except they can offer him like 1p a week, tell him they won’t play him so that he rejects them and goes back to United
Sorry, I missed that you meant league only. So you are right about this
Are the Chelsea supporters happy with him? Did he lower his wages at Chelsea?
It was reported that he took a pay cut to permanently join Chelsea, in line with their wage structure.
He is one the biggest waste I have ever seen. It barely makes any sense.
He seems to really lack the top end pace and acceleration needed to shine in the premier league.
We've gone to shite Lavia injury. Can't fit Nkunku in the team.
Sancho not been amazing but needs be judged by how dysfunctional our private equity created squad is...
Is his contract signed already. I don’t think him rejecting a contract is possible. Could be wrong though.
That's a fair point and might be the case if he showed anything more than the usual mediocrity he showed at United.
I've not watched a huge amount of Chelsea games but has he shown anywhere near his Dortmund form, even in short periods of a game.
I can't remember him putting in even a consistently good half of football for United.
It's an obligation to buy if they met a very easy condition of finishing above 14th so you'd have to expect that he contract/wages are all done and dusted. I doubt there's room for negotiation on either side.
It feels so good to get some of Mounts money back. They fleeced us with that deal and sold us a mediocre never fit player double the money.
Generational talent so I heard
In fairness to CHO the Achilles tear he picked up was horrendous luck and has hampered him physically quite a bit. Same thing happened to RLC sadly.
Yes, bur De Bruyne and Bruno get some of them too. They arent discounted when we talk about how many assists they get. They get more of those than Sancho does
“Handy in a 5 a side” player
Not comparable, Bruno and De Brunye overall offer more than just them assists only. Sancho is a winger who should be doing more than attacking mids.
The signs were there for Sancho, most teams rejecting Dortmund’s request. He’s not a good fit for the PL, doesn’t have the physicality.
Could have adapted his game like Silva but doesn’t have the discipline to get to that level.