Christ, wasn't Nani named Player of the year once, by his United peers? You talk like Nani had a career like Bébé, Januzaj or something. Plenty of important United players in the past have been sold for low fees. Does that make people neglect their careers on a whole? Nani wasn't Ronaldo but he has nothing to be ashamed of concerning his United career. He did well.
Ivan Perisic
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Christ, wasn't Nani named Player of the year once, by his United peers? You talk like Nani had a career like Bébé, Januzaj or something. Plenty of important United players in the past have been sold for low fees. Does that make people neglect their careers on a whole? Nani wasn't Ronaldo but he has nothing to be ashamed of concerning his United career. He did well.
Changing your goalposts now I see.
He was good for a period but his inconsistencies crept back into his game. I was actually a big fan when he first came but after a period of time it was pretty clear he was gonna be moved on. Not denying he was talented though
People arguing about Nani 
Yes he was a good player for us. Great player to watch when he was on it. For some reason he reached a point where he'd look like a World beater in one game, then be dreadful for weeks. He also cried after getting tackled by Carragher and cutting his leg a bit. For whatever reason, we saw relatively little of him after that. And this is under Fergie. All beside the point...
Perisic seems a bit of a meh signing on the surface (particularly for the cash involved), but it's about the qualities a player can bring to the team. No, he doesn't have the flair and technical talents of prime Nani, but we're seriously lacking someone to patrol the left flank, who can constantly beat his man and carry the ball forward with pace. Someone who keeps his head up and won't get bullied. At this point, that player's not Martial (let's face it), and folks would go ape if we went into the season with Lingard/Rashford as the only other options there.
The money involved is the only thing that really makes it appear a truly bad signing, but there's little we can do about that. He fits the bill, has the attributes the team as a whole is lacking. His age is also an advantage in a way, as once the first team is balanced and up and running, we can concentrate on bringing the younger players through properly without overloading them with pressure and millions of games.
I personally won't complain if this happens, but will wince at the price if he flops.
Yes he was a good player for us. Great player to watch when he was on it. For some reason he reached a point where he'd look like a World beater in one game, then be dreadful for weeks. He also cried after getting tackled by Carragher and cutting his leg a bit. For whatever reason, we saw relatively little of him after that. And this is under Fergie. All beside the point...
Perisic seems a bit of a meh signing on the surface (particularly for the cash involved), but it's about the qualities a player can bring to the team. No, he doesn't have the flair and technical talents of prime Nani, but we're seriously lacking someone to patrol the left flank, who can constantly beat his man and carry the ball forward with pace. Someone who keeps his head up and won't get bullied. At this point, that player's not Martial (let's face it), and folks would go ape if we went into the season with Lingard/Rashford as the only other options there.
The money involved is the only thing that really makes it appear a truly bad signing, but there's little we can do about that. He fits the bill, has the attributes the team as a whole is lacking. His age is also an advantage in a way, as once the first team is balanced and up and running, we can concentrate on bringing the younger players through properly without overloading them with pressure and millions of games.
I personally won't complain if this happens, but will wince at the price if he flops.
Nope, more that Perisic seems to be still highly regarded by Mourinho and reportedly Conte being 28 years old.
I've also seen this kinda reasoning by many posters and I honestly find it weird. Jose has had good and atrocious purchaes throughout his entire career, what makes some of our posters just blindly assume that Perisic will work fantastically because he is wanted by him is a bit baffling to me.
If he signed, I wish him the best and to prove his doubters (me included) wrong, just like I keep wishing Fellaini would suddenly transfrom into the best CM in the world
Mourinho has been given the job, so we should want him to have all the tools he desires at his disposal whether the we like it or not. It's fine to voice your displeasure but I back him because he knows what's required to win the league.I've also seen this kinda reasoning by many posters and I honestly find it weird. Jose has had good and atrocious purchaes throughout his entire career, what makes some of our posters just blindly assume that Perisic will work fantastically because he is wanted by him is a bit baffling to me.
If he signed, I wish him the best and to prove his doubters (me included) wrong, just like I keep wishing Fellaini would suddenly transfrom into the best CM in the world
I've also seen this kinda reasoning by many posters and I honestly find it weird. Jose has had good and atrocious purchaes throughout his entire career, what makes some of our posters just blindly assume that Perisic will work fantastically because he is wanted by him is a bit baffling to me.
If he signed, I wish him the best and to prove his doubters (me included) wrong, just like I keep wishing Fellaini would suddenly transfrom into the best CM in the world
I personally don't think he's any better than Martial. Different type of winger sure but not really an improvement. Sort of like Ashley Young when we signed him from Villa. Will do a good job but does he have the quality to make a difference on a consistent basis??
No we shouldn't necessarily have to do that, Moyes was given the job too at some point and he wanted and did bring Fellaini, are you gonna tell you were ok with that ?? Just because he's our manager, doesn't mean we have to stupidly agree with everything he does. Once the decisions are definitive (the player is signed), only then can we show support with the option of criticizing fairly.
Same for me. Ideally I'd want us to sign players to get else closer to the teams better than us in England and then in Europe. I'm sorry but I just don't see it with Perisic, maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm right. Time will tell. It's just funny that his fans and Mourinho's fans, don't even wanna entertain the idea that some aren't thrilled by the possibility of signing this player.
If this guy is unveiled tomorrow and Matic completes too will it forever more be known as 'Mediocre Monday'?
Not if they play well.
Or Magic Monday... who knows.
I never wanted Moyes due to the fact he didn't have the C.V for the job.
Mourinho is the manager and 'knows' the path that needs to be taken to win the league. I would say he probably has a better idea than most. If we don't give him the tools he requires then get rid of him. SAF bought Valencia, Young etc and I wasn't particularly enamoured by the signings but you have to back the manager especially one that has been there and done it.
The manager will be backed regardless, whether the players arrive or not. If I don't want a specific player, doesn't mean I don't want the team to succeed, even if the managers thinks he needs that players. I have the same logic, whether it's Moyes, SAF, Mourinho.
Under SAF we were linked and signed plenty of players I never appreciated as footballers but once they were there, I hoped for the best.
Couldn't agree more
He Said that 50m should get tier1 players OR young players with potential like how atletico Dortmund and Monaco do. Then posts how is it that atletico Dortmund and Monaco always get it right.
Can't be talking about tier 1 players because who is the last tier1 player any of these teams bought? Falcao?
Every time this thread is bumped I'm hoping to see a leaked photo of Perisic wearing our training kit.
They don't tbh, they make them. When they buy (for a lot less than United), they tend to get players performing better than the ones bought expensively by United. That is for me the most annoying thing, with the money we spend every summer, the team should be better.
Jesus fecking christ take a day off. I did read the thread and took issue with you adopting a condescending tone towards someone for no reason whatsoever. Players peak at different points in their careers. Perisic is in his right now, Nani's was about 5/6 years ago.
When this thread is bumped I hope to see Perisic signing a new contract with Inter.
How much do Inter want?
I'm quietly hoping that we have this one ready to push the button on at will, but are monitoring the Bale scenario.
Because at them clubs they get more chances in the first team hence younger players having a preference to develop their game in such an environment. Ousmane Dembele being one example.
But having said that I think we should've done more in the past to bring in more elite level youngsters. Hopefully that will change, with how things are shaping up now.
I think you're the one who needs to take a day off. You seem to be riled up pal.
You know, Conte just recently pointed his finger at Tottenham & said something along the line that a club like Tottenham has different kind of expectation. A European football qualification spot is an achievement when clubs who truly aim to win, need to spend big &I have some sense of short term gain also. SAF had the balance right but arguably it took him awhile to build the foundation that eventually allowed him the breathing space. You don't expect big clubs to take punt on majority of their signings WHEN they need to build the core of the team.
We know Conte showed that he's also a hypocrite here just like other since not long ago he had a dig at us & City spending more last summer to achieve less. (Title) Winner has the temporary right to get on high horse & said those thing. Point is he is not wrong in the point regarding expectation of club who qualify for Europe football is an achievement while winning nothing.
As for us we did bring in 4 young(er) players with potential under Mourinho (Pogba, Lukaku, Lindelof Bailly). IMO some more experienced players short term fix players should be welcomed to balance thing out.
48m GBP apparently.
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The guy doesn't really want to be there. Haha
Pay the 48m they want, we are desperate for a real winger. So sick and tired of seeing these #10's posturing as wide players.
Will also be useful in the 3-5-2 as a LWB, Jose seems to fancy that formation this pre-season.
Will also be useful in the 3-5-2 as a LWB, Jose seems to fancy that formation this pre-season.
I think tis one is dead which is worrying as we don't seem linked to any other winger....and we badly, badly need something fresh on the wings.
We need him. Our team has no width whatsoever.
I've also seen this kinda reasoning by many posters and I honestly find it weird. Jose has had good and atrocious purchaes throughout his entire career, what makes some of our posters just blindly assume that Perisic will work fantastically because he is wanted by him is a bit baffling to me.
If he signed, I wish him the best and to prove his doubters (me included) wrong, just like I keep wishing Fellaini would suddenly transfrom into the best CM in the world
Interesting thing is that Jose's dealings in the transfer market is one of his strongest attributes as a manager. He has had only very few misses in the market throughout his career. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying he has not bought a handful of players who did not succeed under his management but if you study them carefully, it is often not because they are poor players but some other factors led to their flopping. For instance, Salah was never a poor player, neither was Caudrado, Falcao, Coentrao or Schurlle. Of course there were a few you could categorize as poor footballers in top level football context but they were not many considering the number of hits Jose has had in the transfer market.
So, those who are saying they will relax just because a player is Jose's choice, actually don't sound silly. There are many baggages you get with him but when it comes to building winning teams, Jose is really good at doing that.
The players don't have to be "poor players" for Jose to be mistakes about them once they are at the club. Buying a good player is easy, using him right is another matter altogether. Mourinho is a human being, I just don't like this "get behind the manager's decisions no matter what" mentality. We can think some of his decisions seem dodgy.
Perisic's supposed experience is what ? I have no clue but surely he cannot be more experienced than what we have. Does he have much more CL than the rest of the Utd players ? Does he have an experience in the PL ? Is he used to playing for a big club with big pressure ? Those are all genuine questions and rhetorical ones.
I see that when a player is close to 30years old, he is supposed to have experience but experience in what exactly ? What can his experience add that we don't have ?
Using a player correctly is a totally different subject and surely, he scores high in that regard doesn't he?
I get it, Jose is not always right when it comes to buying players. Nobody is. I was just trying to make the point that those who say they will relax because a particular targeted player is his choice, have a solid basis for their position considering his track record. This doesn't mean that anyone with a contrary opinion is automatically wrong. Not at all.
He's experienced as winger. For international football which is another test, he is more experienced than even Mata & Micki for the obvious reason the other couldn't make in to the tournament or get play time. For club European football, while he did have plenty of experience.
There are players who can enter a good level in their prime while doesn't enjoy long good level career. Milito comes to mind. Not exactly having any experience dealing with big pressure but it didn't hinder him one bit at his prime playing for Inter. Perisic seems to be in this category since for those who watch him play the last few years, he's transformed from the one in bundesliga, majority find familiar.
How many people have watched Perisic on a somewhat consistent basis in SerieA?
I've seen a fair bit of this guy (mainly in highlights) and he is a player who easily divides opinion. He's not super quick, but not slow, not super-skilful but 2-footed and good technique, strong with good stamina. He's consistent, he's even decent in the air. Can't put my finger on why he doesn't really excite me as a potential signing. I can't imagine him playing badly or anything I can put my finger on, maybe I'm suffering from a 'football manager moment' and it's an age thing, or the idea that we could get a young exciting winger for the money? Or maybe (more likely) I just want to see Martial kick on this season and maybe make the left flank his own. Ever since Giggs/Ronaldo on the left it's become even more a 'thing'. Nothing better than a quick skilful winger with huge potential.
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