Jadon Sancho | £72.9M fee agreed

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You think taking the knee has anything to do with being against racism? It doesn’t. You need to stop reading The Guardian.

You accomplish exactly nothing in the fight against racism by taking the knee. It’s just a way to show weakness (as a society) and to make puppets feel that they are actually contributing to something. As a matter of fact it probably creates more racism as it increases the division between the perceived different identities, meaning it suggests that people of colour are different from white people. This is the point of the whole movement.

You are an individual, responsible for your, and only your, actions. You are not responsible for what other people have done historically. Just as people from Africa are not responsible for the slavery that is still going on in part of Africa today.

If you want to fight racism (an honourable quest indeed), do something substantial. Don’t hit on me for telling you the truth.

This is a special level of ignorant.
 
German opening hours are until 10am, or even 12am, there's still certain shops that choose to close at 6 or 7am.
If I want to buy something from such a shop, I won't stand in front of it shouting "YOUR DEADLINE IS FAKE! OPENING HOURS ARE UNTIL 12!!"
It's just utterly bizarre behaviour.

Sure, they might still unlock the door again for me if I'm a bit late, they're still there and it suits them. But I won't get the thing I want at a reduced price showing up 4 hours after the shop is closed, that much should be clear.

this is not buying a loaf of bread.

Read my post. I said at €120m - not at a ‘reduced price’. Your failure to acknowledge something so obvious is what’s bizarre.
 
Insulting another member
Is your point that no one was aware that people of colour in America are victims of racism sometimes? But because of a few knee bending millionaires people now are?

This movement has, just as its predecessor metoo did (and as it successor also will) accomplished nothing substantial but increased tensions between people, which has always been the point. Even if the intention was good initially these movements are always overtaken by people and organisations who wants to cause more disruption and chaos.

Being against it has nothing to do with any stance on racism. George Floyd was clearly murdered and he probably wouldn’t have been if he had been white or lived in a better side of town.

No. My point was that I didn't know you were a moron until you came out to protect us all from "the forces of evil that are dividing our society".

Now I do.
 
Ffs I come in here for mindless posts and I got, well, mindless posts. I like my mindless posts about Sancho at least.
 
What could you expect of 200 page thread about Sancho's move? Keep in mind these 200 pages are just from the beginning of June...
 
Read my reply to this post. Youl have one.

Honestly I don't know why posters try to rewrite history just because the club fecked up.
How did the club feck up? We rightly didn't buy him because the price was too high then.
 
this is not buying a loaf of bread.

Read my post. I said at €120m - not at a ‘reduced price’. Your failure to acknowledge something so obvious is what’s bizarre.
What I meant is - If Utd came a week or two later with 120m and favourable structure for them, yeah, I think they would have still sold.
Just as they'd surely have accepted a bit less than their proclaimed price had you approached in time (like they're doing now).

But that wasn't the narrative that was peddled, was it. It was, the deadline is 'artificial' (duh :lol: ) and BVB will actually cave to a lower price late in the window. Which was clearly complete nonsense, as anyone who listened to what they said could have known.

That's not a judgement on whether Utd should have done it, btw. The way this went now, 90m € a year later, is a good deal for Utd too, and last year with the pandemic 100m+ transfers were probably difficult to stem. So it's perfectly reasonable to not have done it.

As I said in the post that started this discussion, I'm just puzzled why Utd didn't end, but rather seemingly fuelled, the media narrative that the transfer was still on.
 
How did the club feck up? We rightly didn't buy him because the price was too high then.
Because they wasted the whole of last summer in persuit of him, before panicking to wrap up most the transfers in the final week or couple days of the season.

They thought that they'd be able to haggle dortmund down and it backfired, we could have been a lot more efficient than what we showed. In the end we waited 6 months to 1 year to wrap up a player who was a target for a previous window, just like Bruno was.

So yes, Neville is right in his views for me. He speaks on behalf of many fans who aren't really excited from us finalising a player who was a target of last summer. I want to see who we get from here on.
 
What I meant is - If Utd came a week or two later with 120m and favourable structure for them, yeah, I think they would have still sold.
Just as they'd surely have accepted a bit less than their proclaimed price had you approached in time (like they're doing now).

But that wasn't the narrative that was peddled, was it. It was, the deadline is 'artificial' (duh :lol: ) and BVB will actually cave to a lower price late in the window. Which was clearly complete nonsense, as anyone who listened to what they said could have known.

That's not a judgement on whether Utd should have done it, btw. The way this went now, 90m € a year later, is a good deal for Utd too, and last year with the pandemic 100m+ transfers were probably difficult to stem. So it's perfectly reasonable to not have done it.

As I said in the post that started this discussion, I'm just puzzled why Utd didn't end, but rather seemingly fuelled, the media narrative that the transfer was still on.

the club don’t control the media narrative. My overwhelming point is that there’s a tsunami of things that are said in a transfer sage that involves United. Most of it is BS, assumption or inference.
 
Some reams of bullshit on here.

There were so many arguments here last summer where the German defense league fans were convinced that Sancho's price would stay at €120m euros this summer or may even go up, because a lot more clubs would be interested and covid effects would go away.

And would refuse to listen to reasonable United fans who told them otherwise that the price was going to come down dramatically over 12 months of losses for all the clubs.

Qué sorpresa, they are now not even acknowledging this anymore :lol:
Could also say that there were plenty of United fans on here last summer whi totally ignored what they said about Dortmund's stance. Proved right, were they not?
 
What a whiny Fanny. I wonder if Gary thinks Real Madrid fans were just as bored about finally getting Ronaldo after spending 2 to 3 years chasing him?

Sounds like a little baby. Sometimes the club isn’t prepared to sell and you just have to wait. But if it is your prime target, it will often be worth that wait.
Exactly.

Neville needs to shut up for a while, he's becoming tiresome.
 
the club don’t control the media narrative. My overwhelming point is that there’s a tsunami of things that are said in a transfer sage that involves United. Most of it is BS, assumption or inference.
That's true of course. But do you really think the club had no hand in any of the news about this last summer? I find that hard to imagine, with the way the stories by the usual suspects were worded.
 
if United offered €120m and all other terms such as schedule of payments were acceptable - but this was 2 weeks after the ‘deadline’, do you genuinely believe it would have been rejected?

it’s all part of negotiation. Fergie famously said we wouldn’t sell Real Madrid a virus - wasn’t long after we sold them Ronaldo.

the main issue I have is that certain posters take as gospel what clubs say. It’s not the reality.
I don't understand why there's so much focus on whether the deadline was real or not. Of course it was part of negotiation and a deal could have possibly been accepted afterwards. However insisting on the deadline wasn't just to pressure United, but more importantly it was about giving Dortmund the option to reject an otherwise acceptable offer without disrespecting their agreement with Sancho.

Whether they actually would have rejected such an offer is a bit irrelevant to the purpose of that deadline.
 
That's true of course. But do you really think the club had no hand in any of the news about this last summer? I find that hard to imagine, with the way the stories by the usual suspects were worded.

I’m sure some stories were, but again that would have been self serving, in the same way some stories from Dortmund would be self serving for them. Just because a club briefs something, doesn’t automatically give it any credibility.
 
the club don’t control the media narrative. My overwhelming point is that there’s a tsunami of things that are said in a transfer sage that involves United. Most of it is BS, assumption or inference.
United briefed about Sancho to be honest, and to make it worse did the same the summer before that too
 
So the FA, UEFA and a ton of other football associations wants to create disruption and chaos in society by having players taking a knee, apparently. I'm glad I can come to the caf to learn how the world works. If you would've asked me 5min ago if the FA was involved with the deep state and actually run by Soros and the Clinton's I would've laughed at you, but now I know better.

With my new found knowledge I can see no other reason why this evil plan was set in motion other than to stop us from signing Sancho. Hillary has obviously been against United having a tricky right winger ever since Nani left.
 
He is right though
He is not. He is fecking hypocrite. In many things and also in this. He and Scholes are behaving like players are bought for monopoly money. "United must sign Sancho and 3,4 other players. Ole is not backed if we don't spend 300 mil euros etc...Bla bla bla".
This is 100+ mill transfer. Yeah, i don't care for that money, you don't, Gary don't but Glazers, Dotmund, Sancho and his agent do. For every million in that transfer.
 
He is not. He is fecking hypocrite. In many things and also in this. He and Scholes are behaving like players are bought for monopoly money. "United must sign Sancho and 3,4 other players. Ole is not backed if we don't spend 300 mil euros etc...Bla bla bla".
This is 100+ mill transfer. Yeah, i don't care for that money, you don't, Gary don't but Glazers, Dotmund, Sancho and his agent do. For every million in that transfer.
The saga has lasted 3 summers, in this the excitement of this transfers is not what it should be. He is right about that, even if you are also right about him and the other stuff
 
He is right though
Is he? Ronaldo was close to joining Real Madrid for years before he joined them. Journalist need to report news and that's what they are doing. If Gary doesn't like then don't read it. Don't think it has taken away any excitement of signing one of the best talents of next generation.

The day Sancho signs, I will be absolutely delighted and would look forward to seeing him play for us next season. Probably watch all stupid friendlies (which I would have done anyway but it would become more interesting). I am sure Gary will too.
 
He is not. He is fecking hypocrite. In many things and also in this. He and Scholes are behaving like players are bought for monopoly money. "United must sign Sancho and 3,4 other players. Ole is not backed if we don't spend 300 mil euros etc...Bla bla bla".
This is 100+ mill transfer. Yeah, i don't care for that money, you don't, Gary don't but Glazers, Dotmund, Sancho and his agent do. For every million in that transfer.

they have to spout hyperbole so they get likes and clicks. It’s the same as on here, being controversial or aggressive or argumentative gets the attention. Sensible, rational discussion doesn’t exist on Twitter.
 
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