Rodwell looks proper quality to me, and he has a great name.
Would cost a bomb, but could well be worth it.
Would cost a bomb, but could well be worth it.
Jack Rodwell | Sold to City
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Worth the investment much like Rio and Rooney in the past?
Not over other positions that are in need of more urgent attention in my view no, i.e left wing, Goalkeeper and possibly striker, plus it depends on just how much money we do have to spend, i doubt itll be alot more than 30 million, 40 max, and i dont think blowing 90% of that on Rodwell (which is what Everton would demand before even considering selling him) would be wise.
Think hed be better off developing his game there and wed be better of filling other more urgent holes in the squad, were ok for central midfielders in my opinion, i think Scholes will stay on another year then of course you have Fletcher/Carrick/Anderson and it looks like Hargreaves is close to making a comeback, we'll see how that goes, point is i dont think centre midfield is in urgent need of reinforcements, certainly not over other positions were far less well stocked in.
I'd risk it I think he's gonna be a great player.
Everton will gouge our eyes out before they let him go...in the past I would say, yes. But with Citeh and chavs in the picture and the debt levels as they are i'm not sure even Fergie can convince the ginger twats who own the club to part with 30 million for an 19year old.
Do believe he will become a quality player though.
Do believe he will become a quality player though.
It's been mentioned that he'd make a great CB for us. Isn't he a midfielder?
He plays both roles superbly.
Correct me if I am wrong but hasn't he hardly ever played at CB for the 1st team?
i dont think he is worth more than 17m .
of course everton would want more for him than that , but anything more than 17 m is too much.
he is still a kid and i doubt he would break into our first 11 just like that. we've got few CMs and Vidic Rio Wes and Evens for Cb is enough.
ah and smalling is coming as well.
maybe a swap for anderson?
of course everton would want more for him than that , but anything more than 17 m is too much.
he is still a kid and i doubt he would break into our first 11 just like that. we've got few CMs and Vidic Rio Wes and Evens for Cb is enough.
ah and smalling is coming as well.
maybe a swap for anderson?
Paying for potential is a dangerous game. Rooney was an exception & the money we spent was necessary to get him into the club at an early age & develop him. Although very different players, Rodwell is no where near the class of Rooney at the same age, so these £30m figures being touted are pretty rediculous. Problem is - can we afford not to splash out on him & risk losing potential world-class player to our rivals?!
I hope we go for him tho, as he would suit our style of play & also seems a decent lad in the process. Add in the fact that he's English & under-20 - we'd have him for many years to come & not have to worry about the home-grown rule soon to be implemented!
extending home grown rule would be a big step backwards for english football. hope it wont happen.
Everton would want Rooney-style money for him. And they really need the money too.
I very much doubt we can afford that kind of purchase right now.
I very much doubt we can afford that kind of purchase right now.
Hasn't SAF always said we will always be in the market for that special player? If he is indeed as special as he is made out to be I am sure we will have the funds for the transfer.. I am not sure he would want to leave Everton or that they would let him leave anyway though..
But I'm not sure he's a Rooney style talent. Rooney was so obviously a superstar in the making, having played brilliantly for England at the time, that his big fee was understandable. I think Everton would want similar money for Rodwell, even though he has not proved himself as much as Rooney had at the same point.
Haven't you heard? The Ronaldo money's sitting in the bank, waiting to be spent!
Hmmm exactly what I was trying to figure out 'cause all I hear is this hype around Rodwell but I haven't really seen him as that special type of player.. To be completely honest I have barely seen him play..
Please Mr. Red Knights...
Seriously, lets see how he does for the rest of the season...
Him and Wiltshire are Englands future stars
Him and Wiltshire are Englands future stars
To be honest, Rooney looked very good and was well worth 30m back then. He did it in the international level and has played superbly since his debut, as for Rodwell, he hasn't played in the England squad yet, and even though he is an Evertan 1st team member, a price more than 20m is inflated and we wouldn't need him. If Owen Hargreaves cost 18m Rodwell should be around that or even less. I don't think we will go for him as he stated he would love the chance to play 1st team football and I don't think he will be 1st team quality at the start if he plays for us that is with Fletch/Carrick/Scholes and possibly a fit Hargreaves + Anderson back. Could work at CB ? He said that he is afraid of Drogba + Torres and his favored position is DM so let him stay there.
Just my opinion though. Could always go for him in 2011 as he still would be only 20 or something. This season a GK is the 1st priorty for me, VDS is still good but we must blend a new GK which is more reliable than PIG + Foster. Also... we could consider a LW if Obertan doesn't step up but I still think we have a great squad with lots of potential.
Just my opinion though. Could always go for him in 2011 as he still would be only 20 or something. This season a GK is the 1st priorty for me, VDS is still good but we must blend a new GK which is more reliable than PIG + Foster. Also... we could consider a LW if Obertan doesn't step up but I still think we have a great squad with lots of potential.
To be honest, by form wise, he should be there in the England squad for SA. Even though he is unproven, his talent has shone, not just by scoring against us, but he has played an important role for Everton throughout the whole season.
Rodewell should go to the World Cup? WTF?!
You'd be feckin gutted if you got ousted from the England squad by a 19yr old who's showing promise, when you've been around all the squads of qualifying. Capello should not be making the same mistake in picking Rodwell, as Sven did by picking Walcott!
Rodwell's time will come but Englands mid-field squad has to be what you know & not what you might find out. The hardworks been done in terms of formations & personnel used by Capello, it would be a surprise if he tinkers with it & brings to SA, players that havent even played a senior match!
He has potential so why not ? Rooney played at 18 so what is the big surprise ? Compared with all the other England internationals, he is something different for me. I mean, you can call me spastic but I cannot deny that the lad has potential.... Certainly English potential for me.
Yeah... but why not ? He has won like 26 trophies in 23 yrs certainly the best ever manager living on this planet.. why not god ?
Potential. fecking hell. I guess you don't remember Walcott wasting a place at the 2006 WC, acting as a mascot, when England could have brought Jermaine Defoe.
Walcott wasn't even playing consistently in the PL yet, Rodwell certainly has. Why not internationally ? Let's say there are 5 spots for the MF, Lamps, S.G., G.Barry, Carrick and you'd pick a Hargreaves Vs a Rodwell. I'd still pick Rodwell, don't every bring up Milner as he is a RW. Reo Coker ? Parker ? Bullard ? Still I'd pick a younster to earn more experience than pick someone who probably won't play in the next Euro or WC. I'm talking sense here, not trying to be spastic.
Future English International player. I am sure he will be good but not sure how good. There were plenty of highly rated youngsters who failed to shine when they became grown up though. At this stage not worth 30M Everton would probably ask for.
If you are taking five CMs, then yes, you may take Rodwell instead of an older player who has limited chance of being a future England starter
I'm not certain you do take five IMs though, most teams will surely only take 4, two starters and two spares, unless you plan to play a 3-man central midfield, then you need that extra spare. I guess England could take five, as Gerrard is a wideplayer as much as he is a CM, and then Milner can be cover for both flanks and also maybe LB cover for Ashley Cole
But then, do you take Rodwell, as look at the midfielders we have, where's the destroyer, the Hargreaves or the Palacios or the Mascherano, that player who does just go round pressing the ball and kicking people (for want of a better word). You might want someone different to Rodwell
For my money Rodwell would be excellent as a destroyer for Engand. For his style is very simalr to Spain's Senna. But Capello will never look his way till after the world cup.
is he really that good and worth all the fuss in here?
Why does everyone bang on about Rooney costing 30m? He cost 20m initially with up to 7m in add-ons of which is oft-quoted that the total figure ended up at 23m.
and what a bargain that was
I would have thought we'd end up paying 100% of the add-ons for Rooney. Was part of the deal contingent on him curing cancer? Other than that he's achieved everything you could have asked for.
It was actually closer to 27 million. ( the 22 million is the direct payment to Everton, the rest is based on performances in Europe and for England, both of which he has / will achieve). So at the end of the day 27 million is what he'll end up costing.
Taking into account inflation I think it's fair to say he's a 30 million pound striker. And well worth every single pound we paid for him.
According to this http://dps.twiihosting.net/manutd/doc/content/doc_10_139.pdf he cost 25.650m total (page 15) which includes various fees. The actual payment to Everton was 23m.
All I know is that if United miss out on him this summer, it would be foolish
It looks so thus far.is he really that good and worth all the fuss in here?
I can't see him going anywhere else this Summer so i don't think there's much chance of us missing out. Having said that, the longer we leave it the more he will cost.