Ivan Perisic

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See this is what it boils down to isn't it. I bet the majority of people moaning haven't even watched inter Milan this season, but because he's not a young flavour of the month player like Silva or Fabinho, he's automatically not good enough.

That's a lazy cop out to every opinion that has seen plenty of him and that thinks he isn't good enough, and all this shiny toy stuff is also cheap and lazy, Peresic is bang average, him not being a fancy name has nothing to do with it, if this was all we wanted then go and get Demarai Gray, not flash but offers the same, is homegrown, cheaper and with room to progress.
 
I dont think people would cry if we bought him for 15m or 20m. He seems happy to go and Inter seem happy to sell, even for that price i would say they wouldnt be crying. But 36m + add ons is a decent chunk out of our transfer budget and we could spend the money more wisely. If you add Griezmann, thats probably more than half of our transfer budget and we have another 2-4 positions to improve on.

And i hate the stereotype about this transfer. 'Perisic is a Mourinho player' and 'Silva suits Pep better'. Nothing sucks more than knowing what shite we will get served next season if we go this route already. One thing is to play shit with what you got and one thing is to spend the money badly and still play bad against decent sides
 
Rumours of Perisic,
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£40 mil Moise Kean,
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See this is what it boils down to isn't it. I bet the majority of people moaning haven't even watched inter Milan this season, but because he's not a young flavour of the month player like Silva or Fabinho, he's automatically not good enough.
It's more to do with the fact that Bernardo has a higher ceiling and at 22 years old is already a much better player. I get Mourinho wants average players that can graft but when City sign genuine quality it's a bit of a let down if we get Perisic.
 
You would think we just offered 40m for Heskey if you got your news from the pantwetting lot on here.

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I do get why people are down about this guy. He seems very average, we've got a team full of average. Blind, Young, Lingard, Jones, Smalling... etc. That's why we're 6th. If we want to win the league we have to buy players better than the ones our opponents have. The Croatian Oxlade Chamberlain isn't going to get us there.
 
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I rather we go out for Mahrez with the money being touted. Have a feeling if it indeed materializes, he will be first to receive Mourinho treatment as he turns out to be very frustrating player with little end product. He's not the type of player to beat two or three players and provide a good cross on top of that, since being supported by Darmian on his side he will be expected to do just that.
 
I'd be keen to have the names of these players. Just curious...

Too long a list to produce. I'll focus on just wingers and only during his latest tenure at Chelsea... Cuadrado, Schurrle, Salah, Atsu. I'd argue Pedro too, since he wasn't suited to what JM expects from his wingers and was hugely disappointing with him in charge.
 
Didn't know he's left footed, it's been yeas since we've had a natural lefty stretching play on the left wing. Martial goes on the outside sometimes, (see Rooney's goal against Spurs) but it's not his natural game. Maybe Mourinho wants to add that extra dimension to the squad.
 
I dont think people would cry if we bought him for 15m or 20m. He seems happy to go and Inter seem happy to sell, even for that price i would say they wouldnt be crying. But 36m + add ons is a decent chunk out of our transfer budget and we could spend the money more wisely. If you add Griezmann, thats probably more than half of our transfer budget and we have another 2-4 positions to improve on

There isn't a single person on here who knows what Manchester United's transfer 'budget' is. Not one person.

Don't get het up about money that isn't yours.
 
I rather we go out for Mahrez with the money being touted. Have a feeling if it indeed materializes, he will be first to receive Mourinho treatment as he turns out to be very frustrating player with little end product. He's not the type of player to beat two or three players and provide a good cross on top of that, since being supported by Darmian on his side he will be expected to do just that.
What's with this latest obsession of wanting players who can beat a man? Martial can do that and he's still shite.
 
Too long a list to produce. I'll focus on just wingers and only during his latest tenure at Chelsea... Cuadrado, Schurrle, Salah, Atsu. I'd argue Pedro too, since he wasn't suited to what JM expects from his wingers and was hugely disappointing with him in charge.

He's useless with flair players, Robben and Hazard both struggled with him as he wants them to be workhorses and focus on that as much as their main job of actually creating and scoring goals.
 
I'd be keen to have the names of these players. Just curious...
For my definition of wrong, I include players he has bought that he could not use effectively for his team. I'll just go with side players because the real list will be really long.
Shawn Wright Phillips, Quaresma, Coentrao, Drenthe, Pedro Leon, Schurrle, Salah, Cuadrado, Pedro, Rahman, Felipe Luis

Now before you say Pedro was a good signing, think how effective he was in Jose team. He wasn't a good signing for Jose and helped get him the sack. Much like Cuadrado, he has become effective under a different coaches tutelage and system.

This isn't to bash Jose, its just a reminder that he is pretty hit and miss with transfers.
 
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He's useless with flair players, Robben and Hazard both struggled with him as he wants them to be workhorses and focus on that as much as their main job of actually creating and scoring goals.

Tbf Hazard didn't struggle. He had his best season ever in 14/15 with Mourinho as manager. He got tired of it though and downed tools the year after.
 
Tbf Hazard didn't struggle. He had his best season ever in 14/15 with Mourinho as manager. He got tired of it though and downed tools the year after.

Yeah, he lasted 1 season and then Jose broke him, look at him now under Conte who isn't using him as a dogsbody, Jose has already started this with Martial, breaking him down, it's why he likes Rashford and Lingard so much, they are willing to give up their game to serve is obsessions.
 
For those who are distraught over this, there are also other inter fans who are upset that Inter is not pushing higher:

I'd be pissed if we dont replace him with a better player. This dude will tear EPL apart. We should try to sell him for more than 45m

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The majority of the time he's saved our ass so I'm not going to hate on him given what he's done for most of the season.
Perisic would solve some of the scoring woes united have and dude is a machine.. Can see why mou would want him.
 
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What's with this latest obsession of wanting players who can beat a man? Martial can do that and he's still shite.
Yea, what's the fuss with Neymar or Messi. Well for starters our rigid set up requires such qualities in players, otherwise, we look very flat and struggle to progress up the pitch. What happens on most occasions when we play Lingard who's not blessed with such attributes? Exactly, not much.
 
For my definition of wrong, I include players he has bought that he could not use effectively for his team. I'll just go with side players because the real list will be really long.
Shawn Wright Phillips, Quaresma, Coentrao, Drenthe, Pedro Leon, Schurrle, Salah, Cuadrado, Pedro, Rahman, Felipe Luis

Now before you say Pedro was a good signing, think how effective he was in Jose team. He wasn't a good signing for Jose and helped get him the sack. Much like Cuadrado, he has become effective under a different coaches tutelage and system.

This isn't to bash Jose, its just a reminder that he is pretty hit and miss with transfers.
Coentrao was effective under Jose and was key to them winning la liga
 
Yeah, he lasted 1 season and then Jose broke him, look at him now under Conte who isn't using him as a dogsbody, Jose has already started this with Martial, breaking him down, it's why he likes Rashford and Lingard so much, they are willing to give up their game to serve is obsessions.

He even tried to do it with C.Ronaldo who told him to feck off. They ended up not talking to each other and JM still had to play him and let him do whatever he wanted because at RM Ronaldo was bigger than JM by a country mile.
 
Been watching his videos on Youtube and even though you cannot take them as proof of quality you sure as hell cant call him average from watching them. Basically he has been Fellainied already for a few typical Cafe reasons. Some Croatian poster didnt rate him oddly outside his national team appearances and that was enough for posters on here to build on calling the lad average. His stats have him comfortably above 7 for the entire season which would suggest he id a decent player. He seems like he can beat Italian defenders enough to get crosses in. So my theory is he isnt a sexy enough name for the naysayers on here and therefore he is labelled as average.

Stats here.

https://www.whoscored.com/Players/70524/Show/Ivan-Perisic
 
Juat watched 10 minute highlight clip and still wasn't impressed.

There's nothing to be excited about. He's a fast, tall and hard-working winger with decent dribbling ability, but one with poor decision making and delivery when in and around the box. His lack of crossing ability for a natural left footed LW is rather obvious.

That's a quick summary as a result of watching plenty of Serie A.
 
Was it the constantly beating the defenders you didnt like? Should he have blasted it at the oppositions legs more often?

This wasnt part of the plan. You should be against him, not defending him. Stick to the narrative please
 
For those who are distraught over this, there are also other inter fans who are upset that Inter is not pushing higher:



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They are delusional and don't grasp how different and difficult it is for even STAR Serie A players to translate that to the EPL. how could he fetch more than 45 mill at 29? did he score 26 goals like Griezmann?
 
For my definition of wrong, I include players he has bought that he could not use effectively for his team. I'll just go with side players because the real list will be really long.
Shawn Wright Phillips, Quaresma, Coentrao, Drenthe, Pedro Leon, Schurrle, Salah, Cuadrado, Pedro, Rahman, Felipe Luis

Now before you say Pedro was a good signing, think how effective he was in Jose team. He wasn't a good signing for Jose and helped get him the sack. Much like Cuadrado, he has become effective under a different coaches tutelage and system.

This isn't to bash Jose, its just a reminder that he is pretty hit and miss with transfers.

Ah, okay. Wasn't planning on being dismissive, was genuinely curious.

In some of those cases, I guess it comes down to Mourinho not warming to the individual or indeed their personality and therefore not having the inclination to work closely with them.

But that's a wider debate about how players are scouted and the information you garner from your contacts in the game.
 
GDS apparently reporting that Inter want €50 million. It was tweeted by United report but I can't find original source. I did find this though, from April 6th. Imagine shelling out 60 million Euro for him!

Manchester United does seriously - ready 60 million euros for Ivan Perisic. Mourinho has been clear with his property: the team needs to be strengthened if they want to compete with the other Premier's battleships. And one of José's priorities is precisely the 28-year-old offensive offensive of Inter.
 
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