Ivan Perisic

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Sterling Archer said:
There is a sudden shift on the forum's outlook on this transfer. Seems like the Lukaku signing puts this into better perspective as a terrific combination.

If Shaw finds his form and fitness our left flank would be extremely balanced and productive with Perisic.
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Quite. He was the worst player in the history of the world a few days ago, now people seem to be mellowing.

My view has always been...meh. if Jose thinks a winger like Perisic will fit his system then we should sign him. Hardly exciting but can see his uses.
 
Yeah the Lukaku news has given everyone a bit of a lift and restored faith in Woodward and the club I think, fantastic signing and the way we went about it was superb. Getting one over on Chelsea like that still feels pretty sweet after having it had done to us on more than one occasion.

That said, I'm still not excited by this signing. Yes, he'll probably do a decent job but he won't elevate our attack to the level it needs to be to really scare teams before we've even kicked off. We are missing the stardust at the moment from wide areas and just behind the striker.
 
The issue with this guy is that I don't see Mourinho taking Rashford completely out of the starters of the team, and Lukaku usually drops a lot to the right. So, the question is: how could we fit Perišić, Lukaku and Rashford at the same time? I thought Mourinho could play him on the right, like he did to a magical lefty Di María, but Perišić looks like his real backyard is the top left corner of the field…
 
Tiber said:
Quite. He was the worst player in the history of the world a few days ago, now people seem to be mellowing.

My view has always been...meh. if Jose thinks a winger like Perisic will fit his system then we should sign him. Hardly exciting but can see his uses.
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It's very simplistic for me to make this comparison but I can't help it - it's like signing Antonio Valencia from Wigan in terms of fan excitement and what he brings to the team. In Valencia's case the flair factor was in the negative - he didn't even smile let alone attempt step over. But the production was terrific in those initial years especially with Nani providing all the 'excitement' on the opposing flank.
 
I've said all along that I'd be happy for him to arrive, just preferably not for loads due to his age. He's fast, powerful, direct, can beat a man and will actually look before aiming a cross....traits most of our current 'wing' players lack to some extent. My only issue is that I think we're in more need of a RW player really.
 
Looks like a typical jose type of player. Very hardworking and his long range passing are also not bad. He is your proper winger who cam actually cross , wish ibra played with him. Lukaku will benefit immensely because of perisic.
 
We need someone to provide Martial with competition for the LW spot: Mkhi, Lingard and Mata all play in the middle or on the right and Rashford is the second choice for the striker position. Good signing.
 
I understand why there has been some hate for this guy - predominantly his age and the fee we may or may not pay.

Those things aside, he's a very solid player. He has a good bit of pace about him, he's strong and hew can definitely whip in a beautiful cross. Another great thing is his ambidexterity with regards his feet, it's a really handy thing to have. If we sign him I won't be jubilant, but i'll be satisfied, because I know this guy can get the job done.
 
I think Mourinho wants Perisic for his defensive work as much as anything else.

Martial was a defensive liability although he was noticeably making an effort at defending by the end of the season.

Perisic can also play on the right and come in on his left if you wanted to target a weakness at left back in your opponent. It's all about options in the squad.
 
Is Perisic my dream signing? No, and he's not a flashy signing but if Mou wants him then I trust in him. I think he could be useful for us. I'm sure this has been said before but just my two cents.
 
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Sterling Archer said:
It's very simplistic for me to make this comparison but I can't help it - it's like signing Antonio Valencia from Wigan in terms of fan excitement and what he brings to the team. In Valencia's case the flair factor was in the negative - he didn't even smile let alone attempt step over. But the production was terrific in those initial years especially with Nani providing all the 'excitement' on the opposing flank.
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You are going to be seriously disappointed if you think perisic is going to get anywhere near valencia level crosses, his crosses are miles better than today's valencia's but well short of the early years valencia we signed, also did perisic go through some pokemon style evolution in past few days with all these posts saying he is going to provide lot of good crosses to lukaku, the man has never had even double digit assists in any season in his entire career, why exactly is that suddenly going to change?
 
BigCaine said:
You are going to be seriously disappointed if you think perisic is going to get anywhere near valencia level crosses, his crosses are miles better than today's valencia's but well short of the early years valencia we signed, also did perisic go through some pokemon style evolution in past few days with all these posts saying he is going to provide lot of good crosses to lukaku, the man has never had even double digit assists in any season in his entire career, why exactly is that suddenly going to change?
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:lol::wenger:
What in the world are you talking about? Pokémon? Really? Pokémon?

I don't know if I can reply following that without any condescension or facetiousness but I'll try. "Double digit" assists for any player puts them into an elite category of playmakers, the likes of Ozil or Fabregas. So it's kind of an odd statement, that. I...garr can't hold back any more...I assume "double digit" assists are commonplace for ya, on your Xbox where good strikers score 50 goals a season too.

Sorry. It's late. I've got no patience nonsense. :wenger:
 
if he can cross a football with his left foot, then im a fan. Our crossing is just awful these days and having a genuine left footed winger would really help the balance of our side
 
Lowkey said:
if he can cross a football with his left foot, then im a fan. Our crossing is just awful these days and having a genuine left footed winger would really help the balance of our side
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How can you argue with logic like that?
 
BigCaine said:
You are going to be seriously disappointed if you think perisic is going to get anywhere near valencia level crosses, his crosses are miles better than today's valencia's but well short of the early years valencia we signed, also did perisic go through some pokemon style evolution in past few days with all these posts saying he is going to provide lot of good crosses to lukaku, the man has never had even double digit assists in any season in his entire career, why exactly is that suddenly going to change?
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The answer will be better finishers, because ultimately someone has to finish the chances to qualify as assists. You can look at how terrible the finishers were in the clip
 
Dave46 said:
So how come his assists are horrible in the last 6 years? I'm not sure he is a better dribbler than Martial, he does not have the speed of Rashford, he is not as creative as Miki or better goal scorer than Mata. So he takes his marker on and puts a cross in. Would you expect more than 30 assists for 13000+minutes of play?
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You keep coming back for same point. He only really stepped up during the last 2 years or so. Before that he has attribute but a wank mess of application since he tried to cut in being a wing forward aka poor man Robben

As I had this discussion with you before which I used Giggs as benchmark, out out winger the type that focus on stretch play, alienating full back from CBs, thus creating a pocket of space forhis teammate to attack they don't have the same assist stats like wide playmaker or goal scoring stats like wing forward. If we're to buy the Perisic 3 years ago, then everyone have a case since a type of wide player cutting in, we should give that chance to Martial.

About the bolded part above, after getting full back committed, the winger can make a key pass to player in better position to assist, so key passes is another thing you should look. What different between Perisic & Ashley Young (some weird comparison some people made on here), is Perisic has more football brain & knows when not to put in blind cross while Ashley Young as pointed out years ago, didn't look up & more often than not blindly play the cross/ pass into disavantage position for his teammate.
 
darioterios said:
The answer will be better finishers, because ultimately someone has to finish the chances to qualify as assists. You can look at how terrible the finishers were in the clip
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He played along side Icardi, who is one of the best finisher's in the game, but provided an assists on only about 4-5 of Icardi's 26 goals.
 
Sterling Archer said:
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:lol::wenger:
What in the world are you talking about? Pokémon? Really? Pokémon?

I don't know if I can reply following that without any condescension or facetiousness but I'll try. "Double digit" assists for any player puts them into an elite category of playmakers, the likes of Ozil or Fabregas. So it's kind of an odd statement, that. I...garr can't hold back any more...I assume "double digit" assists are commonplace for ya, on your Xbox where good strikers score 50 goals a season too.

Sorry. It's late. I've got no patience nonsense. :wenger:
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Sigurdsson?
 
cheeky_backheel said:
He played along side Icardi, who is one of the best finisher's in the game, but provided an assists on only about 4-5 of Icardi's 26 goals.
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That's a fair point. I don't follow Inter so completely forgot about Icardi, but from what I've gathered from the clip some of the finishes were truly atrocious.
 
darioterios said:
That's a fair point. I don't follow Inter so completely forgot about Icardi, but from what I've gathered from the clip some of the finishes were truly atrocious.
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He could have at least 5 more if not for those poor finishing. At least he created the chances, especially those left footed crosses. United need more of that next season.
 
El-Manos said:
Are we deliberately ignoring the rest now, in order for your statement to make sense? Robben was an upcoming world-class talent, Perisic was deemed surplus to requirements at Dortmund and finished seventh with his current club in the Serie A, also he is 29. Apples and oranges I would say.
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Seems like you deliberately ignored Robben in the same vain when you said he cant sign wingers..
I'm not a Perìsic fan and think its a silly signing but I wouldnt use it as an example to bash Jose's winger signing.
 
Sterling Archer said:
Re: bolded
:lol::wenger:
What in the world are you talking about? Pokémon? Really? Pokémon?

I don't know if I can reply following that without any condescension or facetiousness but I'll try. "Double digit" assists for any player puts them into an elite category of playmakers, the likes of Ozil or Fabregas. So it's kind of an odd statement, that. I...garr can't hold back any more...I assume "double digit" assists are commonplace for ya, on your Xbox where good strikers score 50 goals a season too.

Sorry. It's late. I've got no patience nonsense. :wenger:
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I am talking all competitions not just the league, to do it in the league may be elite but never once managing to put up even 10 assists in an entire season playing 40-45 on an average is poor.
 
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From that clip, it look like he handles the left wing by himself, because i don't see a left back overlapping him. Good for him and Darmian. But i doubt he will be able to move the ball from the touchline to the edge of the box(his territory) with such ease in the EPL, and teams tend to swipe towards our left side, so it will be difficult for him to isolate his full back on a regular basis.
 
Sterling Archer said:
Re: bolded
:lol::wenger:
What in the world are you talking about? Pokémon? Really? Pokémon?

I don't know if I can reply following that without any condescension or facetiousness but I'll try. "Double digit" assists for any player puts them into an elite category of playmakers, the likes of Ozil or Fabregas. So it's kind of an odd statement, that. I...garr can't hold back any more...I assume "double digit" assists are commonplace for ya, on your Xbox where good strikers score 50 goals a season too.

Sorry. It's late. I've got no patience nonsense. :wenger:
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I'm not crazy about this signing but agree that's a really odd measure - only 5 players got double digit assists last season in the PL. De Bruyne (18), Eriksen (15), Siggurdson (13), Fabregas (12), Sanchez (10). Not a completely terrible list of players by any stretch!
 
I've only really seen him play for Croatia but have always been impressed.

Having just watched that highlights clip from last season I think he has exactly what the squad is missing (Inter's finishing somehow looks worse than ours!). Does anyone see similarities with his game to Nani's? Good off both feet, good delivery, dribbling etc.
 
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luke511 said:
If signing Perisic means Lingard won't be getting as many appearances as he did last season, then signing him should be our highest priority on that point alone! The thought of Lingard playing as much as he did last season proper scares the shit out of me.
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It's Martial whose days are numbered if he joins. Mourinho clearly favoured Rashford over him on the left (even though Rashford is almost invariably awful there), so he'll be the third in the pecking order for that position, as well as the striker position. Lingard plays on the right, he'll get just as many chances or even more as last season.
 
Android1974 said:
The issue with this guy is that I don't see Mourinho taking Rashford completely out of the starters of the team, and Lukaku usually drops a lot to the right. So, the question is: how could we fit Perišić, Lukaku and Rashford at the same time? I thought Mourinho could play him on the right, like he did to a magical lefty Di María, but Perišić looks like his real backyard is the top left corner of the field…
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Back 3 is an option with this guy. Remember the end of Boro & Everton games? An attacker with good defensive attribute can be assurance when we go all out. Or Chelsea at home with 2 forwards.

Mourinho knows how to play with 2 forwards too. It's not only the case with Inter. Porto he also did. He just didn't get the balanced wingers on both wing for his next jobs to really implement that tactic.
 
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We've an absolute abundance of creative wide players that love to cut in so it makes absolute sense to sign an actual winger that will cross the ball, especially with a player like Lukaku up front.

Just because he's not a glamorous signing doesn't mean he can't be very effective for us.
 
Tad concerned regarding his kick and outrun style of beating defenders when he goes on the outside. I'm not sure how well that'll translate in the PL.
 
Varun said:
Tad concerned regarding his kick and outrun style of beating defenders when he goes on the outside. I'm not sure how well that'll translate in the PL.
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Bale managed it alright.

Valencia too.
 
Carl said:
We've an absolute abundance of creative wide players that love to cut in so it makes absolute sense to sign an actual winger that will cross the ball, especially with a player like Lukaku up front.

Just because he's not a glamorous signing doesn't mean he can't be very effective for us.
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This is spot on
 
English fullbacks are hardly Cafu and Maldini, can he skin the likes of Danny Simpson? I'd say yeah.
 
cheeky_backheel said:
Sigurdsson?
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In the top 5 leagues there are 20 players with double digit assists, Perisic isn't one of them. On that aspect, Perisic is behind the likes of Ljajic and Suso and apparently 50th in Europe.
 
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