The (non-crazy) woman is an Israeli Arab from their predominantly Arab left wing party.
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It’s funny that he replied to you saying “it’s history, just not one you knew”which defeats his entire point about why the left tends to coalesce against Israel and its apartheid.
Sorry for the late reply and implying naivete. I don't disagree with anything you said. I wish we'd snap out of it as well, it isn't really helpful for anyone anymore. If it ever was. I'm not sure we can equate preferential treatment based on nationality by a state to you doing the same as a medical doctor, though. As you say, you doing so as a doctor would be abhorrent, while a state is expected to do just that. Not a very hopeful attitude, but well...
That is a fcuking joke. He'll get away with it as he's seen as a bit of an out-of-touch figure of fun, but that's a shockingly ignorant thing to ask.
I'm not sure if we're allowed to consider Thomas Friedman on this, but I find this piece excellent: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/16/opinion/israel-gaza-war.html
"My bottom line? Just ask this question: If Israel announced today that it was forgoing, for now, a full-blown invasion of Gaza, who would be happy, and who would be relieved, and who would be upset? Iran would be totally frustrated, Hezbollah would be disappointed, Hamas would feel devastated — its whole war plan came to naught — and Vladimir Putin would be crushed, because Israel would not be burning up ammunition and weapons the U.S. needs to be sending to Ukraine. The settlers in the West Bank would be enraged.
Meanwhile, the parents of every Israeli soldier and every Israeli held hostage would be relieved, every Palestinian in Gaza caught in the crossfire would be relieved, and every friend and ally Israel has in the world — starting with one Joseph R. Biden — would be relieved. I rest my case."
"My bottom line? Just ask this question: If Israel announced today that it was forgoing, for now, a full-blown invasion of Gaza, who would be happy, and who would be relieved, and who would be upset? Iran would be totally frustrated, Hezbollah would be disappointed, Hamas would feel devastated — its whole war plan came to naught — and Vladimir Putin would be crushed, because Israel would not be burning up ammunition and weapons the U.S. needs to be sending to Ukraine. The settlers in the West Bank would be enraged.
Meanwhile, the parents of every Israeli soldier and every Israeli held hostage would be relieved, every Palestinian in Gaza caught in the crossfire would be relieved, and every friend and ally Israel has in the world — starting with one Joseph R. Biden — would be relieved. I rest my case."
Hard to argue with his logic.
spot on actually
More like "oh you're from Ireland, did you know the where the bomb was?"
I've had to read this twice tbh to get it, missed "foregoing"
No.
The left wing MK is Arab (Christian by the way). The one saying that children brought this on themselves is from the party of Lapid, not the Likud. She’s from the opposition.
Probably the first sensible piece I've read from him in years
S’why he’s the goat.
I think this is the most painfully pedantic/deliberately obtuse I've ever seen you be in a thread, and that is saying something.
I'll take that as a win.
He's been pretty vocal about violations of Palestinian human rights for over a decade now.
This was probably funnier in your head, pal.
It’s just pure offensive in reality
Yeah that wasn’t a joke. I think you know exactly what it was.
Sarcastic drivel.
When I read that Palestinians need to get rid of Hamas, Israelis also must to do their part.
Ok. Whatever.
Seriously, though. I know it’s your mission to spam the ever living shite out of this thread with every tweet you come across that you like and is vaguely relevant to the topic. And that’s your perogative.
But does it make you think for even a moment when you share a tweet about some investigative journalism from the BBC - uncovering possible war crimes by Israel - having previously shared a bunch of hysterical tweets about how the BBC is determined to conceal and minimise all of Israel’s wrongdoings?
How is what @Pogue Mahone said offensive or a joke? People in this thread are actively looking for ways to feel offended and slighted by the media.
I wish it was just the people in this thread.
Great article, thanks for sharing.
I'm saying there is a strong history of anti-zionism especially on the British hard left that originated in something other than concern for Palestinian rights. Which is why we see a left right split on the subject in modern UK politics that we don't necessarily see elsewhere in the same way.
If you are interested in a bit of background information, I have just watched and can recommend a new film called Golda, starring the excellent Helen Mirren. It is a biographical drama about Golda Meir and is set against the background of the Yom Kippur War.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...UQFnoECA0QAQ&usg=AOvVaw0z7e8cOaU52pUPwnSEr6TR
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...UQFnoECA0QAQ&usg=AOvVaw0z7e8cOaU52pUPwnSEr6TR
Describing anything as 'zionist' is anti-semitic dogwhistling.
So anyone that supports Israel and/or is Jewish can say from the river to the sea and its an expression of their nationalism. Anyone supporting the Palestinians saying the same is an anti-semitic baby head chopper.
Have I got that right...?
Have I got that right...?
He also repeatedly trashed the idea of hosting a WC in Qatar, so at least he speaks his mind.
No, like much else you have contributed with in this thread.
In the meantime over 115 attacks on healthcare units have been bombed in Gaza, according to the UN. Edited.
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Just standard border skirmish things.
Have you met Pogue?
Both sides in the north have been testing the opposing side to see how they respond. An interesting subplot in the lead up to a ground invasion where Hezbollah will undoubtedly react with rockets.
Yes indeed. It is typical of the unfortunate way that almost everything nowadays is either 100% one way or 100% the other.
And if you dare to say anything different to someone else, what you are saying is called Offensive.
It is so infantile in the extreme.
Thoughts on this ? @2cents and others.
Seems to have gone viral and attracted a lot of positive comments from a diversity of global viewers. He debunks the predictable Hasbara claims and says he's actually anti-Israeli government at the beginning.
Seems to have gone viral and attracted a lot of positive comments from a diversity of global viewers. He debunks the predictable Hasbara claims and says he's actually anti-Israeli government at the beginning.