I'm not sure whether you are agreeing with me or not to be honest. My original comment was with regard to the hypocrisy people like Barack Obama calling one murder an "act of terror" but not the other.
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I'm not sure whether you are agreeing with me or not to be honest. My original comment was with regard to the hypocrisy people like Barack Obama calling one murder an "act of terror" but not the other.
An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.
Terrorism is such a skewed term anyway, the United States for example would probably be classified as the biggest terrorist entity if one were to use its own state department's definition of terrorism.
So they're defining terrorism, then proceeding to carry out acts that fit the definition. Makes perfect sense.
That's the hypocrisy behind it
Ultimately what distinguishes a terrorist from a freedom fighter is whether they're a friend or foe at a given time, case in point - this man:
That's before he started blowing up American buildings, no?That's the hypocrisy behind it
Ultimately what distinguishes a terrorist from a freedom fighter is whether they're a friend or foe at a given time, case in point - this man:
That's the hypocrisy behind it
Ultimately what distinguishes a terrorist from a freedom fighter is whether they're a friend or foe at a given time, case in point - this man:
Can you paste the definition ?
Hah, I like that one.
Yep, when he was Osama the commie basher and liberator.
That's the Defense Department's definition.
State's definition goes a bit like this - "Premeditated, politically motivated violence
perpetrated against non-combatant targets by subnational groups or
clandestine agents;
Whichever definition you use will end up labeling the US as a prime proprietor of terrorism.
Good article, was going to post it earlier.
It obviously wouldn't because of the term non combatant.
I'm not sure where I stand on this but the drone attacks in Pakistan could fall under this definition.
True, although the targets are always combatants. In war unfortunately, it's not unusual for nearby non combatants to also die.
Israeli crimes towards Palestinian non-combatants are done so using US weaponry, training and funding. Furthermore the US offers them diplomatic immunity for these crimes using its UNSC veto.
The US had supported the contras with their brutal campaign of terror in Nicaragua against non-combatants sympathetic to the Sandinistas.
The covert overthrowing of democratically elected leaders and having them being replaced by brutal despots who the US would fund as they would massacre their way to consolidation.
Indiscriminate bombings of civilians which are tenuously whitewashed as 'collateral damage'.
There are dozens of examples I can list.
Selling arms to foreign countries obviously doesn't qualify as most nations with decent sized militaries do it based on their alliances with the buying countries.
As I've said in other threads, Terrorism is an undefinable pejorative that is used to demonize "an other" in order to create a sense of moral outrage for a specific audience. If you ever take a Uni course on the subject, in addition to the history of terrorism and tactics used by various groups over the years (in the modern era usually beginning with Michael Collins forward), the central delimma is the lack of agreement within the US as well as internationally on the definition.
That's what I've been alluding to, its a term which is skewed and highly subjective.
Its not just selling arms either - if your support (be it military or diplomatic) is the only thing which allows a nation to persist with her crimes, you're equally culpable.
I suppose you can create your own definition that aligns with your political views, but my point is that it's a pointless term.
Agreed.
Their hatred for the arabs and non-jews (goyims) in general is insane, but their cowardice is just as big.
Anything similar happening in Gaza at the moment? Thousands marching and condemning the murder of the three kids?
At the moment there's a curfew imposed by the Israeli military, so I'm guessing not.
If this recent turns of events has reaffirmed anything, its that some human lives are valued above others. One Palestinian child has been killed every 3 days by Israel for the last 13 years and we never hear their names nor learn of their tragic plight. Yet we constantly hear the names and see the faces of the three Israeli teenagers killed.
My guess is that this must have something to do with the following:
If this recent turns of events has reaffirmed anything, its that some human lives are valued above others. One Palestinian child has been killed every 3 days by Israel for the last 13 years and we never hear their names nor learn of their tragic plight. Yet we constantly hear the names and see the faces of the three Israeli teenagers killed.
Because a Israeli's life has more value than an arab life, everything is in the talmud read it.
Meanwhile .... Israeli police brutally beating a Palestinian youth in the Shuafat neighborhood (must be a terrorist in the future)
Cowardly pigs.
This thread is a good microcosm of the conflict really isn't it?
Leaves the whole world blind............and needing dentures which will have to be supplied by a blind dentist and that's just going to be messy...
Pretty accurate, yes.
Just saw a news report of another Palestinian kid getting brutalized. Very sad.
Yes.
Several arrests have already been made. And apparently some of the arrested have confessed to murder.
I'm sure that the PA is also doing everything in their power in order to arrest the two Hamas activists suspected for the murder of the three teenagers.
The murderers of the Arab kid are Jews. I wish they had death sentence in the legal system here. This crime is certainly one which would justify capital punishment.
What about his cousin, the Palestinian-American kid who was beat up by cops on camera ? Will they be punished ?
I don't know. They may be because he's an American. Typically I'd think this would have been swept under the carpet, but being caught on camera hitting a boy with the wrong passport could cost them.
Mentioning the American passport, any idea how your legal system would treat a minor who goes overseas and throws Molotov cocktails at security forces?
Netanyahu: Hamas chose escalation and it will pay a heavy price
Defense minister says Israel prepared for 'long offensive against Hamas'; Minister: Hamas ignored our ceasefire attempts.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ordered the military to "take off the gloves" in its confrontation with Hamas and said "Hamas chose escalation and it will pay a heavy price for it."
Senior political sources close to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said he has ordered the defense establishment to conduct a "continues, long and forceful operation in Gaza."
According to the source, Netanyahu told the IDF to go "all the way," saying "evening a ground operation was currently on the table." According to them, such an operation was far from certain, but that the operation's goal was to increase deterrence and deal Hamas a significant blow.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4539542,00.html
Defense minister says Israel prepared for 'long offensive against Hamas'; Minister: Hamas ignored our ceasefire attempts.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ordered the military to "take off the gloves" in its confrontation with Hamas and said "Hamas chose escalation and it will pay a heavy price for it."
Senior political sources close to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said he has ordered the defense establishment to conduct a "continues, long and forceful operation in Gaza."
According to the source, Netanyahu told the IDF to go "all the way," saying "evening a ground operation was currently on the table." According to them, such an operation was far from certain, but that the operation's goal was to increase deterrence and deal Hamas a significant blow.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4539542,00.html
Israel cabinet votes to call up 40,000 reservists
Attila Somfalvi
Published: 07.08.14, 15:23 / Israel News
The security cabinet has voted to call up some 40,000 reservists in preparation of a possible ground operation in Gaza Strip as part of Operation Protective Edge
Attila Somfalvi
Published: 07.08.14, 15:23 / Israel News
The security cabinet has voted to call up some 40,000 reservists in preparation of a possible ground operation in Gaza Strip as part of Operation Protective Edge
Is there any realistic chance to get rid of the Hamas completely or is "dealing a significant blow" as far as it can possibly get?