He was playing amazing even before Haaland joined, his breakout season was when they had Alcacer/Gotze as their strikers, almost won the league then too.
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He was playing amazing even before Haaland joined, his breakout season was when they had Alcacer/Gotze as their strikers, almost won the league then too.
It’s something that seems to have developed about half way through Jose’s tenure and has been with us ever since.
Ole called the players out for their lack of workrate and fitness during the awful run after he was made permanent. He was never able to fix it though.
I wonder whose idea it was to sign him? Even in his dynamic Dortmund days he never looked remotely like a player Ole would want.
Maybe his agent got in Woodward’s ear and told him what a coup it would be to get one over City, by showing the world what fools they were for letting him go?
Maybe his agent got in Woodward’s ear and told him what a coup it would be to get one over City, by showing the world what fools they were for letting him go?
Agree it is attitude rather than the club he came from, his attitude was also questioned from time to time at Dortmund where he was fined and dropped for not turning up to training or late to training.
Even when he came here the first thing he done was went on an extended holiday after the Euros and came back overweight and out so out of condition they got a personal trainer to do one on one training with him to try and get him up to speed fitness wise. It was not not a good first impression and a good indicator of his attitude the physical side of things.
He seems to have very little drive and intensity as if in his mind getting the big move means you have made it , where as with really ambitious players getting the big move is only the start to having made it.
Hopefully we will see an attitude change before it is too late here.
He was Ole's signing, as he aligned with the qualities in a transfer he was looking in a player which were defined as ''humble and arrogant with an X-factor'' which apparently ties in with the United DNA . Sancho fitted the profile which is why we never wavered in our pursuit of him
I was hoping that signing a feisty winger like Antony would lit up some fire in Sancho too but nope even that’s not gonna work either it seems.
Pass the ball backwards.
Show some skills here and there.
Score couple of goals once in a while.
Stay casual on the pitch all the time.
Collect 350k/week.
Look cool on Instagram.
Life is easy.
Pass the ball backwards.
Show some skills here and there.
Score couple of goals once in a while.
Stay casual on the pitch all the time.
Collect 350k/week.
Look cool on Instagram.
Life is easy.
No hunger, doesn't want it enough. It's one thing to be rubbish while trying hard but how can you be as talented as he is and still refuse to even try? No intensity to his game, expert at passing back to the fullback. Some time on the bench should make him rethink things.
I think players at his age being given 300k per week probably does make them feel that they have made it. Sancho needs to realise that he needs to step up massively from Dortmund. What worked for him at Dortmund is not enough at United.
How Sancho is performing for us is almost a carbon copy of how Kagawa and Mikhi performed for us - flashes of brilliance but overall not enough and too timid etc. The positive is that he still has time on his side but it is a bit concerning that he is not giving it 110% with his WC squad place on the line. Maybe he feels he won't make the England squad now for upcoming WC no matter what but that's still no excuse.
For now the answer is to drop him I think. You earn starting spot on merit.
Hmmm. It may have been dressed up like that, but I still think my theory is more likely to be the right one
He's like the anti Bruno/Ronaldo. Honestly, we should pay them to lecture him on their approach to football.
As an attacker your decision making needs to be simple. It's a process of elimination
1. Is there a goal scoring shot on?
2. Is there a killer pass on?
3. Can I drive the ball into space?
If the answer to all of that is no, you then recycle the ball back. He's just way too passive.
As an attacker your decision making needs to be simple. It's a process of elimination
1. Is there a goal scoring shot on?
2. Is there a killer pass on?
3. Can I drive the ball into space?
If the answer to all of that is no, you then recycle the ball back. He's just way too passive.
The first goal against us last night was inexcusable from him, a timid and passive back pass to Malacia who then got into trouble and and just as they were about to hit the counter you could see multiple players sprinting to get back, except for Sancho who instead took a light jog and couldn't even keep up with the camera turning. Bench this fraud please
fecking hell how on earth can Bruno give anybody any advice on decision making, he’s horrific at it
For a midfielder.
For an attacker, his approach is bang on. He just plays like one regardless of where he's postioned.
What he did at Dortmund would absolutely be enough to be a quite solid part of United's first team. But he is doing less. Which doesn't contradict your first point but emphasizes it even more.
it really, really isn’t.
He's worked under ten Hag for 10 or so professional games. He's has been at the club for a little over a year and has worked under 3 different managers, with 3 wildly different personalities and approaches. It's what happens when you have an incompetent board and shoddy footballing structure. Steps have apparently been made in rectifying that, but as I see it Sancho (as well as the rest of the team pretty much, although some like Wan-Bissaka obviously won't fit a ten team) is starting from the ground up here. If he had joined City from Dortmund, it would have been a relatively seamless transition. He's not had that privilege at United and it shows. Still, he's working under the right man in ten Hag and he's got the tools to make it if he's willing to work for it. There's also the issue that it just clicks and comes together for some people later in life (not just footballers!).
This guy is our third highest paid player after Ronaldo and De Gea, which could very well make him our highest paid in a year or two when they’ve moved on.
He’s contracted until 2027, playing bang average on stupid, stupid money. Not a chance we find a buyer. We’re saddled with what will be a growing problem for a while yet.
Thanks again for yet another fine decision Ed Woodward.
He’s contracted until 2027, playing bang average on stupid, stupid money. Not a chance we find a buyer. We’re saddled with what will be a growing problem for a while yet.
Thanks again for yet another fine decision Ed Woodward.
Didn’t know any of that. You would think that a professional athlete should at least be able to keep physically fit without needing any extra motivation. That’s really the bare minimum. Seems to be a personality/attitude issue with him then.
He;'s 22 i'd chill out a bit mate. Admittedly a bit shit for the time being.
I've often wondered how players would of fared if they went to other clubs. For example if Fred went to City and Fernandinho came to us would Fernandinho have become as accomplished as he did and would Fred be as badly seen as he has been as a United player?
Sancho the same. Would he of been a success if he had of went to City with his style being more in tune with their way of playing? I'm not trying to defend his performances with us but it does seem any half way technical player we've signed in the last decade it's been like a death warrant for them. There's no excuses for his lack luster displays for us though. I heavily criticized Rashford last season and Sancho deserves the same but I do think it's too soon to be thinking he's a complete waste of money and I'm hoping that when ETH finally gets the team playing the way he wants Sancho would be an integral part of that squad.
Sancho the same. Would he of been a success if he had of went to City with his style being more in tune with their way of playing? I'm not trying to defend his performances with us but it does seem any half way technical player we've signed in the last decade it's been like a death warrant for them. There's no excuses for his lack luster displays for us though. I heavily criticized Rashford last season and Sancho deserves the same but I do think it's too soon to be thinking he's a complete waste of money and I'm hoping that when ETH finally gets the team playing the way he wants Sancho would be an integral part of that squad.
I would take a 40 year old ozil over current sancho.
Genuine question: Is Sancho better/more effective than Wilfried Zaha? At this point I would say no.
To me it's not that, just that he looks like he's running in treacle.
£100m a year on them 3 plus injury prone Varane and past his best Casemiro. Madness really. Arguably none would even start for the top 5.
It isn't an argument at all. At the very least, Varane and Casemiro would.
The contract is a big issue, and probably played a part in Martial and Rashford's lack of progress (injuries aside)
Too much too young. No motivation to do better when you're already in the upper echelons of the football wage bracket.
I'm sure he's a good kid deep down, but I've not watched him over the last 12 months and thought he's noticeably improved on a single aspect of his game....which is worrying as he was far from the finished article when he moved over.
Too much too young. No motivation to do better when you're already in the upper echelons of the football wage bracket.
I'm sure he's a good kid deep down, but I've not watched him over the last 12 months and thought he's noticeably improved on a single aspect of his game....which is worrying as he was far from the finished article when he moved over.
He's a good footballer, perhaps great but his fitness is terrible.
Work rate is shite, stamina meh and doesn't look like a young player with lean muscle. Antony does.
In the PL you need a certain level of physicality unless you are David Silva.
I hope he can improve his fitness. If we improve our possession game he will come good as his composure in the box is class.
He needs a kick up the ass. If he doesn't get his shit together his England career will be over and he could see himself back in Germany, Newcastle or Everton.
Work rate is shite, stamina meh and doesn't look like a young player with lean muscle. Antony does.
In the PL you need a certain level of physicality unless you are David Silva.
I hope he can improve his fitness. If we improve our possession game he will come good as his composure in the box is class.
He needs a kick up the ass. If he doesn't get his shit together his England career will be over and he could see himself back in Germany, Newcastle or Everton.
Casemiro's not even first choice for us yet. Both still have it all to prove in the PL.
Probably should let them prove it then, rather than state that they aren't good enough.
Where did I state that?
I could still maybe understand the inflated prices for forwards and United tax on top of that, but to give him 350k was outright incompetence. Ole should have been told to feck off when the player he wanted asked for silly salary.
So as compared to Lingard?
@Remember the geese So I didn't then. The top 5 wouldn't start De Gea, Sancho or Ronaldo, that's almost certain. City or Liverpool wouldn't start any, so it's an argument over Varane and Casemiro for the others.
Nothing wrong with what I did say, they are bad value for money right now.
Nothing wrong with what I did say, they are bad value for money right now.
If Varane and Casemiro are not good enough to start for any of the top 5 clubs, then they aren't good enough for us. However, I absolutely believe that they would start for some of the top 5 clubs.
Only we could spent 70+ million on a right winger who plays a lot better on the left, but who actually isn't even a left winger anyway.
This is lovely and that, but we're a long way from that sort of standard.
Otherwise we probably don't have anyone who is good enough for us then!
£250,000 a week for that level of effort should be an actual crime.
We shouldn't be though. We are competing for a top 4 place, therefore you would assume that we have multiple players who can arguably start for some of the other top clubs.
So, he was never a right winger. The people who said that did so to justify their wanton desire for us to sign him, especially after the first saga. Anyone who saw him at BvB knew he tended to play on the left or drift there a lot. He is one of those LF/Wide playmaker hybrid.
To the point of the current discussion, I hate piling on our players, and I think I spend too much time on this thread than I probably should, but I think something might be off with him physically. I expected him to put on a bit of muscle while maintaining agility over the summer but I haven't seen that, which points to him either not taking his career seriously or having some external issues.
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