Ivan Perisic

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K2K said:
Neither is he world class though.

Fellaini offers us something we don't have in the team too.Thats a poor argument that doesn't really say much.

Perisic at no point in his career has shown that he is the kind of player to take teams from perennial also rans like us to title winners.

The only way we are winning titles us if are our truly world class players like Pogba really step it up.
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Fellaini offers something we don't want. Perisic offers something we're in desperate need of. There's difference here.
 
Womp said:
Can we please stop with this nonsense that Perisic is average. He might be underwhelming if you were expecting us to sign fecking Neymar, but he's a very good winger who will offer us things we don't currently have in the team.
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Although different players, but almost signing Griezmann and ending up with Perisic instead is part of the issue some are having I think. We have signed some big names the last few windows and last summer was great.

Not seen much of Perisic but it looks as though he'd offer us something we are lacking on the wing.
 
LoneStar said:
Klopp has done nothing to be even compared to the other two in terms of trophies. While Pep has been amazing at Barca and good at Bayern, I can never imagine Pep winning the Champions League with Porto or Inter. Jose has proven himself at the highest level in so many clubs.

But yeah, he doesn't seem to have that charm that the old Mourinho had. Most of the times he looks sad and depressed. I think it's a confidence issue, if he wins something big, the old Jose will hopefully be back.

But his transfers have always been and remain spot on. The players he buys during his second season always end up having a major impact. You only have to look at his second season with Chelsea mk2. He bought Matic in January and bought Costa and Fabregas, who were all instrumental for the title. Even last season, the 4 players he bought were very good. With Pogba, Baily and Mikhi, we are set for another few seasons in those positions.
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Felipe Luis, Cuadrado, Remy, Salah

£80 million success , £61 million miss
 
Red Katie said:
Although different players, but almost signing Griezmann and ending up with Perisic instead is part of the issue some are having I think. We have signed some big names the last few windows and last summer was great.

Not seen much of Perisic but it looks as though he'd offer us something we are lacking on the wing.
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I don't think Griezmann would have stopped us signing Perisic, they're different players in different positions. Big names are great and all, but it doesn't necessarily mean they're better fits for us. See Di Maria, Falcao etc.
 
Womp said:
I don't think Griezmann would have stopped us signing Perisic, they're different players in different positions. Big names are great and all, but it doesn't necessarily mean they're better fits for us. See Di Maria, Falcao etc.
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Agree that Perisic is a player Mourinho wanted even if he signed Griezmann.
 
Womp said:
The market has changed from last season, that much is obvious. We've got 18 year old kids with half a season of senior experience being touted around for 140+, I don't think we'd have been able to got Micky T for the same price in this window.

United are negotiating, which it is in their right to do, we don't know the details of what's going on. They could be holding out on the Perisic deal as they could be looking at other targets, or they simply might just be trying to lower the value (which all clubs bar the Arab funded clubs would do).

I don't doubt Mkhitryan's credentials before coming, but your claim was he didn't look like the player who could lead a team to a title, Mkhitryan didn't look that player either, especially with Bayern's continued dominance.

He absolutely could come to United and fail, just as any other player could, there's risk involved in every transfer. PSG could buy Neymar for 220+million, he could snap his leg in half and they'd look pretty fecked then. Also, I doubt 50 million would be considered a 'disaster', we're rich as feck, that's probably a minor dent in our transfer budget for the window, let alone a dent in our overall funds.

Lastly, no-one is claiming he's better. I simply said he's a good player and hardly average as the majority in here would make you believe. If what he has in his locker is what Jose thinks he needs to get a functioning team, then so be it. People are allowed to discuss as they please obviously, whether or not they want him etc. but claiming he's a bad or average player is just wrong.
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The problem is that unlike those hypothethical players, he has had chances like this before and failed. And 50m on a 28 year old with very little resell value is a disaster. No two ways about it. Especially if he fails.
 
giorno said:
No, you spent €42M for Micky. Who had all of one great season in his career, was on the last year of his contract and wanted united no matter what
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That's what Dortmund briefed the media and United briefed the media that he cost £26m. I think the €42m was more to save face by Dortmund, same way Bayern briefed the media that Schweini cost €20m, when it was later revealed that he cost about €9m.
 
giorno said:
No, you spent €42M for Micky. Who had all of one great season in his career, was on the last year of his contract and wanted united no matter what

Inter are asking €50/55M for perisic. If tomorrow the exchange rate became 1 pound=€50/55M, perisic would cost you 1 pound
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Mkhitaryan two great seasons at Dortmund (in 3 years)

2015-2016 - 53 games, 23 goals, 32 assists
2013-2014 - 46 games, 13 goals, 10 assists

I think United's waiting game is hurting Inter. Soon enough they will have to decide to either keep an unhappy player or let him leave on our terms
 
Stacks said:
Felipe Luis, Cuadrado, Remy, Salah

£80 million success , £61 million miss
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That £80m success won them the league title. Also the same players contributed heavily to their last title too.

I just checked the numbers, and Chelsea recouped most of the transfer fee for all 3 players you mentioned. Also note that none of them were bought for big money.

While how Perisic might adapt to the PL is unknown, Matic is hardly a similar type of signing. He is premier league proven and was a starter in a team that won 2 of the last 3 titles.
 
Stacks said:
Felipe Luis, Cuadrado, Remy, Salah

£80 million success , £61 million miss
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To be fair, they were all very good players, they just couldn't get into the team ahead of some really outstanding performers. Also Salah was signed in 2013/14 (and was probably the only real flop of those four from my memory).
 

He's a very good player. Don't really blame Inter but this sucks.
 
If they were asking for Martial on loan as part of the deal (as reported), then we are certainly going to move on. No wonder Mourinho talks of 3 signings instead of 4 these days.
 
RikRuud said:
He's a great player and would be a great addition, however. I believe this is one of the players Mourinho is referring to when stating that the market is "crazy" at the moment. For about £5 million more we could test Dormunds resolve for Ousmane Dembèle. We are right for not paying £45 for Perisic.
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You realize that Dormund would charge at least 20 million more than what it would cost for Perisic right? You know this.

We are United.

Any other team would have gotten Perisic for 35 million. United has a 15 million tax for every player they try to get.

I watched Perisic vs Lyon and vs Bayern. I'd rather have him at left wing with Lukaku and Rashford on the front line than I would Martial. Pace, height, crossing AND defense. All things Perisic has over Martial at the left wing spot.

Martial is better with his feet on the ball but I haven't seen anything else.
 
xplatformjedi said:
I watched Perisic vs Lyon and vs Bayern. I'd rather have him at left wing with Lukaku and Rashford on the front line than I would Martial. Pace, height, crossing AND defense. All things Perisic has over Martial at the left wing spot.
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I watched him too. Very fast and fantastic crosses. However, I don't think he's as much as a replacement as he is a complement to what we should have on the left wing.

We need both Martial and Perisic.
 
If negotiations stopped a few weeks ago, then imo Ed has turned his attention to Bale. Probably after being given some sort of encouragement. Which obviously will be a waste of time.
 
Cant we just move on to another target and forget this guy. PL starts in 2 weeks surely we can get 2nd option
 
Not signing a player can never be a disaster ffs, get a grip.
 
haram said:
They think Martial is the answer to everything.
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Which I don't understand at all. He's proven almost nothing in the last season and is at best inconsistent. His mentality is a huge issue and relying on him this season could be disastrous. People are obsessed with youth here and it's completely blinding them to how poor Martial has actually been
 
The club can't stand still after the garbage offered from the wings last season. I happen to think Perisic would be a good signing with the way we play, Lukaku's aerial presence and Darmian offering nothing in term of keeping the width.

If the fee is too high I understand we should move on, but we've got to at least get out there and use the bloody scouting system we've invested in and do something.
 
Flytan said:
He's proven almost nothing in the last season and is at best inconsistent.
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He proved plenty the season before. It's nothing to do with youth -- Martial is a fantastic player and an even greater prospect that needs to be coached back into what we know he can deliver.
 
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