Too much is expected from footballers in terms of image.
Jack Grenglish
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He's earning that money to play football not give example to normal teenagers. I don't understand why people think that being paid a lot of money for doing something makes it absolutely necessary to be a role model. My company won't care if I get drunk on a weekend and end up doing silly stuff so long as I show up on Monday and do my job, neither should Villa care about Grealish doing something on holiday.
Young lad gets absolutely smashed on holiday and has a few crafty fags (probably didn't even inhale properly).
The proliferation of camera phones and social media means that we're hearing tales like this all the time now, and every time the situations are blown totally out of proportion.
Like it or not, what Grealish has done is typical of what a lot of 19 year old Brits get up to at one stage or another. It's a formative experience.
Villa should have a quiet word and that should be the end of it.
He's only 19.
The proliferation of camera phones and social media means that we're hearing tales like this all the time now, and every time the situations are blown totally out of proportion.
Like it or not, what Grealish has done is typical of what a lot of 19 year old Brits get up to at one stage or another. It's a formative experience.
Villa should have a quiet word and that should be the end of it.
He's only 19.
This might help Ireland's cause, because he wouldn't receive this media attention getting hammered as an Irish international, they do it everytime they're playing in Dublin.
I think it's mental the pedestal footballers are put on with respect to this kind of thing.
Right now you will have future doctors, surgeons, politicians, captains of industry, poet laureates studying at Oxford, Cambridge, LSE etc who regularly get ratted on a Weds night.
Why footballers should have to set more of an example is ludicrous!
Right now you will have future doctors, surgeons, politicians, captains of industry, poet laureates studying at Oxford, Cambridge, LSE etc who regularly get ratted on a Weds night.
Why footballers should have to set more of an example is ludicrous!
It's always the 'role model' angle - the reason that impressionable kids go off the rails, etc. Nothing to do with the shitty parents...
Its tragic that this is even classed as news, has the world really gotten so pointlessly dull?
Not saying he has to be an example, just you can't totally dismiss it what's ok for normal 19 year olds is ok for him. The money is just one example of why he is different to normal 19 year olds not the only one.
However, as is often the way with these things, the crime is getting nabbed not necessarily the act
I get that but how sad that "footballers" are held as the "role models" of society - the vast majority of whom have a gift, rather than something that is more attributable to hard work. Your average kid has a much better chance of studying hard and striving to have a good job.
I don't think it's the money but more to do with the fact that as a footballer you are constantly in the public eye with kids looking upto you. You could earn the same being a banker and piss about on the weekend as much as you like because no-one outside your circle will know who you are. Being a public figure (whether it be footballer, actor, singer, presenter etc) also means you have to abide by slightly different rules to society.
Well that's what my take on it is anyway.
If kids are looking up to footballers then it's their parents job to convince them they're not particularly good role models. Show business celebrities are certainly no better than this 90 per cent of time. Besides, is Jack Grealish really a role model for that many young people right now? Messi, Neymar, Ronaldo are and it could be argued that they need to watch out a little more than your usual Charlie Adam very few people take interest in, Grealish not so much really.
Indeed. Cameron and Osborne at the Bullingdon Club as 19 year olds immediately springs to mind.
I personally agree with what you're saying but we all know that's not how things work. You tell a kid to clean his room, it will still stay a mess. You tell kids to not piss about in school, yet they do. You tell them smoking is bad, yet they will try a puff. There's only so much a parent can do.
Also, yeah of course Neymar and Messi and Ronaldo are the usual role models but there will be a lot of people in Ireland that will look up to Graelish, especially if he is from anywhere near their county...
He's being paid outrageous money, specifically to NOT do this sort of thing. Politicians, doctors, etc. are not.
He moved at the age of eight. He grew up in Senegal. He's Senegalese.
This.
No he isn't. He's being paid outrageous money specifically to kick a ball around for 90 minutes.
Nowhere in his contract will it say 'don't go on holiday with your mates at the end of the season' nor will it say 'don't act like a normal person your age off the pitch' either.
How much money he gets paid is a complete and utter irrelevance.
Silly of the lad to get as blootered as he did when he knows he's one of the few Villa players in the spotlight for their performances under Sherwood, but equally as silly that as a young lad he isn't allowed to do something like this during his holidays. I don't understand moral outrage or the cries of 'oh but he's a role model' either as drinking as a late teen/young adult is one of those things and is part of growing up. Most people would have been in the state that he's in at one point in their lives but aren't unfortunate enough to have a camera following them everywhere because they're famous. Still though, i doubt this will happen again due to how society expects footballers to behave. Feel a bit sorry for them sometimes.
How is he being paid specifically for not drinking alcohol while on holiday, once a year? This is silly, he's a footballer.
If you can get me a £20k a week job that will require me to specifically not drink alcohol then I'm all for it. Actually, doctors getting hammered and acting crazy is much more dangerous since it could affect their ability to perform their duties and it could be life threatening to people. If Jack Grealish gets drunk and it affects his form then Aston Villa fans will be the only ones to suffer and no lives will be lost.
I can't tell if you're being serious here?
I find it difficult to believe that Aston Villa are paying teenagers upwards of 20k per week. Incremental increases over the course of his contract, maybe.
No i'm serious - well sort of. I'm saying that your average kid through hard work will find it easier to land a good job through studying than he will by training as a footballer. I'm not saying no footballer trains hard, but I think it's a bit of a lottery in terms of making it as a footballer compared to academics.
How do you come to that sort of conclusion?
Its lazy parenting from society, it seems that people would rather have some celebrity or sportsman be the rolemodel for their kids than themselves.
Fair play to the fella, in truth it doesn't matter if he's 19 or 29, if he wants to have fun then so what.
Lord help me.
Because "chest" totally rhymes with "Grealish"
I am actually quite, quite sure that it would be written into his contract that he should conduct himself properly whilst at the club.
The idea that "he is young and therefore shouldn't be held responsible for his actions" is absolutely ridiculous. He is living a privileged life, where he receives well above the average wage. The exchange for this is that he should conduct himself in a more professional manner. He hasn't done this, so he should be held responsible for his actions.
Whats the issue with the fact he went on holiday and got pissed, jheeze people these days, let a guy live
Rubbish. He's 19. When you're 19 you make silly decisions. Whether you get paid a fortune as a footballer is irrelevant because that doesnt make you any less impetuous or daft than any other 19 year old kid. Being young gives you lattitude - I suspect that's especially the case when you've been thrust into the limelight and had a lot of pressure placed on your shoulders.
He'll face "consequences" which will be the manager having a word in his ear warning him that he's public property now. That'sll be it.
What's so unprofessional about a player being drunk when he's off the job?
Its not that he got drunk. It's that he got so drunk he was lying unconscious in the street.
Still not seeing why its unprofessional. Maybe a danger to his personal safety depending on where his mates are but unprofessional?
This. What a load of shite
Its common for athletes to have stipulations within contracts prohibiting them to engage in dangerous or reckless activities. The fact he's lying unconscious in the road would be seen as reckless behaviour.
He'll probably be fined for his behaviour, for that to happen there will need to be a clause in his contract explaining why.
Thing is, are we sure that's even the case? Picture's often look a thousand times worse than what's actually happening. For all we know he's been dumped on his arse by a mate and someone's misinterpreted the resulting photo. Disregard this if he's admitted being blackout drunk mind
Personally I've got no issue with a young lad being blind drunk on holiday in the off-season.
He was class against Birmingham last night. Villa were dire in the first half so Sherwood brought him on and he changed the game, sparking their attack with some fantastic runs and just moving things along at a quicker tempo in the final third. The way he shields that ball when he runs with it tricks defenders when he feints and he has deceptive acceleration.
He looks class alright. In terms of his style of play I hate to say it but the first player that comes to mind would be Stephen Ireland.