Interesting comparison as Ireland was a talented player just not mentally. I can see elements of a few players in his style and it's going to be interesting to see how productive he is across the season.
Jack Grenglish
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Interesting comparison as Ireland was a talented player just not mentally. I can see elements of a few players in his style and it's going to be interesting to see how productive he is across the season.
He's down as an Irish national in FIFA 16.
Reminds me of Januzaj, in terms of style. Classy player. No blessed with blistering pace, but goes past players with ease.
I like this kid. Impressed me yesterday.
What a player Stephen was, genuinely brilliant on his day. Its such a shame about all his personal problems as we sure as hell could have used him for Ireland and he was just a joy to watch.
Of course he is. Until he represents England he will continue to be regarded as an Irish national as he last represented Ireland.
He might as well play for Ireland. Got just as much chance of winning something as if he played for England and will be loved by the Irish fans. If he chooses to play for England, he'll be hated by the Irish and as soon as he makes a mistake will also be hated by the English. He won't be able to not make it out of the group stages of a WC with England though.
I don't really see it. Grealish is a better dibbler and can play wider. Moves the ball quicker than Ireland, but maybe not quite the vision or ball striking Ireland had.
Really? In what way? Doesn't remind me anything of him.
Makes sense
Don't see Stephen Ireland at all in Grealish
If I had to compare more I'd say Steve McManaman
If I had to compare more I'd say Steve McManaman
Yeah, the stephen ireland comparisons are strange. No idea where that comes from. Still puzzled as to why Villa didn't buy a striker that he can feed. Also between him and Gil I don't think they understand the difference in their roles.
He's got two legs and plays in midfield?
Well, just confirmed he's declared for England. Not much of a surprise.
Poorly advised. He'll never be a starting 11 regular.
Never rated him anyway.
He's shite.
Might as well. He's got the talent, the question is whether he'll ever be effective enough to be a regular.
Maybe he feels English having lived here all his life and having parents that have done the same. Just maybe. Probably isn't good enough though.
Best of luck to him. In all honesty, its not the strongest English team so he could break through and Ireland don't look like getting back to the heady days of the early 90s (or even the early noughties) any time soon so its probably the right footballing decision anyway.
Grenglish 
Don't care.
1. Losing my interest in international football every year.
2. Controversial but, I must be the only guy who doesn't rate him highly at all.
3. Shit hair cut. Looks like a squid
1. Losing my interest in international football every year.
2. Controversial but, I must be the only guy who doesn't rate him highly at all.
3. Shit hair cut. Looks like a squid
He'll have to move to a bigger club now too, who's he been linked with?
Is he a winger?
I rate him a lot so I'm pleased he'll play for England but it was never a big deal to me one way or the other, as long as his choice is respected. I think he can compete with Barkley for that AM/#10 spot.
I'm pretty disappointed as he'd be really good for Ireland in a few years. I think it's the wrong decision though, can't see him being a regular for England unless he improves a lot. He may well improve, but i don't know if he'll be that good. Respect his decision either way.
He would have been silly to have chosen Ireland under the current landscape.
Sure he will play virtually every game, but Ireland wont most likely be at Euro 2016 ,they have a decent chance at being at the 2018 World cup.
England are going to be at Euro 2016 and pretty much certain to be at 2018 World cup.
His competition in the England squad is hardly world class
Sure he will play virtually every game, but Ireland wont most likely be at Euro 2016 ,they have a decent chance at being at the 2018 World cup.
England are going to be at Euro 2016 and pretty much certain to be at 2018 World cup.
His competition in the England squad is hardly world class
Fair play to him, considering he's picked the harder road to get PT. Would've had a spot handed to him with Ireland, with a starting place pencilled in. Decent player but still not sure where he'd fit. Probably AM as he seems a bit too light to be a CM and Villa was overrun when he was asked to do it.
There's something not straight forward about this that I cant quite put my finger on. His agent and his father both made some odd remarks over the course of the last year. Id love to know why he took so long to make his decision in the first place.
I suspect the agent has put a lot of pressure on him (he did the same to Gareth Bale re England as well). Its not like he's some one in a generation talent either. Keane mentioned something about his father being an issue well over a year ago (this was when it looked like he might declare for Ireland).
The fact he played for Ireland for 3/4 years at underage level before this doesn't really bother me, we ourselves have profited from the same system enough over the years. Its the line about it "making more sense commercially" that makes me suspicious about the advice he's been receiving.
I wish him well with England although I do question how many caps we'll see him get long-term.
I suspect the agent has put a lot of pressure on him (he did the same to Gareth Bale re England as well). Its not like he's some one in a generation talent either. Keane mentioned something about his father being an issue well over a year ago (this was when it looked like he might declare for Ireland).
The fact he played for Ireland for 3/4 years at underage level before this doesn't really bother me, we ourselves have profited from the same system enough over the years. Its the line about it "making more sense commercially" that makes me suspicious about the advice he's been receiving.
I wish him well with England although I do question how many caps we'll see him get long-term.
You mention hair a strange amount.. Are you bald may I ask?
Not that I'm effected by this but it annoys me when youngsters play for youth teams for one country then changes for a "better team" as they grow up. These players get the benefit of the training and development from national team coaches as well as the exposure which they are taking away from someone else. ( over the years a lot of Welsh youngsters have been picked up by bigger teams after playing well for u19 or u21 only to the go on to play for England u21. )
Hard to second guess why a decision is made, but seems odd for him to travel here to represent us if his heart wasn't in it at one point. But the bottom line is if he feels English that's who he should play for.
Where did the line "making more sense commercially" come from @Decotron ?
Where did the line "making more sense commercially" come from @Decotron ?
Would he have had a decent chance at making the Ireland squad for the Euros if he declared for them?
That works both ways, especially here in Ireland, we have had a few who played underage for NI. We are kinda unique on the world stage with our relationship with both the North and England. You only had to see that rugby crowd in London yesterday to see how many Paddies are loose on the streets of England.
I reckon, unless his form dipped he'd be captain at some point and nailed on for 100 caps. We are fairly shit in fairness.
There shouldn't be too many complaints from the Irish. The lad is pretty much completely English, he can only qualify through his grandparents. Millions of us have Irish grandparents. I've not really seen what the fuss is about anyway to be honest.
Makes no sense. England will be playing a 4-3-3 with inside forwards and he's a wide player
That's Sterling / Walcott / Young / Welbeck / Sturridge / Ox / whoever else breaks through (Wilson for example is tipped for this position )
They'll play him in the last qualifier to tie him up and then drop him citing ' young player needs time to develop'
If he didn't play for ireland there wouldn't be this amount of coverage about him. Nothing he has done shouts English international to me.
That's Sterling / Walcott / Young / Welbeck / Sturridge / Ox / whoever else breaks through (Wilson for example is tipped for this position )
They'll play him in the last qualifier to tie him up and then drop him citing ' young player needs time to develop'
If he didn't play for ireland there wouldn't be this amount of coverage about him. Nothing he has done shouts English international to me.
I think the easiest thing to do would be to say that if you play u19 or u21 football you can't play until 23 for another country. Which is going to be when you stop being Eligable for youth football.
its such a kick in the teeth for Ireland though who helped develop him. No problem if he wants to play for England but he would've been signed as a professional at 16/17 where he has to make a decision on what team to commit to so why can't he commit to a country then. Unfortunately the answer is he wanted to have on his cv he was playing international youth football as it gives him more experience and is more valuable to his club. However he was probably not good enough for England at that point.
He was obviously always more English looking at this 
Best of luck to him. I've always thought you should play for the country you feel most affiliated to so on that basis this seems to be the right decision, even though it has gone against us.