Anything that's a premium item/player will fetch a premium price, that doesn't mean that average players should cost an extra added united tax. I truly believe that we're paying a steep price for a lack of footballing men running our club. Real have always paid big fees for big players but they seem to do just fine in getting relatively good value for average/good players that they sign. I think Woodward is out of him depth to be honest, it's not very impressive landing players when you're grossly overpaying for them. He's a genius at the commercial side, he's a fool when it comes to the footballing side and every other CEO seems to know it.
Ivan Perisic
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FACCIA A FACCIA PERISIC - Per quanto riguarda Perisic, invece, ci sarà presto un faccia a faccia in presenza di Sabatini e Ausilio, a cui ovviamente prenderà parte anche Luciano Spalletti, desideroso di conoscere la volontà dell’ex Wolfsburg, attratto dalla Premier e dalle alte promesse di ingaggio che il club inglese ha fatto pervenire all’entourage del calciatore. Entro sabato, quindi, ci saranno meno nubi circa il futuro dell’esterno offensivo.
Basically, still awaiting a face to face between the player, the directors and the manager to clarify the will of the player. By Saturday, maybe, there will be less clouds (
) around the future of the winger.
Basically, still awaiting a face to face between the player, the directors and the manager to clarify the will of the player. By Saturday, maybe, there will be less clouds (
) around the future of the winger.So you've never posted a single post criticising a any player or manager right? Coz they're obviously better at their jobs than you are. It's called a forum, it's there for opinions, the whole thing is built on a bunch of ill informed cnuts posting their opinions on subjects they have very little knowledge on, compared to the professionals who they give their opinions on. Including yourself.
100m for Perisic and Dier, no wonder Real wanted 80m for Morata. We have lost the plot. Dier was bought for 4m and Perisic for 16m, both are decent but havent set the world alight. The deadwood of tomorrow on high wages
If you hadn't noticed, many other clubs also have a shit ton load of money but you don't see them all paying the same United tax, do you?
I'd be astonished. Dembele would be the sexier signing that's probably a better player and has more potential but he's a very different winger to Perisic.
Perisic's profile is far more in line with what our squad is missing and what Mourinho traditionally likes.
Literally what we've done since Fergie left. Sign overpriced players, pay ridiculous salary, realise they're not actually all that great, then struggle to sell for a decent fee (or struggle to sell at all) coz of the extortionate wages they're on.
I'm happy he didn't put up a fight. The guy was appalling!
Also Mourinho was having a sly dig at LVG in those interviews - therefore, you cannot take what he said about Di Maria as the gospel truth.
A defensive winger? I can't wait to see the amazing football we're going to play with him on the wings.
A Monchi type DOF is what we need. Woodward is currently at the mercy of the manager - no one there to rein him in or negotiate with him about transfer targets.
City are also a PL team with as much money as we have, to burn. For a lower fee, they acquired one of the better players in a team that won a title, went far in the CL, will be one of the best players in his generation and can give 10 years to the club. City and Monaco are currently European rivals btw.
We are choosing to pay more for a just ok player whose club are not in the CL and also finished 7th in a poor Serie A, and has maybe 4 years of football left in him. It's nothing to do with us being United, we are being royally rinsed here, if the price quoted is true.
Have you ever thought that Mourinho has instructed Woodward to get Perisic whatever the price? You might consider that as him recognising Mourinho's football judgement and backing his manager.
I can criticise players from what do they on the pitch, am in no position to truly judge or fully understand what Ed does behind the scenes at the club.
From my memory of watching Perisič, he isn't this amazing crossing specialist either that he's being painted out to be, not that he's crap at it. I think it's a lazy assumption based on the fact he's a lefty who plays on the left, his strength must be in his crossing.
Distant memory? Seems he improved lately, and the videos at least show very good skills crossing.
He wasn't that bad for us. He had a lot of injuries and missed a lot of football that season. When he was fit again, LVG decided to not give him a sustained run in favour of Ashley fecking Young, who was playing slightly above average at the time.
Despite all the football he missed and his below par form he still had one of the highest assist totals in the league.
He could have been convinced to stay if there was any effort on LVG's part and I think he would've come good.
There's a bunch of posts in this thread from people who I think have not watched Inter enough to have an informed opinion. This is one of them.
Perisic is very attack-minded and very direct. He might be a willing runner, but he's no LB or LWB.
On top of that, whatever the players natural inclinations are, they have to follow the managers instructions. Martial is a forward who likes to linger upfield, so not a defensive minded player at all. Yet by the end of the season Mourinho had him playing the LW role like a left-back... marking at the edge of his box and everything. Because that's what he wanted of him. If he asks it of Perisic, he'll have to do the same but that not his natural game.
Would be an excellent signing
Defensive winger is harsh. Park ji Sung was a defensive winger.
I'd call Perisic more of an all round winger. Plenty of skill and work rate. Not an elite player but you know what you'll get from him.
Not distant at all. Anyone who has watched Inter enough will tell you this about Perisic:
a) He's right footed, albeit with a pretty decent left foot.
b) His final ball, be it a pass or a cross, is the least developed part of his otherwise well-rounded game. He's fast, he is a willing runner/marker, he is very direct and beats players, he is almost two footed. But his final ball is often misjudged or rather hopeful. If that part of his game was strong he wouldn't be at Inter at 28. He'd have been at Real Madrid at 24.
If I was Woodward I would seriously consider giving Inter the finger and focus our attentions elsewhere. For close to £50 million we could easily purchase a Lucas Moura, Thomas Lemar or even look at PL options such as Oxlade-Chamberlain or Willian.
Really think we missed a trick with not trying for Douglas Costa.
Inter can feck right off though. For a team toiling in a shit league, they are being unnecessarily difficult. Hate doing business with them and Juve.
Really think we missed a trick with not trying for Douglas Costa.
Inter can feck right off though. For a team toiling in a shit league, they are being unnecessarily difficult. Hate doing business with them and Juve.
You're right. He is direct, can beat a man, provide that width and he is a goal threat from that position. His crossing is decent but nothing amazing and wouldn't call it so much his strength.
Thanks. Had no idea his final ball was so bad. I was already under the impression his shooting was not fantastic, but thought he was good with crossings and general assists.
My thoughts exactly. I don't think he's a bad player but in the space of a week, there been this repetitive talk of him being a direct crossing specialist like he's KdB or Pennant or he is two footed like he's the new Carzola. He's able to get more crosses in because he is able to get past Serie A FBs because of his direct run, but that doesn't equate to superb crossing ability. It's the same way the YouTube videos show him doing a few cut backs and some have concluded that Perisic is a skillful winger. If we sign him, which I hope not especially for the ridiculous price, there will definitely be a surprise in what we get. For the sake of the club, I hope it's a good one.
Ed is between a rock and a hard place. I'm sure, left to him he would have told International to feck off ages ago.
It's not bad but it's certainly not his strong suit. He is constantly in danger areas though and gets involved in a lot of attacking play. He gets his fair share of assists.
EDIT: For the record, I do want us to get him. It's just the quoted price that is ridiculous. £30m or so he is definitely worth it. But not £50m
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We just boshed £75m on a 24 year old who has never played CL football - that's a shit ton of money. Who could match that in the PL, City? Maybe Chelsea?
Have you heard the one about the Brazilian youngster Real Madrid recently bought?
I have accepted this is happening and am already practicing my chant for him.
"Ivan Perisic sucks, Ivan Perisic sucks" to the tune of "John Cena sucks, John Cena sucks"
"Ivan Perisic sucks, Ivan Perisic sucks" to the tune of "John Cena sucks, John Cena sucks"
I think because he's very much a 'proper winger', it's assumed that the master plan is for him to be the David Beckham to Lukaku's Dwight Yorke and I'm not sure he's that guy.
Douglas Costa has much better delivery, for example. Perisič is good, but there is no justification for another to demand more than 3x profit for the player they bought 2 years ago based on his Serie A form. He would have had to have been a real revelation there.
How can Woodward sit there and get strong armed into coughing up 48m pounds for perisic. Mohamed salah is better and young and went for 13m less. Terrible business. Not to mention Douglas costa was available for loan but screwed the pooch on that one aswell
Salah is not definitely better than Perisic. And who the hell cares about £13m anyway? If Costa was so great Bayern wouldn't be selling him.
Do people not like this guy just because he's not Spanish or Brazilian? It beggars belief. The clips I've seen he's very attacking, and can deliver crosses with both feet. What's not to like?
Oh wait, yeah, that extra £10m or so we have to pay. Damn, £10m! We could buy a Bebe for that!
Do people not like this guy just because he's not Spanish or Brazilian? It beggars belief. The clips I've seen he's very attacking, and can deliver crosses with both feet. What's not to like?
Oh wait, yeah, that extra £10m or so we have to pay. Damn, £10m! We could buy a Bebe for that!
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Ed Woodward has been an absolute breath of fresh air after a shaky start with Moyes in Charge. He's got us dining at the top table as far as transfers go. He's actually doing justice to the behemoth that is Manchester United.
Over the years we have lost out on players like Ronaldinho, Robben, Hazard etc due to us pissing around with our negotiations. Now with Ed at the helm we're acting like the great club that we should in the transfer market.
Perisic seems to have divided quite a few on here but if Mourinho wants him and the club pay what Inter want, then please don't complain about the fee, because it doesn't come close to some of our poor dealings in the past. Rather see Perisic join us, than see Ashley Young bought for £18m and Juve sign Vidal for even less in the same transfer window.
We're dining at the top table and many rival fans are burning with envy.
Over the years we have lost out on players like Ronaldinho, Robben, Hazard etc due to us pissing around with our negotiations. Now with Ed at the helm we're acting like the great club that we should in the transfer market.
Perisic seems to have divided quite a few on here but if Mourinho wants him and the club pay what Inter want, then please don't complain about the fee, because it doesn't come close to some of our poor dealings in the past. Rather see Perisic join us, than see Ashley Young bought for £18m and Juve sign Vidal for even less in the same transfer window.
We're dining at the top table and many rival fans are burning with envy.
Thankfully most of us aren't 12 and don't watch wrestling to know how that song goes.
I agree with most of this - although without quite the same relish because I don't give a toss about transfers or our 'reputation' for transfers unless we're actually winning things - but for me signing Perisic would be exactly what signing Young was, and I'd expect a similar outcome.
Perisič isn't fine dining level to be fair. He generally flits around Europa League level, without particularly standing out. In a different season, Everton would be trying to get him for £25m.
He's definitely a good player, one I've liked. For a United, he's more the 'other winger' though. The Park Ji Sung to your Ronaldo, or the Willian to your Hazard. Good player, but leads me to think maybe Martial isn't safe here and JM may have a replacement 'star winger' lined up at some point, maybe next year. As I don't see Perisič being the player Martial is meant to become.
@Devil_forever is the strongest voice of reason here. I simply can't understand how any genuine fan can support signing this player for anywhere close to £50m.
Jose better wins the league or the CL next season if this happens...
Jose better wins the league or the CL next season if this happens...
Agree with the Young bit. His favourite 'fake to cross once or twice before actually crossing trick' is almost identical to Young's too.
Oh, is that why people have been using 'old school' winger to describe him? Lol. IIRC, he only assisted 4 for Icardi and Icardi has a way better movement than Lukaku
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