We wont. There are plenty of other options which would give us the same what perisc gives for lower fee.
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We wont. There are plenty of other options which would give us the same what perisc gives for lower fee.
I don't want Martial to go. The only way this could work at all for me is if Inter give us 20 million and we get a buy back clause.
Looks like this is the only attacking player we are adding then. Mkhi, Mata, Martial, Pogba and Rashford better get their act together then this season because I just don't see this one signing making a huge difference.
Lukaku is replacing Zlatan. The one player that ideally we never needed to replace and wasn't the problem.
Lukaku is replacing Zlatan. The one player that ideally we never needed to replace and wasn't the problem.
You might be right. However, one can be forgiven for maybe wincing a little at the prospect of such a deal.
We are not desperate, wish we would just leave the negotiations and dont come back, like with Morata. Find another option
This deal is starting to take the same route of Morata's deal.
Now waiting for our smokescreen option.
Now waiting for our smokescreen option.
Leaked to prick up Wenger's ears for a Sanchez bid?
There will some fans that will still want this deal to happen like this
indeed
It's a ridiculous proposal, I'd hope we aren't even considering it. Hopefully this is all being fed from Inter's side as posturing.
Saw that on Reddit, is that referring to the fans who would back the manager/trust him regardless of his decisions?
No United fan I know would ever want that to happen.
Ducker mentioned a loan move, that I wouldn't consider to be so awful.
It's still a fecking stupid idea.
Given the lack of quality we've been linked to virtually the only outcome that sees us winning the league next season involves Martial hitting top form. Sending our talented players on loan to other clubs is daft.
I'm trying to convince myself it's not a shocking decision ok.
Absolute ridiculous idea, it essentially makes the Perisic deal pointless because we'd be down a winger/striker. I don't think Mourinho and Woodward would be so foolish, Probably Inter posturing. This has come from Italian sources right? It's likely Inter making it look like they're putting up a fight.
Offer Inter just shy of the fee they want and walk away if they don't accept.
Martial my arse.
Martial my arse.
I would send them Tuanzebe or Mensah on loan, provided they get plenty of game time. Think Mensah would be ideal. We need firepower, so i dont see why we should give up a talented attacker to replace him with Perisic.
As weird as it may seem, you are right.
Aye, it's the in-thing on here these days to say whatever the manager wants to do is automatically the correct decision.
In any case, there's no way this happens.
Seems like the type of deal Mourinho would do
This seems to be going no where. Boring now. Wanted Perisic here cause I am one of the few that rate him on here. But we should just move on now. On side note- maybe a good loan would be great for Martial cause he seems to struggle with his confidence and him sure being a starter for a season would benefit him and us in long run. But clearly we need signings first
I would scare them with an offer of £10m plus Lingard.
Not many.
Martial is an important player on our team. Letting him go to sign Perisic would not be a step forward. We need to add another player, not replace one of our current players. I highly doubt Mourinho would agree to such a move. It'd be incredibly stupid. 
If Mou agrees to that I'll be shocked.
Martial is an important player on our team. Letting him go to sign Perisic would not be a step forward. We need to add another player, not replace one of our current players. I highly doubt Mourinho would agree to such a move. It'd be incredibly stupid.
It's only not a step forward if you assume Perisic would add just as much value as Martial did last season. It's likely that's not the case though, and he'd add more. He's a natural winger, more mature in his career and experience and adds better value in end products in both goals and assists.
If Martial was warming the bench on many occasions last season, think how reduced his role could be if we sign Perisic on top. I'm not saying we should permanently replace Martial, but a loan the other way could benefit all parties particularly in the longer term. Martial can get the game time Perreira got last season and develop his game that much further.
I'd lose all support for Mou if he agreed to that quite shocking proposal from Inter.
How they have the gall to even propose that is incredible. Completely taking the piss if true.
How they have the gall to even propose that is incredible. Completely taking the piss if true.
I'm confident Martial will be more productive than last season, hence why I won't consider it a step up if we simply swap him for Perisic. Martial will receive game time, we'd be foolish not to. He's a great player with loads of talent that has already proven his ability to perform in the PL in his first season here. There's no need to sell him short now and compare his situation to that of Pereira. Thus, loaning him out is non-sense.
What works for me is if Martial would want to go to Inter is to loan him out. Make him sign an extension to his current deal, loan him out for 2 years to Inter and give them €30m in for Perisic.
I could live with that. I think Martial will play more with them than for us and it could help with unbolstering his potential. It could be a bit like how Chelsea handled the situation with Courtois.
Give it a day.
Everything you've said is purely subjective based on an evaluation from 2 seasons ago. There is as much evidence to suggest he'd struggle once more (or more so given he has struggled under Mourinho and opposition players handle him differently to his debut year).
Personally I don't buy the rationale that we should keep him and play him because he has lots of talent. There are many players who have ridiculous potential but their actual output isn't at the club's level yet. If we wish to accelerate that, he needs to develop, and if he is to develop I think he needs game time. Sadly, we are not in any position to waltz into next season and throw in similar levels of patience with him as last season (in fact, the patience with him wore off half way through last season). At our club you need to take the few chances you have, or you can get time elsewhere to develop and come back stronger. I don't think the latter suggestion should be shunned at.
He didn't play much under Mourinho last season. A young player like him should play as much as possible, a loan move may not be so daft if we can get something out of it that benefits us.
I'am opposed to loaning him out for the sake of loaning him out but if it can be used as a makeweight in a transfer for a player we want, I would find it a shrewd deal.
It's already started
If they wanted Rashford too some would be all for it.
Just like the predictions regarding the productivity of Perisic are subjective and speculative, given that last season was his best season and that he has clearly had several worse seasons.
Except, Martial's output wasn't even that poor compared to other wingers at our club. So there's no reason to claim as if playing him is purely a burden. We're not just playing him as some talented guy, we're playing him as a talented player who has proven to be productive in the league. Thus, there's no reason for a loan.
Considering how long we've been in for him this summer, I think this will happen. Doesn't seem like we're interested in any alternatives, maybe because of playing style specifically. Imagine this will be done pretty soonish, maybe by end of next week we'll hear talks of fee agreed etc
Perisic in his worst season was still not as bad as Martial was last season though. And Perisic is coming off the back of a standout year who is likely to make a bigger impact positionally, given he's a natural winger which is clearly what Mourinho wants (specialist in the position and all that).
Also, can you please tell me which players pushing for first team starts performed worse than Martial last year? Let say in terms of goals/assists to minutes? I can hazard Lingard as a guess, but even if that's true he's a squad player at best and we wouldn't lose much by keeping him. Martial on the other hand needs gametime and we can't offer him much beyond a squad role going by last season (and throwing Perisic on top).
Martial + 20m for Perisic
Feck OFF Inter
Feck OFF Inter
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