Tehran celebrating the imminent deaths, destruction and occupation in Gaza.
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Hamas have their own objectives in how to deal with Israel. The Iranians are more than happy to supply them as it allows them to fight the Israelis through a proxy, just as the US is fighting Russia by way of US weapons in Ukraine. Ultimately, its Hamas who are using the weapons and its them who will face the 90% of the retaliation.
His follow-up posts have confirmed that hypothesis.
Yeah for anyone that tries to be honest the reality of the matter is that any violent act is wrong but at the same time, it's impossible to tell palestinians to shut up and accept their fate peacefully. If they actually had the support or protection of powerful nation it would be a good argument but they don't.
It's actually a strange situation, the only realistic actions are to support Israel or ignore the conflict, the other alternative isn't actually on the table.
Just don't think a terrorist group like Hamas has the ability & funding to execute a multi-domain attack along such a long axis with impressive timing without a nation-state(s) assistance, especially in the intelligence aspect.
They age old artificial confluence of religion and race. Arabs are semetic people as are Jews. You can argue petty tribal differences if you go back far enough, but essentially thats all they are, petty differences. If you were to DNA test your average Israeli and your average Palistinian then genetically the average Palistinian would probably be closer to the original inhabitants of the Levant.
I'm not surprised by Hamas' ability to do it, as its a pretty basic attack (albeit on many simultaneous fronts). The surprising thing is their ability to evade being detected by Israeli and western intelligence during the planning process. They have apparently stopped using electronic devices and moved to human courier only, and in the process also disaggregated their planning cells so that no cell member knows what other cell members are doing, which also makes it hard to detect planning.
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It will be good for the Palestinians if Israel completely destroys gaza.
Can we label Russia a nazi state trying to exterminate imaginary jewish Nazis? Perhaps its just more on point to just label regimes as evil if they are evil and fascist if they are fascist. Or just opressive totalitarians.
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That’s not what failing means though. Failing at something is intrinsically linked to design and expectation. If it wasn’t designed or expected to be able to deal with 2000+ rockets in one morning then surely it hasn’t failed? If we don’t link it to expectation then we might as well say that you failed too, given you didn’t stop any!
Thank you too. I believe it's just hard facts. Israel is the eternal enemy, no matter how many they kill or don't kill in Gaza. And they will leverage this fact and the anger and kill many. It's not pretty. It's shit. And that makes it difficult for people to be honest. I know many here are happy to see the pain of Israeli citizens today, whether they can say so or not. And I don't blame them. Just as I believe Israeli pain will manifest in dark and brutal revenge, and I don't blame them either. It's a neverending and escalating cycle that can only end in ethnic cleansing now.
The F35 doesn't even have the range to reach Tehran from Israel... They'd need refueling on both the outward and inwards leg in hostile airspace. They would use the F15. They also don't have the weaponry to hit where it matters. You'd realistically need a B2. Manned air attacks in Iran are fantasy.
I think there were multiple reports that Israel did this several times and Iran even fired some high-star general for that.
https://theaviationgeekclub.com/iri...alth-fighters-had-violated-iran-airspace/amp/
https://www.timesofisrael.com/repor...an-airspace-repeatedly-during-war-drills/amp/
Fair enough, what is the term used when you reach a point where a system stops functioning? If there is a better word, I will gladly take it.
Lack of capacity
Lack of capicity isn't a point.
It has the lack of capacity to deal with so many rockets in a short span of time?
What I’d like to ask Hamas is what is their objective and how does this advance that?
That's still not a point. Generally you will describe that point as a point of failure or a breaking point, I'm not really sure why this is even a point of contention, it wasn't even the crux of the post which was that it took me a bit of time to realize the pictures were in fact in Israel.
If there's a strategic motive, its likely to bait the Israelis into attacking Gaza, then use the ensuing spectacle of death and destruction to draw global attention to the situation in Gaza. Unfortunately for them, it will probably result in the Israelis wiping out Hamas and reoccupying Gaza, which will result in thousands of deaths.
Not sure, though there will likely be some techie word for it. Perhaps it shot down all the rockets that it has the capacity to shoot down. In which case you’d just say it worked ‘at full capacity’, and just acknowledge that the amount of rockets exceeded the capacity of the system. That’s assuming it actually did that though, which I suspect we’ll never know.
Never mind i got off on the wrong foot here.
Saudis put two-state solution upon the table prior to any peace talks (and Saudi minister just back from West Bank).
If I didn't have to guess, it would be the predicted, not predictable, response to Israeli movements (driven by extremist factions) within what has to be called Palestine for an Israel, via two state solution, to exist. Predicted in this thread. Doesn't take a genius. You can only push a people so far before they respond and the response isn't just, no one says it is, but you can absolutely understand it because it has been literally predicted.
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I get this is a 'trust me bro' comment, but those 1. Used aerial refueling as per the articles 2. Weren't in a combat configuration. This is the most comprehensive analysis you will find on the 35's range online. #12 is a diagram from Lockheed Martin as below. This subreddit is also the best non classified [and probably better than many classified] sources on the F35 in general.
TLDR: It could probably just about reach Iran, but would need refueling to execute any sort of combat sortie, and would only be able to carry internals. (This is the big problem; you'd need externals in Iran) Israel knows it can't hit Iran for all intents and purposes; it just doesn't have the capacity. If they do procure the F15EX that could change things, but I'd argue they still don't have the weaponry.
Oh yeah there are definitely better, more descriptive, more precise words to use.
I’m just acknowledging that it’s not unusual to describe a state that way, it’s not something that was conjured up for this instance or has particularly concerning overtones.
Describing an entire religious group that way would be unusual and would take on a different meaning. Conflating the two ideas is at least disingenuous, and appears much more sinister.
Israel are not going to wipe out an entity that they created.
The Arab League is at its most influential since its formation. Time is on its side. Iranian-Saudi talks are what people here, minus diehard Geopol types or natives, are entirely missing. They have been negotiating publicly and privately for two or more years straight with actual/tangible benefits. This isn't an Iranian conspiracy. That's pure fabrication. You'd have a point if we were talking about a northern (which was/has been in the offing) movement (stand-off as it goes). But here, no point to be had. Factionalism, Fatah/IJ/Hamas, general broad support for the Palestinian cause actually deriving from centres of power (regionally, and not just symbolic but ground-based trade necessities), and then go back as long as you want say "how long is a piece of string".
And where are the civilians expected to go...a nice airbnb in Tel Aviv perhaps?
They're going to give it their best shot. This is after all Netanyahu backed fully by the US, who will be hellbent on revenge.
Is this why they're taking so many hostages?
Nthanyahu. There has never been an Israeli leader less liked by the West (given the broader necessities of security vis-a-vis Arab League, into/across Africa, and general (good, for once in everyone's lifetime) trade movements between the Arab League which, despite never liking each other that much, as all know, see the future as Arab League bloc necessity. One of the most influential of all possible blocs in the coming decade or so (counters all kinds of forces whether it's Russia, China, or the US). I.e., this generation of Arab diplomats will not accept a Chinese/Russian/US (whomever) imposition. You see the Saudis/Iranians and the Turks playing a very long "game" (a necessary one). What gets lost here is the numeous Arab and even Israeli trade agreements which, until two-state (or three, or whatever) is settled, will always be a disastrous distraction.
The US can take Egypt and Saudi Arabia, economically, and in defense terms, i.e., the entire bloc (same as China/EU or whomever), now, whereas 60 years ago, or even 20, it couldnt.
There will be the inevitable Israeli response, already happening, but if they go in again (to Gaza, full-scale) you might see a legitimate war (not civil). Northern (Syrian, etc) and from Lebanon have been camped for months now. No one wants that to happen, not the US, nor the Palestinians (nor the Israelis). It's a complete clusterfeck of a situation which the world by and large let go for 20 years (due to regional security issues and other "more important" places/positions). Its status is firmly back near the top of the world's agenda, and has to be, for Israeli security itself (deals with the Gulf region and a novel, which I would put my entire political blood into, scheme to incorporate Israeli know-how regarding irrigation to solve the water issues with Jordan and via Arab League as bloc, an already touted green wall from once side of northern africa to the other, which the Saudis, too, have helped engineer (of late).
This and probably as a bargaining chip to release high ranking terrorists.
But I'm pretty sure 50-100 hostages won't stop Netanyahu on his revenge crusade, as hard as it sounds. And their best shot of being liberated is fast action in my opinion. If you give Hamas time to hide them and threaten barbarism like ISIS did, it's gonna get worse.
Pretty heartbreaking watching those buildings collapse and families entire lives turn to ashes, however you feel about things.
Yeah I think the Israelis will try to get their people out, but won't hold back from going in to dismantle Hamas once and for all.
What?
I already despise Netanyahu's regime for what they do to Palestinians on a regular basis, but Hamas are definitely in the category of "the stupidest of the stupid" because what they just did is definitely not how to get people and nations on their side. Bigoted fanatics, man... 
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