Yep, they act like they made him
It was obvious he’d tear it up there. He was always destined to be a star. Meanwhile their average players were stat padded in that league and made to look world class.
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It was obvious he’d tear it up there. He was always destined to be a star. Meanwhile their average players were stat padded in that league and made to look world class.
I'm starting to feel a bit worried about Sancho. You can see he's a decent technical footballer when he gets the ball to feet but he doesn't do enough for a wide player - he doesn't have the intensity when pressing, he doesn't really take on or commit defenders and he's not blistering quick. It doesn't help that the numbers he was posting in Germany have completely dried up either.
I wonder whether we should try tweaking it so Rashford plays wide and Sancho is moved into a more central role.
I wonder whether we should try tweaking it so Rashford plays wide and Sancho is moved into a more central role.
He is a very technical footballer and his decision making was also fantastic at Dortmund. That's also deserted him. I often wonder if it's a mentality problem at the moment that ETH can still remedy.
It's already been pointed out this is nonsense. Sancho looked great for Dortmund for 18 months before Haaland arrived.
Kagawa was miles better, purely for his desire; something Sancho is seemingly bereft of.
Oleboiii was right
For someone with a reputation as a "pass & move" type player, his movement is really really bad. He never seems to find pockets of space where he can threaten, never tries to break the lines.
Also his stamina/conditioning is just shocking for a professional footballer of his age.
Also his stamina/conditioning is just shocking for a professional footballer of his age.
I'm starting to think that Ten Hag wanted Gakpo in not just to play as a CF...
has he regressed physically since Dortmund or is the PL really that much more difficult?
looks like a school-kid playing his first mens game at times
my biggest hope is that he's out of shape and/or low on confidence, as these things can be fixed more easily than the obvious (he's just a bit shite)
looks like a school-kid playing his first mens game at times
my biggest hope is that he's out of shape and/or low on confidence, as these things can be fixed more easily than the obvious (he's just a bit shite)
Pressure and ridiculously high wages seem to do this to a player. Just don't understand how a 20 year old should be on 300+ wages even though he was bought for millions on end, Ralf was right on that issue that we need hungry young players. Sancho looks very well fed.
Far too passive
https://www.spotrac.com/epl/manchester-united-fc/payroll/
Noone will touch him with a barge pole. We are stuck and best hope he blossoms again.
Noone will touch him with a barge pole. We are stuck and best hope he blossoms again.
I just meant it was his standard 5/10 or slightly less performance
I cannot record a single game where he terrorised the opposition. He has had games where he scored or got an assist and that's it
Type in Sancho 2019 and see his breakthrough season. Different player to what we are seeing now.
Yeah, I can't think of too many wingers who've been better than him at Dortmund in terms of getting the ball to other attackers' feet. Seemed like a solid bet to be Ribery 2.0 but now it feels like say Willian 2.0, who had some very good season at Chelsea aged 25-27, but wasn't quite a star. Though Sancho is only 22 and because of his fee and success isn't looked at like a normal 22 year old.
Havertz is similar. I watched him play as a false 9 at Leverkusen and thought he was fantastic. On the other hand, De Bruyne at Wolfsburg looked like the best decision maker and all around #10 on the counter attack in the world, and he's stayed in that form his whole career since.
Giving a 33 year old Azpiluceta no problems whatsoever is really disappointing. Elanga immediately gave him more trouble by running at him with pace, which fair play, he's 33, only a year younger than the late Seamus Coleman.
Sancho fades a lot when he gets tired but he still needs to improve. Garnacho will honestly soon take his place if he doesn’t. The kid just needs to develop a bit more physically. Sancho needs some work in the gymn.
I have to say though… Ole’s recruitment was truly diabolical. Sancho is not a bad player for the right price and money…. not the salary we gave him.
I have to say though… Ole’s recruitment was truly diabolical. Sancho is not a bad player for the right price and money…. not the salary we gave him.
You can see in the video he's taking risks close to players, taking on 2-3 players and always ready to run forwards after a move. He doesn't solely rely on triangle passing like some have pushed on here far from it. There's a lot of individual strength and drive shown that we're just not seeing.
Could be down to him making it with his huge wage but I don't buy that. He went off to Germany at a young age, that shows a lot of courage and determination. He had some bad moments in Dortmund getting subbed at half time and being late for training which they stopped getting worse quickly.
United/ETH can turn this player around now. I think it will be harder as he's been in one long slump for a year. I believe he has a couple of mental issues one being motivational and the other being one of fear, he's always playing it safe, a total 180 from his time at Dortmund. He was played in very well a couple of times against Chelsea but he stayed in his safe position.
Could be down to him making it with his huge wage but I don't buy that. He went off to Germany at a young age, that shows a lot of courage and determination. He had some bad moments in Dortmund getting subbed at half time and being late for training which they stopped getting worse quickly.
United/ETH can turn this player around now. I think it will be harder as he's been in one long slump for a year. I believe he has a couple of mental issues one being motivational and the other being one of fear, he's always playing it safe, a total 180 from his time at Dortmund. He was played in very well a couple of times against Chelsea but he stayed in his safe position.
Maguire, Sancho, AWB, Donny. Feck me.
Sancho can definitely still turn it around though.
So many players have improved under Ten Hag - the fact that this guy is the same is very worrying because he should be getting better.
Just had a one good moment there really so let's not overreact. If anything Elanga is way more random with his dribbles and Sancho more in control. This game he wasn't successful and usually the success rate of the take-ons is general low so might be different in the next game.
Also Sancho is more of a advanced playmaker waiting for runs, with good feet but Elanga more of a direct player, making runs in behind. Think Sancho canretain possession much better and create without losing the ball, compared to Elanga.
His confidence is low now and didn't have a good game but let's not forget the start to the season and his form back then and that only now we seem to start play football as a unit. He will get better for sure.
He looks mentally and physically defeated. Can't even do the basics anymore. In the Bundesliga, he was able to dribble past defenders and deliver crosses and passes into the box. Now all he does is pass the ball back. Antony is not great either, but Sancho is just downright awful.
Idiotic that we gave him that amount of money.
I wasn't saying Elanga should start, just noting that he gave Azpilicueta something to worry about unlike Sancho. Obviously Sancho is the better footballer.
Antony is leagues ahead of him at the moment, but can’t help but feel he’ll come good
You make a good point. I did wonder if it was a common theme amongst teams in Germany to play high lines. Because whenever I used to see goals or attacks with Haaland and Sancho linking up, it was as if most goals were with the opposition defence really exposed with high lines or lack of numbers.
If it’s a common trait for German teams to play a high line, that’s a big factor when looking to bring a player in to a top club in the premier league because big EPL teams will normally face teams playing deep low blocks the majority of time. A player would need to be suited to that scenario more than a high line opposition.
No question, we're building from the back. Defence and midfield have improved out of all recognition. I'm confident that once that base is in place consistently, our forward play will get a bit more attention and our wide men will come good.
To be fair I’ve never seen Bundesliga fans claim that. Yes some will argue that Haaland is proof the Bundesliga isn’t much different to premier league due to his scoring rate actually improving so far. But not seen anyone claim the Bundesliga made him.
Hudson Odoi was literally never anything in England, Sadio Mane has 5 league goals in 11 appearances (750 mins) which is a higher rate than his last season in the prem, he has 9 in 18 so on course for 25+ goals all comps which is more than last year.
I firmly believe Haaland would succeed at any premier league team. He is just physically superior, has movement up with the best of them and his finishing is superior.
After a bright start this season, Sancho has dropped quite a few turds. Concern is warranted.
Would be feeling weird to be the only player who is on the "expected to improve" list and does not, under ETH.
Ole and the people doing recruitment done around that time have a lot to answer for. They’ve cost the club about half a billion in shite.
The player whose form I am most concerned about from the current squad. There are a lot of quality wingers coming through Europe right now so I would look to move Sancho on in the summer if he continues like this - it is just not working out for him here so far.
Tbf he also bought Varane and Bruno.
Maguire and AWB are actually pretty good players and were performing pretty well for like two, three years before the last season. Imo they're still good players just not fit for ETH style. You put them in a team play with a low line, counter attacking football and they'd look pretty good I reckon. Agree we largely overpaid for them but truth is we've always been overpaying for players since SAF.
Sancho was considered a generational talent when we bought him. The whole caf was drooling over him. VDB looked pretty good in that Ajax team and he's a ETH player. He's been injured maybe he'd turn good under ETH when he's back.
I know it's quite a fashion to shit on Ole now but we also need to be fair imo. His dressing room management was dog shit and he's not a good coach nor a good tactician but his transfers were actually not that bad.
Can’t argue with the ETH methods so far. He’s done brilliantly. But the sancho thing is confusing. He consistently mis-controls the ball and gives it away and has no end product. Reminds me of depay in that he doesn’t have enough pace for a PL winger. Would there be any harm throwing Garnacho in? He seems to have more pace and also the mentality for it. Sancho seems in a bad place mentally and never seems up for it. No harm trying something different that keeps team balance instead of throwing Bruno to the left in second half like at Chelsea.
I can’t work out what has happened to him. It’s alright saying the German league is easier, but he absolutely tore it up there, and it wasn’t just because he was a pace merchant like Werner. He was sharp, technical, scoring/setting up goals from either side of the park.
He hasn’t had significant injuries either, so what’s happened with him? He did have a few issues at Dortmund with behaviour/attitude and I guess that’s it. Pep seemed fine with him leaving City, and Whitwell reported that Sancho was repeatedly late to (and shite in) training early on last season.
Is it just that he’s a dick?
He hasn’t had significant injuries either, so what’s happened with him? He did have a few issues at Dortmund with behaviour/attitude and I guess that’s it. Pep seemed fine with him leaving City, and Whitwell reported that Sancho was repeatedly late to (and shite in) training early on last season.
Is it just that he’s a dick?
How embarrassing for him. I love Sancho but an 18 year old Garnacho is much more direct with his play. He's going to lose his spot if he doesn't wake up.
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