no worries man, it was my mates who support Chelsea who told me
Ivan Perisic
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That's such a mediocre post
No but seriously, how big difference is there between Morata and Lukaku really? Plus even Conte preferred Lukaku over Morata so maybe he isn't that bad.
Conte has worked with Morata so the fact he wanted Lukaku gives me hopeThat's such a mediocre post
No but seriously, how big difference is there between Morata and Lukaku really? Plus even Conte preferred Lukaku over Morata so maybe he isn't that bad.
Even Jose had...
I don't think Conte worked with Morata. Conte quit before the season started.
Conte resigned on 15th July, Morata was signed on 19th July.
that's correct. Still gives me hope that his preference was Lukaku. Maybe it was the fact he is "prem proven"
Great point regarding wages, however I think it won't apply in this instance. I think he'll demand high wages given his age and this being his last big move etc
Although having said that, Woody doesn't seem to bother too much about wages and agent fees anyway
Yeah, at least going by reports and Chelsea mouth piece Lukaku was first choice. If Morata was then it would have been all over Marca, that Chelsea wants Morata.
It's fans just moving the goalposts to suit the narrative because any signing will do, come next season you can bet he wants another 200 million. Our negotiation skills are has bad as a newbie poker player, inter know that and they know they could get more money out of this club
Interesting Italian article compiling information on the player's financial evaluation:
CIES Football Observatory value the player at €30,4m, using these criteria…
while Playratings €33,9m practically the same with these
adding that for Inter the fair value of the player is €22,6m, while, most importantly, in a four year contract for us and being a starter, for United an economically sound transfer would be at a maximum of €39,2m.
The end the article qualifying it as a normal overvaluation.
CIES Football Observatory value the player at €30,4m, using these criteria…
while Playratings €33,9m practically the same with these
adding that for Inter the fair value of the player is €22,6m, while, most importantly, in a four year contract for us and being a starter, for United an economically sound transfer would be at a maximum of €39,2m.
The end the article qualifying it as a normal overvaluation.
Interesting Italian article compiling information on the player's financial evaluation:
CIES Football Observatory value the player at €30,4m, using these criteria…
while Playratings €33,9m practically the same with these
adding that for Inter the fair value of the player is €22,6m, while, most importantly, in a four year contract for us and being a starter, for United an economically sound transfer would be at a maximum of €39,2m.
The end the article qualifying it as a normal overvaluation.
One of the worst site ever created on internet. Their observations/readings are awful.
Interesting, but Martial's better than Perišić at acceleration (18-16)? I really doubt it.
Which one? They are quoting other people in this, its just a compilation of other sites information.
Oh, ok. What about Playratings?
Many believe Perisic is an amazing dribbler and crosser. these stats suggest he is poor at them which was suspected by skeptics. It does't suggest he is very good technically at all with low cross and pass accuracy. Offensively there is no doubt Martial will end up a better player and I feel Perisic is more to sure us up defensively than offensively.
Never heard about it. Tbh these sites are all crap. How can they value a player? It depends on how important the said player is for the club. There is no fixed price for any player.
Oh, I see. You think these big financial guys just go by intuitions and not data when doing multiple millions business.
Douglas Costa or Ivan Perisic?
Oh, I see. You think these big financial guys just go by intuitions and not data when doing multiple millions business.
Do you think they check site like transfermarkt or playerrating and bid whatever it says? There will days of discussion with various parties before even making bids. When the selling club is ready to do business, they will name their price just like how Inter have named theirs.
Of course not, that wasn't what I was implying. They must do their own hardcore financial analysis even before approaching a player or club. Just posted it here like backup data to most fans hunch of him being largely overvalued.
Why is that even a question? Costa any day of the week.
Yeah they might but end of the day all the analysis counts for nothing. It's always the selling club that sets the price.
For example there were many reports that Bayern are ready to sell Costa for 35 Million, in the end he was sold for that price.
Because both are currently available and we are choosing the lesser player by all accounts. Seems weird.
You should pitch that idea to other business where there's buying and selling, I think you're might be on to something.
It was a rhetorical question.
He will be a success here, lets just pay out and have done with it.
Not sure what your point is anymore.
Buying club won't bid a random number, they will get ball park figure from the agents.
Redcafe v Jose
Both are pretty same. Costa is overrated
Anyways this might interest you.
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...te-cost-transfer-market-leicester-southampton
the £38m 16 yr old?
Like he was in Germany, or all the other wingers that came after decent seasons in Serie A? enlighten me as to why he will be a success???? let me start you off - he'll give us proper width for the 1st time in our club's history, he can use both feet (not very well), he can beat a man (not very well), he is a typical winger (the best sides don't use those), he will track back, Jose wants him.....any more?
Not the details that matters, is it. The minutes he played!
Don't think it's as obvious as that. If Bayern rated Costa so much they wouldn't be so willing to offload him.
Thanks, it's interesting. “Although the availability of data has grown exponentially in the last 20 years, the process of valuing a player remains a combination of hard and soft data.” I was initially providing some hard data you said didn't matter at all. My point wasn't it was the only thing that mattered, just that surely a financial analysis of deals was being made. After all, United are run by Americans, who are top at that.
Lets buy that shiny player whom Bayern are selling on cheap. Surely nothing can go wrong by doing that.
Thank you.
Perisic is the better player and has more to his game. Costa is one dimensional -all bump past your man and whip in a cross- and he is pretty inconsistent(you can say that for every winger but Costa is as inconsistent as they come). Don't let the fact that he plays for Bayern make you think he is better. Age aside, i will take a 50m Perisic over a 40m Costa.
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