Ivan Perisic

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I can't understand all the negativity behind this alleged deal. He's the type of player regulars here have been calling for, an explosive player who can go past defenders at full speed out wide and capable of crossing the ball, different to our current 'cut inside' players. I think he would be a hit!
 
Seasoned international means zero, Milner is a seasoned international and I would never have wanted him anywhere near a United team. Experience is a crutch used to justify these kinds of players, Ashely Young is the same. Buying utter mediocrity for enormous fees isn't going to get us back on track any faster than giving young talents a chance.

The price worries me, But He provides the right balance to the side when he will play. So does milner, That's why klopp has got him because of his high work rate .
 
Is we are really in for him and willing to pay any close to what is suggested this would be the worst transfer in years..

He is simply not good enough and his character is supposed to be weak as well. He is the typical "shine in a few games per season and disappear in the rest" guy - the same scheme also applies to Mkhi to acertain extent. We need quality players to at least have a little shout on the PL/CL next season.

Really don't want this transfer to happen - not even on a free.
 
I'm all for the "trust the manager" line of thought but it really is disappointing if we're actually in for Perisic. Not just because I think he's average at best but also because of the "type" of player he is. Was hoping we'd move to a more attacking system but if we're signing the likes of Perisic to be first choice wingers, we're going to put more emphasis on defensive work rate and putting in a shift than actual quality with the ball. It's fine for squad players but if we're spending top bucks on a player in his late 20s for the first team, you gotta hope for better value for the buck.
Not surprising given the way we've set up this season. Jose has taken to Lingard big time and even after the Ajax he called it a victory for people who "believe in respecting opposition and nullifying their weaknesses". This appears in line with that.

It's just all a bit dull and unnecessary for a club of our resources. The general feeling in this thread about this player is rather sad. At best he appears to be effective and the general feeling is that he's not really got the ability to be a top player.
 
Those inter fans are saying similar to what I'm saying, surrounded by better players he could be really good and solve his inconsistency. Not to mention being managed by Mourinho.
Wait, he's inconsistent at 28? I thought that was his forte?
 
Can we not get someone as good but younger for £35 million?

£35 million should give us a cherry pick of left wingers!
 
Don't think I've ever seen him play. Disheartening to see the cafs reaction.

Any chance we could we signing him as right back cover/ future right back? Turn him into Valencia mark 2?
 
I'm not saying he's useless offensively. What I mean is, he isn't top drawer with the ball and our interest in him is more indicative of a workhorse like approach to our wing play. The rumoured fee for him is absolutely bonkers.


Well, if he trusts Martial and Mkhi for the wide spots, I doubt we'd be paying the rumoured amounts for a guy in his late 20s. Will be bought as first choice if he's acquired at that price really but yeah, not much we can do but hope he excels if he's coming here.

Perisic isn't top drawer with the ball?!

Excuse me but have people actually watched this guy at all? He WILL pose a threat to ANY defence in the world.

There are two things I like most about the idea of getting Perisic. One is that he fits in almost perfectly into Jose's idea of a winger (hard working attacking player who can also drop back to defend). The second is that, getting him indicates a plan to still give Martial a chance and believing that Mikhi will still come good.

We need some really good wide men and he is one. Moura is another one being rumoured. Costa is another. Frankly, they are all good enough for the next level we want especially if wingers like Neymar and Bale are unavailable or will cost you all your transfer budget.

Different people have their different preferences and that is fine. But what really counts is who the manager prefers, who is available, who wants to join us and what's the price? If you prefer Costa but United can't get him, what's the point? If they tried to get Moura but couldn't, what's the point? If Perisic is available, desperately wants to wear our badge, willing to take a lower salary and Jose loves him, why not? We have seen that age may not necessarily count against players in their late twenties in modern football. If his price is good and he can still give us four solid seasons, why not?
 
Is we are really in for him and willing to pay any close to what is suggested this would be the worst transfer in years..

He is simply not good enough and his character is supposed to be weak as well. He is the typical "shine in a few games per season and disappear in the rest" guy - the same scheme also applies to Mkhi to acertain extent. We need quality players to at least have a little shout on the PL/CL next season.

Really don't want this transfer to happen - not even on a free.
He would have to be spectacularly shit to be worse than Depay, Falcao, and Di Maria. Three recent transfers that the Caf was unanimously happy with.
 
I'm sure there are people who have watched him more but my thoughts on him:

Offers pace and natural width on the left rather than cutting inside which is a positive for me as we lack that right now. He's two footed so has ability on the right side as well. Crossing ability is fairly good. He's got all the qualities but he's erratic.

If it's true (big if for me), then I'm surprised.

PS. People need to get their shit together on here. We've just won a European trophy yet the meltdown over transfer business is incredible.
 
Peresic isn't top drawer with the ball?!

Excuse me but have people actually watched this guy at all? He WILL pose a threat to ANY defence in the world.

There are two things I like most about the idea of getting Peresic. One is that he fits in almost perfectly into Jose's idea of a winger (hard working attacking player who can also drop back to defend). The second is that, getting him indicates a plan to still give Martial a chance and believing that Mikhi will still come good.

We need some really good wide men and he is one. Moura is another one being rumoured. Costa is another. Frankly, they are all good enough for the next level we want especially if wingers like Neymar and Bale are unavailable or will cost you all your transfer budget.

Different people have their different preferences and that is fine. But what really counts is who the manager prefers, who is available, who wants to join us and what's the price? If you prefer Costa but United can't get him, what's the point? If they tried to get Moura but couldn't, what's the point? If Peresic is available, desperately wants to wear our badge, willing to take a lower salary and Jose loves him, why not? We have seen that age may not necessarily count against players in their late twenties in modern football. If his price is good and he can still give us four solid seasons, why not?
Obviously there's nothing wrong if he does well. If he's average then it's a problem. That's why there's a discussion because there are different viewpoints.
 
Wait, he's inconsistent at 28? I thought that was his forte?

If he was consistent, he would have been class. I don't know why people are so much against it. He isn't flashy,sexy to watch but he is a good effective player. The Ashley Young comparisons are weird. The season before last he was very good and followed it up with a very good euros. And when we signed up for Mourinho, we knew the kind of players he likes and thus it's even more surprising people are gobsmacked by the link. If he was a bit younger and cheaper, I wouldn't even get into a discussion whether we should get him. Fast, two footed, scores and assists and a gritty bastard.
 
If he was consistent, he would have been class. I don't know why people are so much against it. He isn't flashy,sexy to watch but he is a good effective player. The Ashley Young comparisons are weird. The season before last he was very good and followed it up with a very good euros. And when we signed up for Mourinho, we knew the kind of players he likes and thus it's even more surprising people are gobsmacked by the link. If he was a bit younger and cheaper, I wouldn't even get into a discussion whether we should get him. Fast, two footed, scores and assists and a gritty bastard.
Yeah so he's not consistent and not class at the age of 28. Bit of a worry given we already have players with loads of ability like martial and Mkhitarian who are younger, have lots of ability and are inconsistent (at least for us). I expect an inconsistent player when we sign a 22 years old not a 28 year old.
 
Perisic is a "proper winger" - i.e. One who is actually happy playing out wide - something we are severely lacking at the moment - this would give our team more width and allow more space for our central players to attack.
 
Given the descriptions we'd have sign a centre forward to compliment him surely? Unless we're super confident of Ibra having a future here and being absolutely ready on day 1 of next season.
 
Yeah so he's not consistent and not class at the age of 28. Bit of a worry given we already have players with loads of ability like martial and Mkhitarian who are younger, have lots of ability and are inconsistent (at least for us). I expect an inconsistent player when we sign a 22 years old not a 28 year old.
Maybe it's not just about him but about the players around him. In a right circumstances he could shine, for instance with a new striker and Griezmann. :)
 
Typical Mourinho transfer. Rather big and physical. High work rate and rather quick. Follow instructions to the beat and is not injury prone. Guess the trip to meet them in mars was for real. A done deal. His part of the list Ed has had since april. Obvious now.

Must have been a long fecking trip that.
 
Not surprising given the way we've set up this season. Jose has taken to Lingard big time and even after the Ajax he called it a victory for people who "believe in respecting opposition and nullifying their weaknesses". This appears in line with that.

It's just all a bit dull and unnecessary for a club of our resources. The general feeling in this thread about this player is rather sad. At best he appears to be effective and the general feeling is that he's not really got the ability to be a top player.

Dont worry, This was specific to one game.
 
Yeah so he's not consistent and not class at the age of 28. Bit of a worry given we already have players with loads of ability like martial and Mkhitarian who are younger, have lots of ability and are inconsistent (at least for us). I expect an inconsistent player when we sign a 22 years old not a 28 year old.

Important distinction being Perisic is more suited to how Jose wants his players to be. You never know he might just find that consistency under him. Players with seemingly more flashy ability have struggled under Mourinho because some players work best under certain style. And even being inconsistent Perisic probably has like 10-10 goals assists.
 
Seems an awful high price for a 28 year old, who doesn't seem to be a major player from reading up on his career.
 
Pretty happy with this.

He can use both feet, he has pace and a trick and can cross the ball.

From watching him in the Euro's last year as well, he's not shy about getting back and helping his full back defend either.

I know we could get probably get better players for the money, but are they players that would necessarily fit into Jose's system?

He's had a season to see what he needs and I trust that he's bringing in the right players.
 
Obviously there's nothing wrong if he does well. If he's average then it's a problem. That's why there's a discussion because there are different viewpoints.

He is NOT average. Gosh!

Inter is my favourite team in Italy. I watch a fairly sizeable amount of their games every season. Please, let people go and watch him before concluding. Pace, energy and good football brain. People should go and watch the Euros again. He tore teams apart.

He has his off periods like any other player, especially when you are in a not so good team but check out his career as a whole, he is a very dangerous attacking player. So easy to see why Jose wants him.

I think he will bring out the beast in Anthony Martial if there is one in there.
 
Important distinction being Perisic is more suited to how Jose wants his players to be. You never know he might just find that consistency under him. Players with seemingly more flashy ability have struggled under Mourinho because some players work best under certain style. And even being inconsistent Perisic probably has like 10-10 goals assists.
Well yeah you never know what happens in any case. Maybe martial will score 20 goals next season. But we can draw our own judgement based on what the past has suggested. And flashy player or not, inconsistency at the age of 28 is a worry with respect to potential signing.

And also, by all mean bring on all the flashy signings. It's almost being seen as a negative by some to be a skillfull player as if that leads to ineffectiveness. It's not like they don't work in Jose's system btw. If you manage a top club top aspirations you need players with flair. Conte's system has not been super exciting and his players work hard enough but along with the work horses you also need the class.
 
Funny to think that we are kicking off about signing him, but transposing his productivity from Inter to us he would have been our second to top scorer (obviously it doesn't work like that- but for the sake of argument) and our top scorer by a long distance is 35 and has a long term injury.

I'm not saying that he is an exciting signing, but he is quick, quite physical, hard working and moderately productive and at 28 he isn't a project. £40m is too much but obviously Inter aren't idiots, they can see the position we are in and don't want to sell one of their best players for less than they can wrestle out of us.
 
He is NOT average. Gosh!

Inter is my favourite team in Italy. I watch a fairly sizeable amount of their games every season. Please, let people go and watch him before concluding. Pace, energy and good football brain. People should go and watch the Euros again. He tore teams apart.

He has his off periods like any other player, especially when you are in a not so good team but check out his career as a whole, he is a very dangerous attacking player. So easy to see why Jose wants him.

I think he will bring out the beast in Anthony Martial if there is one in there.
I didn't say he was average. I said he could be average next season just as he could be effective. Neither is a given which is why there is a mix of optimism and negativity (more negative of course). We've had players look dangerous for other clubs be average for us, before.

Also how do you think he's the player to bring the best out of martial?
 
Obviously there's nothing wrong if he does well. If he's average then it's a problem. That's why there's a discussion because there are different viewpoints.

Is manzukic Average for a juventus side on the wing? May be May be not, But he provides the right balance. That's what We would be looking for.
 
Not surprising given the way we've set up this season. Jose has taken to Lingard big time and even after the Ajax he called it a victory for people who "believe in respecting opposition and nullifying their weaknesses". This appears in line with that.

It's just all a bit dull and unnecessary for a club of our resources. The general feeling in this thread about this player is rather sad. At best he appears to be effective and the general feeling is that he's not really got the ability to be a top player.

Well, he's a considerable upgrade on Lingard but yeah, I was hoping for more. Lets see though, Mourinho is generally spot on with identifying weaknesses in the squad and fixing them so here's to hoping Perisic hits new heights with us if he's coming here.
 
He is NOT average. Gosh!

Inter is my favourite team in Italy. I watch a fairly sizeable amount of their games every season. Please, let people go and watch him before concluding. Pace, energy and good football brain. People should go and watch the Euros again. He tore teams apart.

He has his off periods like any other player, especially when you are in a not so good team but check out his career as a whole, he is a very dangerous attacking player. So easy to see why Jose wants him.

I think he will bring out the beast in Anthony Martial if there is one in there.

I agree, apart from the asking price there isn't much negative about this transfer. He is very quick and also can use both feet which is superb quality to have for attacker.
 
Would be a very good acquisition IMHO, works very well in a 4-4-2 and as others have pointed out, has the profile of a Mou player. Expectations should be in line with why he is likely being targeted (as a specialist) and should fill that role well.

Premiership should fit him well too as he will be able to get behind defenses, consistently - will be up to others to convert
 
I don't see why we need to believe the price. By all counts it is Inter's asking price in the same way Everton want £100m for Lukaku--it's not what we will pay as it's not a release clause situation.

The move makes sense to me as this season we have chopped and changed at LW and no one has really performed. It would be a bigger gamble to rely on the kids coming good next season, so getting an older winger to show them how it's done and mentor them makes sense. The guy had a good Euros and good season, and is an actual winger and not a wannabe CF. We can't spend top dollar on the world's best in this position. Hopefully Martial learns from him and recovers his form in which case they'll be rotated based on tactical needs and form. I do think we are in for him but the final price will be much more reasonable than what is being suggested.
 
Is manzukic Average for a juventus side on the wing? May be May be not, But he provides the right balance. That's what We would be looking for.
What balance would this guy provide in your mind? Juve are the dominant force in Italy and have a ready strike force in Dybala and Higuin, and a track record or recent successes. We are pathetic infront of goal and very good defensively. We surely need more quality/cohesion in attack that balance from what I can see.

Maybe this guy gives something were missing. feck knows. But personally I'd like to see more players like Sane and Mane brought to the club this summer. No idea if this guy has that sort or quality.
 
I don't see why we need to believe the price. By all counts it is Inter's asking price in the same way Everton want £100m for Lukaku--it's not what we will pay as it's not a release clause situation.

The move makes sense to me as this season we have chopped and changed at LW and no one has really performed. It would be a bigger gamble to rely on the kids coming good next season, so getting an older winger to show them how it's done and mentor them makes sense. The guy had a good Euros and good season, and is an actual winger and not a wannabe CF. We can't spend top dollar on the world's best in this position. Hopefully Martial learns from him and recovers his form in which case they'll be rotated based on tactical needs and form. I do think we are in for him but the final price will be much more reasonable than what is being suggested.

Matteo Pedrosi tweeted saying Inter's asking price is 50 Million and we have verbal agreement with the player. ManUtd haven't tabled a bid as they think asking price is too much. So this might drag for few days
 
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