Perisic vs Rudiger
but the cafe told me this lad has the ball skills of a 43 year old HeskeyIvan Perisic
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but the cafe told me this lad has the ball skills of a 43 year old HeskeyOh dear, really mate ? None of those tall players you mention about could eat Baresi, Costacurta, and Cannavaro. None of them.
Being tall is an advantage for CB, but if you followed Baresi, Costacurta, and Cannavaro, you would see, taller means nothing for them.
Their technical ability, composure, and tactical inept, and high level of Football IQ were the best. Cannavaro while only 179 cm, lead Italy to be champion, and being the best player.
Baresi ? He was better than Cannavaro. Even from Maldini.
Billy, i considered the weakest all of them, but still he would not be eat by those you mentioned above.
I believe more on the 2 forwards thing than back 3, since we were going there with Griezmann, but that doesn't leave much space for our bunch of playmakers. It would also make more sense to play Blind than Shaw behind the Croatian, in that case.
You are overly optimistic on him.
Perisic linking up with Mkhitaryan as #10 I actually think could work quite well. Rashford too (If Jose trusts him in that role)
I think you're misunderstanding me.
Italy had always developed top quality defenders. However there was a small chink in their armour ie they were traditionally short. That was exploited by many Serie A clubs and was the basis on why the likes of John Charles, Bobo Vieri, Batigol and Gunnar Nordahl did so well there.
Today's Serie A defenders are not as talented as the likes of Baresi and Scirea (Bonucci can easily go toe to toe with Cannavaro) were. However they lack that particular weakness. Most of them are over 6ft tall. If you add that to the fact that
a- Italian refs will always take the goalkeeper's side in 50:50 challenges
b- Italian clubs love to play with a 3 men CB
Than from a purely 'traditional' winger perspective its far more difficult to do well in the Serie A then in the EPL.
First ever Croatian to wear a famous United shirt. Get in!
Wish that was Modric to be honest!
Anyway, I think Perisic will do well at United. Looking forward to having a proper winger back at the club.
Douglas Costa would be my 2nd option.
Majority of those players are not wingers and several are in fact elite in my and many an opinion. Moreover, this is where focusing on one statistic to value a player becomes misleading. 8 versus 10 is counting pennies and calling it a foundation for dismissing Perisic isn't fair. Stack's point and stat below is much more representative.
Aye, you're correct chance creation is the better way to gauge. And indeed in that regard he is a bit But I don't think Jose is targeting him for that - Mikhi, Mata and Pogba for that. Few other posters pointed out that our existing wingers or playmakers positioned on the wing cut in constantly. We need a player who consistently does not. Seems to fit the bill well enough with the added physical presence Jose loves.
That was not your original point though, and since you name dropped ozil and fabregas as being an elite category I assumed you were not just talking about wingers unless you have played with fabregas as a winger on your Xbox where apparently getting 10 assists is an achievement. The funniest bit is your absolute arrogance when writing that post.
On perisic, going by assists or chance creation, he has always been an average player. Nothing more.
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What in the world are you talking about? Pokémon? Really? Pokémon?
I don't know if I can reply following that without any condescension or facetiousness but I'll try. "Double digit" assists for any player puts them into an elite category of playmakers, the likes of Ozil or Fabregas. So it's kind of an odd statement, that. I...garr can't hold back any more...I assume "double digit" assists are commonplace for ya, on your Xbox where good strikers score 50 goals a season too.
Sorry. It's late. I've got no patience nonsense.
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Worried that this may be our 2017 re-run of the Depay v Mane transfer; Liverpool look to be getting a lot more for their money in Mohamed Salah than we will if Perisic really costs £45-50m as reported...
1 of two things is happening here
Either you think we signed Memphis the same summer as Liverpool signed Mane (false)
You think it was an either or when we did sign Memphis but didn't sign Mane ourselves
(again false)
yup - my bad - I meant Memphis vs Firminho of course ...
Feels a lot like the Keane and Morata transfer stories this, press batting around fees and talks on going for weeks... and then; Lindelof & Lukaku.
First Keane, then Morata, are we using players / press leaks as a cover to work on our actual targets?
First Keane, then Morata, are we using players / press leaks as a cover to work on our actual targets?
Haha lulz lmaoCannot wait to see us line up against the rest of the top 6 with a front 3 of Perisic-Fellaini-Lingard
Mkhitaryan/Mata/Rashford etc
And we all know how that worked out...
Hope the figures aren't true. But we have missed a proper winger for some time now. I'm sure he'll work hard down that left flank and feed Lukaku. Feed the goat!
Can't say i've seen much of him to be honest, but from what i have seen he seems like a genuine out and out winger. So based on that alone i would like to see us sign him.
Well, interesting example as people were expecting Depay to perform and Mane to fail at the time. The opposite happened so you never know. Now everyone is bashing Perisic and honoring Salah but let's at least wait and see because things may not turn out as expected just like with Depay and Mane.
I read somewhere a loan was accepted at Juventus for him but not sure if it was official or not. Seems like a much smarter move than overpaying for Perisic. Why there is always this impression that we get fleeced on each purchase ??
Rinsed beyond Andy Carroll levels
Holy feck this thread is a shambles. So much moaning for a guy that plays really well in a position we badly need to strengthen.
Don't want Modric anywhere near United, not footballing reasons.
Well that's my point entirely - perisic is not an elite player or playmaker so why use those stats to compare him. I wouldn't have gone near the stats but took the bait replying to @BigCaine and his Pokémon and assists analogy.
My whole thing is signing Perisic reminds me of Fergie signing Valencia.
Point is that he isnt even an average winger/play maker if we just go by the stats.
Caf is wrong about a player shocker.
Perisic vs Rudiger
If that was the PL two sprinting zombies would have broke his ankle before the second turn.
My main doubt about him is his shooting, specially from afar. If he's adding to our goal tally, he'll also need that.
Otherwise, he might be a good older and different complement to Martial, more a squad player than a dead sure starter. Maybe Mourinho hasn't lost all hope on Martial.
Regarding the cost, it might not be a fair evaluation of the player alone, but of our needs.
Otherwise, he might be a good older and different complement to Martial, more a squad player than a dead sure starter. Maybe Mourinho hasn't lost all hope on Martial.
Regarding the cost, it might not be a fair evaluation of the player alone, but of our needs.
Modric is a twat
I like the signing of Perisic with Lukaku up top. A proper touchline winger who will swing the ball in the box. I cant remember any goals last season where Ibrahimovic got a proper cross from the side and headed it home. I miss those. Ideal for a poacher like Lukaku in my opinion.
Ibra's cup winner vs Southampton?
Winner v Leicester at Wembley, and was it against Palace or West Brom away that Lingard crossed a beauty of a cross in for him?
Yeah WBA away was the first genuine run + cross at speed we've scored in god knows how long. It annoys me as Lingard shows he's got that in his locker but rarely does it.
Didnt you see the legal trouble he is in?
lost count of how many players have legal issues. Was his not different to Ronaldos basic tax evasion?
Google it mate its not good
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