Precisely because Perišić is not the player Martial is meant to become will the French get a second chance. Makes total sense.
Ivan Perisic
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Yep, watching the inevitable spate of highlight videos that's popped up has reminded me how similar they are, stylistically.
Perisic is a player that Mourinho wants to form his new look squad for the season. My point about dining at the top table was in response to the unfair criticism Woodward is getting for actually shelling out big fees. Some people would be happy with a Ivan Gazidis in charge of transfers and a yes man like Wenger in charge.
Where exactly? In competition with Perisic on the left? Unless JM plans to drop Mkhitaryan, which I doubt more - I can see Perisic marginalising Martial more, which I'd be against as I don't think he's worth that.
Perisic seems alot quicker than Young ever was in my opinion and has actually performed well at a world cup.
I don't think anyone can lay much blame at Woodward as he's probably had his hand tied by José insisting that Perisic is the only target he wants.
What is Mourinho supposed to do? With Rashford as striker, he can't even rely on him to challenge Martial most of the time. Better buy an experienced and different winger than Martial to wake him up. It's not that Perišić is going to steal Martial's number again, like Zlatan. Besides, Perišić could also feature on the right, like Martial as forward, and all sorts of formations could allow both to play.
The fees bit is fair. I doubt that's the point of contention though. Ultimately, people want top players. Any issue around fees would be down to a certain approach stopping us from getting top players. Not the fact that people want a frivolous approach to signing the likes of Perisič.
This isn't a Woodward issue though. He's trying to do his job. JM has identified him, which has led to the confusion.
People just want to place blame in general nowadays when blame isn't even needed. We'll probably never know the total situation and have to rely on bits and pieces, which is still very much open to interpretation and spin.
Whoever we sign, it's obvious Jose wants/needs them and they wouldn't be considered if that wasn't the case. Whether or not they were priority 1 or 2, it really doesn't matter anymore once they sign.
I too suspect that Martial will be the one to suffer. I'll be surprised to see him deployed on the right alongside Valencia
I'm a huge fan of Martial but he needs to step up his game this coming season.
I'm not an expert on Perisic but my Serie A friends seem to rate him.
I'm not an expert on Perisic but my Serie A friends seem to rate him.
A different winger is one thing, a £50m one is being brought to play, and probably in his favoured position, where we have a more skilled player already.
He could play in other roles I agree, but he and Martial share the same default position.
He does. I think that was everyone's hope, but the fear now is that then opportunity won't be there to do it.
And I think everyone rates Perisic, just not as highly as Marrial is rated, which is kind of the point. You wonder what the point is, especially at the price.
If Perisic was being bought for £22m (which he should be in my opinion) he fear wouldn't be there that he's coming to replace Martial per se. At £50m, you have to imagine he would.
The same position Rashford played last year, etc. Those are last year's prices, they don't buy top team starters anymore, at least not for us. Besides, don't think Martial is more skilled than Perišić as the strict winger Mourinho might want, although probably yes as a wing-forward.
feck me he's nothing like Young. Young always turns on his right foot to whip the ball in. Perisic is as two footed as they come.
I agree with your last part. I said earlier, Perisic isn't good enough to be a wife man in a front three for me, more a traditional winger in a 4. Martial is the greater direct goal threat, more a winger/striker hybrid which you need there.
I also disagree that £50m is some sort of squad player rate now. I haven't seen anyone spend that kind of money on anyone not meant to be a key First XI player, and rightly so! That is still Chelsea's record signing's cost nearly 5 years later, and I'm sure City have just broken £50m once for KDB, who may we'll be their best player and one of the league's best. Perisic simply isn't worth it, and Inter probably can't believe their luck.
Still makes space for the cross in exactly the same way more often than not.
Exactly, it was only a couple of years ago that £50m was a crazy fee, even with current inflation it's still a significant amount of money and certainly not what clubs pay for squad players. Inter know they've hit the jackpot and are just waiting for that extra few million.
Having two good feet is a great advantage. The two centre backs can be left flat footed if you can turn a full back one way then open up a crossing opportunity on the other side. Perisic does that time and again.
Ashley Young has been a decent servant to the club but he's one dimentional as they get. Very easy to defend against. Perisic is not.
Perisic is definitely a better winger than Martial. He's a far more willing runner up and down the touchline and more unpredictable due to being two-footed. He will be one of the best wingers in the PL, if he manages to replicate his Inter form.
Martial is the better forward. He's better near the box, has more of an eye for goal. You just can't saddle him with running up and down the touch line and providing width like he's Giggsy. He is right footed and he will predictably want to cut inside more often than not. I feel he'd be better suited to a 2 striker system, like Mbappé at Monaco. Perisic was great last season and I don't think Martial can be that kind of winger.
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Completely agree with you, specially that Martial is better suited to a 2 striker system. With Griezmann, I was expecting that to happen, but with Lukaku, unless in some easier home games, can't see it.
Maybe because he's a fecking good player and the manager wants him. feck off with that 'genuine' fan shit.
Good post.
Don't forget Perisic is also a LOT better at crosses, and is arguably faster than Martial. (We tend to overrate Martial's pace)
Mmm, his crossing is not the greatest but the thing is he always creates more space for his crosses because defenders don't know which way he is going to go. He also has an enormous amount of involvement in the game. You know how we sometimes complain that Martial looks sluggish and not involved in the game. I've hardly ever seen a game like that for Perisic. He is very industrious, he is constantly making runs and is always on the move.
As a result, he receives the ball a lot in the final 3rd and puts a lot of balls in the box because he can always make space for a cross. A bad game for Perisic is one where he's put 10 balls in the box and doesn't find the strike once. He can be frustrating as feck like that, that's what the highlight reels won't show you, but you can't say he's not involved in the game. On another day he'll notch 2 assists off these crosses. If the striker is in tune with him he will get a lot of service.
As for being faster than Martial, it depends what we mean by faster. Perisic is pretty skinny and has better acceleration than Martial. But Martial is more muscular so I would expect faster top speed perhaps. That's what it seems like anyway. Acceleration is more useful than top speed when it comes to dribbling, though.
I dunno...he's tall and sculptured. Wouldn't rule him out in that regard.
Perisic just like Young
Perisic only being worth £25m
This place is truly delusional at times
Gonna love upping this thread once everyone realises that this guy is actually pretty damn good
Perisic only being worth £25m
This place is truly delusional at times
Gonna love upping this thread once everyone realises that this guy is actually pretty damn good
and if he is confirmed to be crap?
as usual the redcafe experts and pundits call perisic "europa league level" and "Like young". Perisic was better than Martial last year and hes supposed to be our best winger. Youre talking about Mourniho here, the man who wanted and got Lindlelof and Lukaku, and if we get Perisic for just over a half of what Lukaku cost then im fully confident hes going to thrive.
Now let me stop pretending like i havent watched Perisic consistently over the last season (Roommate is an Inter Milan fan), He'd be worth £40-46 million for me considering how bonkers inflation has made the prices. hes got all the attributes youd want in an out and out winger. Specialties: Pace, two footed so defenders cant read his movements perfectly, prefers passing than shooting, loves his skills and actually DOES them well (only uses them to get past a man) rather than a few of our players who try the flashy stuff and get tackled. Crosses into the box wel, almost like a catalyst on the edge of the box, not afraid to shoot and he does he hits them hard and not over. Tall, good physique, strong.
How in hell can this man fail in the Premier league? Everything good about him is suited to us and the league! The people in here slating him or calling him Young are the same ones that were calling Morata world class when they had only seen one 3 minute youtube highlight reel
Now let me stop pretending like i havent watched Perisic consistently over the last season (Roommate is an Inter Milan fan), He'd be worth £40-46 million for me considering how bonkers inflation has made the prices. hes got all the attributes youd want in an out and out winger. Specialties: Pace, two footed so defenders cant read his movements perfectly, prefers passing than shooting, loves his skills and actually DOES them well (only uses them to get past a man) rather than a few of our players who try the flashy stuff and get tackled. Crosses into the box wel, almost like a catalyst on the edge of the box, not afraid to shoot and he does he hits them hard and not over. Tall, good physique, strong.
How in hell can this man fail in the Premier league? Everything good about him is suited to us and the league! The people in here slating him or calling him Young are the same ones that were calling Morata world class when they had only seen one 3 minute youtube highlight reel
Finally someone who saw the man and evaluating him based on that rather than throwing " oh he's bang average " without even seeing him.
Bravo, Sir, Bravo.
Then he will be our crap, to support and defend. Anyway, sometimes even crap players become useful in particular circumstances. In some years, who will believe Fellaini was man of the man in the Europa League final?
He will be judged accordingly
Unlike the current scenario where people who have barely seen him play think he's as good as Young just because he's not a fancy wunderkid they know from fm. Judge him honestly.
We weren't late. It was a gamble which didn't work. Plus we were quoted the same price even then
I saw a lot of him last season and he was average imo.
(Note, my use of the word average in the context of United. Put him in Sunderland and he would a super star)
The money being quoted is awful, he's a good player but nearly 29. There is no resale value and it's no like he's been amazing at Inter. I do think he's a hard bstard and direct, we would be adding experience. I just don't think it's an inspiring signing or huge upgrade. Seeing that James deal today makes you wonder. I hope Martial takes his chance this season. I trust Jose though, he knows the mix we need. We are going to be a really strong physical side next year. It's just unfortunate we could be getting ripped off on this deal.
The price for perisic is too steep almost to the lengths of becoming a bad deal.
Oh goody can't wait for the reality check when we buy him for more than 60mio€ and he fails miserably 
What happens to Martial if we sign this Serbian feckhead?
Many other Serie A watchers seem to rate him though.
I'm really hoping that either we get this guy for closer hours worth I. E. 30 million or so, or we drop him like a hot potato and move for griezmann next summer as our left sided option while giving martial a proper shot this season. Surely a talent like him deserves it.
That kind of money is worth putting in for a player like carrasco, Perisic for than 35 m is getting fleeced.
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