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The side which considers fighting (in various forms) to be the way to reach its objectives. So far, it fails every time. Egypt wanted to make peace, there is peace. Jordan wanted to make peace, there is peace.


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They made peace after they took their land back by force. You either trolling or ignorant on the issue.
 
When you take historical perceptive into consideration, we have been here many times. The reply to peace offer was violence. Ehud Barak offered almost everything to Arafat. What was the reply? The second intifada. You cannot blame the Israeli population that they lean more right in the next election.


"look what you did with your continuous demanding for your right of self determination, you made us racist right wingers, see"
 
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They made peace after they took their land back by force. You either trolling or ignorant on the issue.
You mean the result of war in which Egypt attacked Israel and lost?

And you say something about ignorance. Maybe it would be better if you say something about education. I suggest history classes.
 
It always makes me laugh when peole bring that argument and I automatically stop taking them seriously.

I mean, you can find the terms of the Camp David Accord in Wikipedia after a 2 seconds research and anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together and/or not completely delusional would see that this "accord" was a farce. The Palestinians already settled for 22% of their original territories, yet Israel with the complicity of the US still stried to strong-arm them to compromise even more, and maintain the total and absolute control of this so-called palestinian state. And then wonder why Arafat walked.

The worst of it was that the Camp David Accord was binding and would forbid the Palestinians to make any further demands or amendements. Without preventing Israel to do whatever it wanted in the future if they felt like it, because Palestine would've had no army to defend itself or control over its own terrritory. It should be also noted that the PA officially recognized Israel in the Oslo Accord in 1995, whilst the latter, and the western countries for that matter, never reciprocated the gesture. To this day.

But hey, gotta go with "pAlesIniAns dOn'T wAnT pEAcE!" narrative.

Do you know why he comes up with this statement? its because he take Bill Maher words as facts :lol:.
 
You dont really have much to say, dont you? Just to attack me. Do you feel victorious?
You're just ridiculously disingenuous, and I really can't understand how anyone with half a brain can have the opinions you have on the topic.
 
You mean the result of war in which Egypt attacked Israel and lost?

And you say something about ignorance. Maybe it would be better if you say something about education. I suggest history classes.

Oh, I know it very well, I know the context of the war in 1973 until camp David 1979, have it not been for the force, Egypt would have not got their land back. So yes, they took it by force.
 
You're just ridiculously disingenuous, and I really can't understand how anyone with half a brain can have the opinions you have on the topic.
Apparently you like to talk a lot about things you dont understand.
 


Highlights in this brilliant video:

1. Derschovitz calls Tutu an anti-Semite. The modern day Ghandi, an anti-semite. :wenger:
2. Israel was a massive supporter of White South Africa and apartheid. Israel hand in hand with Nazis supporting apartheid in SA.
3. Good bits on Starmer, Blair, Corbyn and Lammy.
 


Highlights in this brilliant video:

1. Derschovitz calls Tutu an anti-Semite. The modern day Ghandi, an anti-semite. :wenger:
2. Israel was a massive supporter of White South Africa and apartheid. Israel hand in hand with Nazis supporting apartheid in SA.
3. Good bits on Starmer, Blair, Corbyn and Lammy.

The Apartheid regime of South Africa directly collaborated with Israel in the 70's and 80's to develop its own nukes.
 
Have any of your workplaces made comment about the Genocide in Gaza?

Did your workplaces make comment on the Ukraine war?
 
I think Gaza will be taken by Israel and never returned.

Sadly I think this is the most likely outcome. There seems to be no end in sight for this until they’re all dead, in different countries or surrounded by nothing but rubble. It’s so depressing watching this unfold.
 
Is there even anything underground in palestine except hamas infrastructure? Geologists might need a new term for an entire lair of earth's crust that's solely made of terrorist tunnels.
 
Is there even anything underground in palestine except hamas infrastructure? Geologists might need a new term for an entire lair of earth's crust that's solely made of terrorist tunnels.

The term is "Palestine"'.
 
Have your opinions on genocide changed much since this Kosovo thread? https://www.redcafe.net/threads/us-recognises-kosovo.187532/page-6#post-4334179

Very interesting seeing you debate against people making claims very similar to your own denials here.
No, it does not. If fact what happened in Srebrenica and what happened on October 7 has so much in common. You don't have to take my word for it. Read what the director of the Srebrenica Memorial Centre thinks.

https://n1info.ba/english/news/emir...-of-antisemitism-criticises-hamas-supporters/
 
No, it does not. If fact what happened in Srebrenica and what happened on October 7 has so much in common. You don't have to take my word for it. Read what the director of the Srebrenica Memorial Centre thinks.

https://n1info.ba/english/news/emir...-of-antisemitism-criticises-hamas-supporters/

It probably does yeah as both were atrocities. That doesn't absolve anything that follows though (again an argument in that thread). I'm assuming you haven't bothered to read the thread I posted which is no surprise. Forget your own words go look at those denying genocide in there and you'll see the obvious flaws of your own actions.

Including trying to play this "let me google a quote" game. There was a letter signed by over a thousand Bosnian genocide survivors submitted to the ICJ in support of Palestine and against Israel. Which you'll instantly dismiss of course, they're probably just anti-Semites or something right.
 
It probably does yeah as both were atrocities. That doesn't absolve anything that follows though (again an argument in that thread). I'm assuming you haven't bothered to read the thread I posted which is no surprise. Forget your own words go look at those denying genocide in there and you'll see the obvious flaws of your own actions.

Including trying to play this "let me google a quote" game. There was a letter signed by over a thousand Bosnian genocide survivors submitted to the ICJ in support of Palestine and against Israel.
Lets stop this petty nonsense about games and googling quotes when you googled like 16 year old thread.

But as you mentioned the letter, lets stay there. You see, also in Bosnia you have different perspectives on the issue. As you have everywhere else. Only this thread seems to be a parallel universe.

Which you'll instantly dismiss of course, they're probably just anti-Semites or something right.

As you just dismissed the director of the Srebrenica Memorial Centre? Just like that. I am not going to convince you, you are not going to convince me. I am not even trying to convince you. But this Israel - Palestine Discussion, so don't be surprised different positions to yours are voiced here.