Ivan Perisic

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KM said:
People keep on making the most negative assumptions in their head for no reason. There's no way in hell that Martial is going to Inter in any permanent role. There's a miniscule chance of loan but Mourinho's comment yesterday suggest that he looks at Martial as a striker.
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Don't know but people here seem to to put a theory that Jose doesn't like Martial and not convinced of him. On the contrary, I think he recognizes his talents very well but wants him to improve his mentality on and off the pitch. Martial will stay and he'll fight for his place and have a good season hopefully. The club invested much in him no brainier he's going to have another chance to shine again.

Inter can ask what they want, doesn't mean we'll agree. They can ask for 200m for Perisic but it doesn't mean the deal will be concluded with that.
 
Rajma said:
If he really wants to join us he should throw a tantrum seeing that Inter are, essentially, trolling us at this stage with their demands. Otherwise, look elsewhere and stop this nonsense.
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There doesn't seem to be much 'elsewhere' around in his mold, though. Hence the apparent unwavering focus on getting him.
 
KM said:
People keep on making the most negative assumptions in their head for no reason. There's no way in hell that Martial is going to Inter in any permanent role. There's a miniscule chance of loan but Mourinho's comment yesterday suggest that he looks at Martial as a striker.
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It was already the case last summer. He described him as a different type of striker compared to Ibrahimovic.
 
Are people here actually concerned we swap Martial to get Perisic?

...yeah, maybe on Jupiter :wenger::lol:
 
Martial should be used as a central striker, did well last season in that role. As a winger he just gets passed by alot of the time but in the middle he had the pace, power and finishing ability to be deadly.
 
Martial on loan to inter with Perisic coming in would be best for all parties.

Martial ain't gonna kick on under Mou this season IMO. He'll waste another year of development and his value will plummet.
 
Will getting perisic mean that we won't be pursuing griezmann next summer
 
Player yes, but griezmann would occupy a similar position to what perisic might. Playing from the left with lukaku playing central
 
There is no way Martial is going. He's probably the 2nd choice striker after Lukaku in the team.
 
Infra-red said:
Not sure Mourinho would see it that way - he doesn't seem to rate Martial particularly highly. Wouldn't be the most surprising development if this kind of deal was done.
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What? Mourinho rates Martial as a special talent. He only had some questions regarding his commitment but even that was fixed later on in the season and Mourinho praised him for it.
 
VP89 said:
Everything you've said is purely subjective based on an evaluation from 2 seasons ago. There is as much evidence to suggest he'd struggle once more (or more so given he has struggled under Mourinho and opposition players handle him differently to his debut year).

Personally I don't buy the rationale that we should keep him and play him because he has lots of talent. There are many players who have ridiculous potential but their actual output isn't at the club's level yet. If we wish to accelerate that, he needs to develop, and if he is to develop I think he needs game time. Sadly, we are not in any position to waltz into next season and throw in similar levels of patience with him as last season (in fact, the patience with him wore off half way through last season). At our club you need to take the few chances you have, or you can get time elsewhere to develop and come back stronger. I don't think the latter suggestion should be shunned at.
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VP89 said:
Perisic in his worst season was still not as bad as Martial was last season though. And Perisic is coming off the back of a standout year who is likely to make a bigger impact positionally, given he's a natural winger which is clearly what Mourinho wants (specialist in the position and all that).

Also, can you please tell me which players pushing for first team starts performed worse than Martial last year? Let say in terms of goals/assists to minutes? I can hazard Lingard as a guess, but even if that's true he's a squad player at best and we wouldn't lose much by keeping him. Martial on the other hand needs gametime and we can't offer him much beyond a squad role going by last season (and throwing Perisic on top).
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In terms of assists Martial was as productive as Perisic last season, and the likelihood of Perisic outscoring him next year is pretty slim giving past records and their goalscoring ability. I had a look at their records over the last 3 seasons and it looks like this:

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Brwned said:
In terms of assists last season, Martial was as productive as Perisic and the likelihood of Perisic outscoring him next year is pretty slim giving past records and their goalscoring ability. In the last 3 seasons, it looks like this:

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Managed to involve this into a trump debate. That's a first. :lol:
 
Brwned said:
In terms of assists Martial was as productive as Perisic last season, and the likelihood of Perisic outscoring him next year is pretty slim giving past records and their goalscoring ability. I had a look at their records over the last 3 seasons and it looks like this:

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Good post - and noted that their output isn't different & Martial had a better first season.
 
Is dental health taken into consideration during a medical?

If so, I hope he needs a crown and a few fillings - should be enough to halt any move.
 
Brwned said:
In terms of assists Martial was as productive as Perisic last season, and the likelihood of Perisic outscoring him next year is pretty slim giving past records and their goalscoring ability. I had a look at their records over the last 3 seasons and it looks like this
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Which is far less flattering to Perisic, considering that would be from 25 to 28, a time where you'd expect a winger/forward to be in their peak.
 
Brwned said:
In terms of assists Martial was as productive as Perisic last season, and the likelihood of Perisic outscoring him next year is pretty slim giving past records and their goalscoring ability. I had a look at their records over the last 3 seasons and it looks like this:

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Why are you quoting a Trump thread post? :lol:
 
My bad - had it quoted from earlier! :D

DWelbz19 said:
Which is far less flattering to Perisic, considering that would be from 25 to 28, a time where you'd expect a winger/forward to be in their peak.
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Absolutely. It's easy to forget just how young Martial is. As a teenager he was threatening Arsenal in the CL for Monaco and scoring wondergoals against Liverpool on his debut. He's a special player. Perisic isn't.
 
When do people think this will get settled one way or another?

Papers said Ed stayed behind to wrap it up before joining the tour on Saturday (today)
 
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