Ivan Perisic

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Which will still be more than what Martial scored last season and the same as what Rashford scored.
He scored 11 league goals in an Italian league which is notoriously difficult to score in. Personally, I think he will score more league goals than any of our current set of attackers, bar Lukaku.
Didn't Sarah score like 15 and assist even more?
 
Then he should hand in a transfer request, refuse to train etc.

Then that raises questions about his mentality and professionalism; a player under contract refusing to train isn't a great look for a player you'd want to buy.

All for handing in a transfer request, do it properly. Don't act pentulant and turn it into a public spectacle.
 
Then that raises questions about his mentality and professionalism; a player under contract refusing to train isn't a great look for a player you'd want to buy.

All for handing in a transfer request, do it properly. Don't act pentulant and turn it into a public spectacle.
I don't think the team looking to sign you would mind if you throw a ruckus, especially when you're turning 29 soon.
 
Which will still be more than what Martial scored last season and the same as what Rashford scored.
He scored 11 league goals in an Italian league which is notoriously difficult to score in. Personally, I think he will score more league goals than any of our current set of attackers, bar Lukaku.
Scoring in the Serie A was a notoriously difficult and this was many years ago. Why do people keep using this same old narrative as if the league is full of Cannavaros, Maldinis, Cafus and Zanettis. The reason why they are less goals is because there are few prolific strikers. Higuain and Belotti (only after one season) are the real prolific strikers. It will take a miracle for him to come to the PL and start scoring freely.
 
It is, isn't it. Lets repeat it one more time.
I find it funny that despite your over-promotion of Perisic, you have used the phrase "the turd that won't flush" on multiple occasions. Either you're trying to be funny or really wound up, I hope we sign the guy just for your sake. Your loyalty to the guy is admirable.
 
Which will still be more than what Martial scored last season and the same as what Rashford scored.
He scored 11 league goals in an Italian league which is notoriously difficult to score in. Personally, I think he will score more league goals than any of our current set of attackers, bar Lukaku.

I'd alter it to a prediction that counting in assists he'd be our second best contributor (Pogba third).
 


He joined inter on 30th august 2015.



The Croatian FA and FIFA had tagged this account in the past. Miranda and kondogbia (teammates at inter) follow the account. It's more possible it's a real account than it's not.

Lot of people aren't verified. Simon stone still isn't and he is a journo for BBC
 


He joined inter on 30th august 2015.



The Croatian FA and FIFA had tagged this account in the past. Miranda and kondogbia (teammates at inter) follow the account. It's more possible it's a real account than it's not.

Lot of people aren't verified. Simon stone still isn't and he is a journo for BBC

Wouldn't his current club Inter be following him if the account was legit?
 
Which will still be more than what Martial scored last season and the same as what Rashford scored.
He scored 11 league goals in an Italian league which is notoriously difficult to score in. Personally, I think he will score more league goals than any of our current set of attackers, bar Lukaku.
We are no longer in the 90s

- Dzeko 29 goals - highest tally before then was 16 in PL and 26 in Bundesliga
- Callejon who was a squad player at Madrid has scored 10+ goals in 3 of his 4 seasons in serie A b(15, 11, 7 and 14 goals respectively)
 
Maybe I'm suffering from Stockholm's syndrome, but I have the growing feeling this guy might be the missing link. Let's just bully Inter till we have him. Offer Darmian in sacrifice.:mad:
 
We are no longer in the 90s

- Dzeko 29 goals - highest tally before then was 16 in PL and 26 in Bundesliga
- Callejon who was a squad player at Madrid has scored 10+ goals in 3 of his 4 seasons in serie A b(15, 11, 7 and 14 goals respectively)

Dzeko 29 goals in 3056 mins - 105 mins per goal
2015-16: 8 goals in 1954 mins - 244 mins per goal

In PL:
2011-12: 14 goals in 1497 mins - 106 mins per goal
2012-13: 14 goals in 1816 mins - 129 mins per goal
2013-14: 16 goals in 1993 mins - 124 mins per goal
2014-15: 4 goals in 932 mins - 233 mins per goal

Bundesliga:
2008-09: 26 goals in 2629 mins - 101 mins per goal
2009-10: 22 goals in 3003 mins - 136 mins per goal

Considering Dzeko never got run of games at City, there isn't a significant difference in his goal scoring rate at all.
 
We are no longer in the 90s

- Dzeko 29 goals - highest tally before then was 16 in PL and 26 in Bundesliga
- Callejon who was a squad player at Madrid has scored 10+ goals in 3 of his 4 seasons in serie A b(15, 11, 7 and 14 goals respectively)
Clichés have a tendency to die hard. Like you meant, the Serie A is much more open than before. I mean you have players with no special quality nor talent like Belotti (:wenger:) scoring many goals there too.
 
Clichés have a tendency to die hard. Like you meant, the Serie A is much more open than before. I mean you have players with no special quality nor talent like Belotti (:wenger:) scoring many goals there too.

Agree with that. French league is the most defensive league out of top 5 which was surprising.
 
Agree with that. French league is the most defensive league out of top 5 which was surprising.

And it is getting more open too, there used to be a period not long ago where scoring more than 20 goals was seen as a miracle. Now, a few more teams try to play attacking football every game.
 
And it is getting more open too, there used to be a period not long ago where scoring more than 20 goals was seen as a miracle. Now, a few more teams try to play attacking football every game.

IIRC Napoli and Roma are among the top 5 clubs that scored most goals in the league last season.
 
He is direct because he isn't technically that good to do the intricate passing stuff and good at crossing means he puts in a lot of crosses not that that most of the crosses find the expected target.
Thank you. His assist stats spell that.
 
Dzeko 29 goals in 3056 mins - 105 mins per goal
2015-16: 8 goals in 1954 mins - 244 mins per goal

In PL:
2011-12: 14 goals in 1497 mins - 106 mins per goal
2012-13: 14 goals in 1816 mins - 129 mins per goal
2013-14: 16 goals in 1993 mins - 124 mins per goal
2014-15: 4 goals in 932 mins - 233 mins per goal

Bundesliga:
2008-09: 26 goals in 2629 mins - 101 mins per goal
2009-10: 22 goals in 3003 mins - 136 mins per goal

Considering Dzeko never got run of games at City, there isn't a significant difference in his goal scoring rate at all.
The difference in scoring rate is about 7 goals per season - that is significant imo.
 
They're not silly, they know we overpay stupidly at times for players, why shouldn't they try it too ? Worst case scenario, they keep a player (who despite being unhappy will at the end probably just play his football) who performed for them.
They would have an vicious cycle that in long term harm them: 1. They would probably have to face problem with balancing the book for the summer next few years this they can't improve their players' wage too high 2. Players would take notice that Inter plays hardball & prevent their future move with unreasonable demand. Therefore of Inter doesn't play the card right, players would turn down to join them. They don't want to be stuck with low wage at Inter when bigger clubs come in with better wage, & reasonable deal for Inter.

This is different situation than I am tackling with other posters in Verratti thread. PSG offered great wage for Verratti, and in theory still keen to match any wage offer than any other clubs. PSG still invests to challenge so Verratti doesn't have the case to press against them. Remember Inter doesn't even have CL to offer & doesn't look like challenging for title either. Inter tried to renew with Perisic but their offer seems weak compare to joining us playing in CL with a team trying to seriously get back to the top.
 
Surely we can get better value for money by spending 70-80 million on someone much younger although I can't think of many top players who are similar to perisic. It's almost like we're after a rare artifact that isn't too valuable but is the final piece missing from our collection and the seller knows this.
 
Surely we can get better value for money by spending 70-80 million on someone much younger although I can't think of many top players who are similar to perisic. It's almost like we're after a rare artifact that isn't too valuable but is the final piece missing from our collection and the seller knows this.

We already have youngster in martial who deserves more time. Surely it makes sense to buy an older player so that martial can take his time to develop
 
Yeah, you guys need to forget about 2016/17 serie A stats. Half the league hit the beaches in January, all attacking stats are massively inflated as those teams didn't care for results and played super-open against the big teams
 
They would have an vicious cycle that in long term harm them: 1. They would probably have to face problem with balancing the book for the summer next few years this they can't improve their players' wage too high 2. Players would take notice that Inter plays hardball & prevent their future move with unreasonable demand. Therefore of Inter doesn't play the card right, players would turn down to join them. They don't want to be stuck with low wage at Inter when bigger clubs come in with better wage, & reasonable deal for Inter.

This is different situation than I am tackling with other posters in Verratti thread. PSG offered great wage for Verratti, and in theory still keen to match any wage offer than any other clubs. PSG still invests to challenge so Verratti doesn't have the case to press against them. Remember Inter doesn't even have CL to offer & doesn't look like challenging for title either. Inter tried to renew with Perisic but their offer seems weak compare to joining us playing in CL with a team trying to seriously get back to the top.

They're obviously doing that because we're United, the team that is infamous for overpaying for players. They wouldn't and aren't dumb to apply the same strategy for any player and any club.
 
They're obviously doing that because we're United, the team that is infamous for overpaying for players. They wouldn't and aren't dumb to apply the same strategy for any player and any club.
I don't disagree. However, they can only make as much money selling players to smaller team. They need to know not to overdoing since once the overpaying clubs stop coming, they would have hard time selling the same players for the reasonable offer. It's basic business practice to keep healthy relation with big customer since that's way to make more in long term than piss them off & penny picking for the enternity
 
I don't disagree. However, they can only make as much money selling players to smaller team. They need to know not to overdoing since once the overpaying clubs stop coming, they would have hard time selling the same players for the reasonable offer. It's basic business practice to keep healthy relation with big customer since that's way to make more in long term than piss them off & penny picking for the enternity

You make sense tbh, I just think big clubs ending up having bad relationships rarely happen and rarely happen because one club asked too much for one of their players. It's a game of chess they're all playing. Inter is just testing how much we truly want Perisic, I personally think it is nuts to even be interested in such an average player, not really about the fee because it ain't my money and the market is crazy.
 
He [Martial] doesn't need to develop, he's got the talent already as seen in 2015/6. He just needs to have his head screwed back on.

Many young players have talent, but it's how that player applies himself and uses that talent.
And an output of 4 league goals for the whole season, suggests that he has A LOT of developing to do.

I just don't think that Jose is the right man to get the most out of Martial. Martial needs to be mollycoddled (Shaw is the same) and Jose is not the sort of manager who does this, which is why Jose tends to do better when coaching grown men, rather than young players. Rashford is the exception, but by all accounts, Rashford's attitude, behaviour and commitment seems to be more mature than his age would suggest.

Assuming Perisic is a hardworking player who will 'run through walls' for Jose, Jose would play him in every game, over Martial (who doesn't seem to care to impress Jose and certainly won't be running through any walls for his manager).

I know it sucks that Martial has gone backwards, but that's what happened last season and tbh, I expected younger players to struggle under Jose, but I will take that, because Jose will deliver trophies and trophies are what MUFC are all about.
 
Apparently he just followed a bunch of United players on instagram, including Lukaku.

So needy.


I've got a bad feeling about him. I think he's going to be a Fellaini/Blind/Depay style signing where certain posters will take issue with him from the get go and scapegoat him.
 
Many young players have talent, but it's how that player applies himself and uses that talent.
And an output of 4 league goals for the whole season, suggests that he has A LOT of developing to do.

I just don't think that Jose is the right man to get the most out of Martial. Martial needs to be mollycoddled (Shaw is the same) and Jose is not the sort of manager who does this, which is why Jose tends to do better when coaching grown men, rather than young players. Rashford is the exception, but by all accounts, Rashford's attitude, behaviour and commitment seems to be more mature than his age would suggest.

Assuming Perisic is a hardworking player who will 'run through walls' for Jose, Jose would play him in every game, over Martial (who doesn't seem to care to impress Jose and certainly won't be running through any walls for his manager).

I know it sucks that Martial has gone backwards, but that's what happened last season and tbh, I expected younger players to struggle under Jose, but I will take that, because Jose will deliver trophies and trophies are what MUFC are all about.
He's gone backwards alright but I don't blame Jose for that. I get the feeling he's distracted by things other than football and he should think more about what he needs to do when he gets on the park. His game will develop naturally if he wants it, and you're right, he needs to develop otherwise he'll become too easy to play against. I definitely see what you mean.
 
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