croadyman
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He’ll be involved against Forrest
Don't see that happening now
He’ll be involved against Forrest
Last game was Chelsea when he was hooked just after half time after over hitting an easy pass down the line out of play. He was poor that game and looked visibly annoyed with himself during it. I think he was on the bench for the next few games before then disappearing from the squad altogether.Think his last game was v Tottenham in 2 nil win? Was decent too
Just hoping he uses a goal celebration to let us know what the issue was…point to the head for mental, point to his tummy for weight, point to his heart for fitness, point to his balls for cojones.
Last game was Chelsea when he was hooked just after half time after over hitting an easy pass down the line out of play. He was poor that game and looked visibly annoyed with himself during it. I think he was on the bench for the next few games before then disappearing from the squad altogether.
When was that? How many months ago?
Will he come back because starting to wonder
Just checked. It was v chelsea 2 days after spurs. 22nd october it was, his last appearance for united. 98 days since then and counting. This is terrible whichever you look at it.Think his last game was v Tottenham in 2 nil win? Was decent too
October 22
The implication was always that there's a mental element to it.Bad enough to be sent away to train on your own rather than train with the group since the world Cup started? He wasn't even in the world Cup, could've trained with the group for 2 full months by now.
22nd October - so over 3 months ago. Two weeks team training after being out that long isn’t really that much is it? Last thing you want to do is throw him back in if he’s not ready if this is all about building back his confidence.When was that? How many months ago?
Are you seriously trying to claim 2 weeks of training isn’t enough to even be on the bench at home to Reading in the FA Cup?22nd October - so over 3 months ago. Two weeks team training after being out that long isn’t really that much is it? Last thing you want to do is throw him back in if he’s not ready if this is all about building back his confidence.
22nd October - so over 3 months ago. Two weeks team training after being out that long isn’t really that much is it? Last thing you want to do is throw him back in if he’s not ready if this is all about building back his confidence.
I'm just of the mindset that I'd be surprised if we see him playing any significant amount of time before April. Maybe on the bench as unused sub by March. Some stoppage time subs in March. Maybe 15-20 minutes by April.
This place sometimesHe’s finished, I think he’ll be around as his contracts too big to move on but once it’s up he’ll be out, just another one in a long line of expensive flops since Fergies retirement. Weak mentality, poor physical conditioning and no drive, doesn’t fit where the club is headed.
He’s finished, I think he’ll be around as his contracts too big to move on but once it’s up he’ll be out, just another one in a long line of expensive flops since Fergies retirement. Weak mentality, poor physical conditioning and no drive, doesn’t fit where the club is headed.
Lmaotbh you are finished, just another internet bully.He’s finished, I think he’ll be around as his contracts too big to move on but once it’s up he’ll be out, just another one in a long line of expensive flops since Fergies retirement. Weak mentality, poor physical conditioning and no drive, doesn’t fit where the club is headed.
ding ding ding we have a winner
If we had properly scouted Sancho I think we would have concluded that he wasn't physically suited to this league, just too slow and weak. Another case of a player being snapped up because of their reputation and stats rather what they actually bring to the table. He racked up a bunch of assists at Dortmund just by making simple passes to Haaland who is a goal-scoring freak of nature.
This was literally the perfect game to play him in. Even just to bring on for a cameo so he gets some confidence playing competitive football again.
Again, it’s pretty much anyone’s guess now if he is in the squad for the Forest game on Wednesday night.
That’s a load of shit. He was class with and without Haaland.If we had properly scouted Sancho I think we would have concluded that he wasn't physically suited to this league, just too slow and weak. Another case of a player being snapped up because of their reputation and stats rather what they actually bring to the table. He racked up a bunch of assists at Dortmund just by making simple passes to Haaland who is a goal-scoring freak of nature.
He’s finished, I think he’ll be around as his contracts too big to move on but once it’s up he’ll be out, just another one in a long line of expensive flops since Fergies retirement. Weak mentality, poor physical conditioning and no drive, doesn’t fit where the club is headed.
We haven't even heard from ETH about it since Wednesday evening. For all we know, Forest is the game he'd due to return in, or maybe even later. ETH has been vague about when he's returning the entire time but all we know is he's closer.It’s not the perfect game if he isn’t ready. He’s been out this long and they obviously have a plan and strategy in place (which they’re not going to tell anyone on the outside about). He will play when the plan is executed and he is fully ready. That’s how ETH works, he is planned, controlled and absolutely meticulous. No point rushing him back when they’ve come this far and he isn’t 100% there yet.
It’s not but wasn’t he supposed to be working on his fitness in Holland? It’s not like he’s been on the beach. Although maybe that would have been better for him? Those photos of him training on his own in shitty weather in Holland looked grim. Feck knows. It’s all very weird.
Such a weird situation...to the point that I'm starting to come round to the conspiracy theories actually being more probable at this point than the official line.
I was listening to Gary O'Connor - former Birmingham (and many others) - on a podcast last week and he was talking about being banned by the FA for recreational drugs. Can't remember the exact time periods of his bans, but he received one ban from all club facilities/team activities then another from playing. It was something like 2 months away from the club, 3 months from playing.
The whole time Birmingham and Alex McLeish covered it up by telling people he was injured, although O'Connor said all the Birmingham journalists knew the truth but also knew they'd lose access to the club if they reported it. It only came out a couple of years later when the TV show Dispatches got access to leaked FA documents showing O'Connor's ban along with lots of other players who were also 'injured' while serving bans.
There's obviously not much in the way of concrete info about how the FA handle these cases, but there's a few articles:
From 2011: FA defends secret bans for players failing drugs tests
And a more recent 2017 article.
Daryl Murphy ban in 2018. His club also said he was injured. Club journalists knew for a year but didn't report it. Murphy announced it himself.
The fact that Sancho was in the starting line up one week then the next he's suddenly training at an amateur side in Holland for 6 weeks and desn't even join up for our warm weather training during the World Cup is just...there's not really any other logical reason. The club being so vague about the whole thing, and even moreso journalists not really seeking any clarity adds to it.
It's obviously not just bad luck. It's a mixture of poor scouting and a lack of a consistent system for players to fit in to. When we first bought sancho it was clear ole didn't know what to do with him. However, that doesn't explain what's happening with sancho nowIt's a bit ridiculous isn't it. Why have so many of our signings failed so spectacularly over the last decade? Can't simply be bad luck. There always seems to be problems with so many of the players that join this club
He’s finished, I think he’ll be around as his contracts too big to move on but once it’s up he’ll be out, just another one in a long line of expensive flops since Fergies retirement. Weak mentality, poor physical conditioning and no drive, doesn’t fit where the club is headed.
To be honest I'm at the point where I think it's best for all parties to sell him back to Dortmund. We could easily recoup 40m if not more, he is young and has shown a great level there.
He's on obscene wages, one of our top earners along with de Gea, and even best case scenario for him is being competition with Rashford and Antony. Ten Hag will always prefer the left footed RW, and Rashford is so key with his pace and directness... Sell him and fund a move for Osimhen or whoever. Roll with Rashford/Garnacho at left wing, Antony/Pellistri on the right, and Bruno/Amad as the 10's. That's plenty of depth and we are lucky we have 3 elite young attackers in Garnacho, Pellistri and Amad.
Sancho was great at Leeds last season so maybe ten Hag is saving him for that game.