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What is Natenyahu going to do now? He is not going to let it go.
Something about Bennett being PM just feels wrong.
This is so interesting.
Is there a reason why Bennett and Lapid will be the PMs as opposed to, say, Lapid and Gantz? The latter two's parties have the most seats / votes?
The above was written a few hours before the coalition was confirmed.
Bennett is the primary kingmaker despite his party only holding a few seats, so he gets what he wants most right now, which is to be PM. He had other options - his natural position is in a right wing religious-nationalist coalition - but he chose this route for the very purpose of ousting Netanyahu and being PM, which was his condition for joining. Gantz had his shot previously, got played by Netanyahu and blew it, and now has nowhere else to go.
I don’t think it’s a positive step that someone like this is legitimized through the office of PM, but on the other hand he’s not significantly worse than Netanyahu (who would have brought the Kahanists into government) and the potential legitimization and integration of the Arab parties into Israel politics may balance it and can only be positive in the long-run IMO.
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Assasinate a few people?
I mean I really wouldnt put it past him and he only needs one nutter to take out a few people (ideally for him a false flag hamas type attack) and then he can slide back into power... avoid prosecution and as a bonus for him he will get to bomb schools and hospitals as revenge... yeah i really wouldnt put that past him
Thanks. That's the case for all of the coalition parties (re ousting Bibi).
Agree with your second para too - there's obviously an uneasiness that someone with such far right rhetoric, but the initial signs I'd say are positive. It also gets a seat at the table for the whole political spectrum, which was impossible with Bibi.
This puts to bed the idea that Hamas are only interesting in killing every Israeli and wants to 'wipe them off the map' as some posters asserted to.
Head the opposition, terrorize the government and hope it falls soon so that he gets a chance to return to power.
I hope he doesn't terrorize the rest of the world. What is the difference between a country like Venezuela or Bolivia to Israeli. " democracy"? Incumbent refusing to accept the results and threatening the opposition? I forget to add the USA.
It’s hard to argue with one word Sinwar says there tbh. Edit: And now video is unavailable. Nothing suspicious about that at all.
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He'll just try to rile up the far right wing extremists again in hopes of inciting another assassination like he did of Rabin.
It’s still working for me?
Very suspicious that they are trying to prevent you from viewing the truth, but not the rest of us.
I hope he doesn't terrorize the rest of the world. What is the difference between a country like Venezuela or Bolivia to Israeli. " democracy"? Incumbent refusing to accept the results and threatening the opposition? I forget to add the USA.
We were pretty decent in the democracy stuff untill the last few years, when the combination of Netanyahu's obsession with positive media coverage, the control he gained on his followers and party, and the investigations which totally made him lose and and put himself over the country, really kicked in.
Unfortunately the people who founded Israel and the politicians since then never bothered adding a law that forbids someone from being PM if his indiceted, probably since they never thought anyone would insist on holding on to the role in such a situation.
Now I expect our own version of the Capitol attack before Netanyahu is officially ousted, if he is. It's not a certainty yet.
Apologies all for jumping to that conclusion. It was more likely restrictions on my work laptop that caused the issue.
Hmmm, were you though? We all know that if Gaza and the West Bank had been empty, they would have been annexed long ago. When a third of the people you rule over can't vote, I'm not sure that constitutes a "decent" democracy.
In a perverse way, Nethanyahu and Trump will probably be the two most beneficial factors to equality for Palestinians. Combination of each just exposed what was already there, and most people knew about, but was below the surface and not so blatant.
Good article. I didn’t know that Yesh Din had also written a legal opinion that the crime of apartheid is being committed in the West Bank.
Just to add to the conversation, the reason why Gaza is in such a state as it is now, is because its population was dissatisfied with the corruption of Israel and the West's partner of choice (Fatah/PLO) and exercised their democratic right to the ultimate protest vote of Hamas. A democratic choice, which Israel and the West didn't particularly like and the former proceeded to blockade the territory over any and every possible crossing or passing.
That doesn't sound particularly democratic to me, either.
If decent means, the best in the middle east, yeah.. hard to argue with that.
The latter does not have anything to do with democracy. You can still boycott or close the borders.
Meanwhile the leader of UNRWA has been kicked out of Gaza by Hamas. He pointed out that the israeli strikes were indeed precise and effective from a military point of view.
How many democracies are there in the Middle East to compare it to?
More of the same from the israelis, no accountability in their provocations (storming the worshipper in the mosque, forced evictions, targeting media buildings, and civilian ones) in this latest round of ethnic cleansing
Exactly. And I think some people will read that and think that it’s some great endorsement of Israel. But it could only be that if democracy (leaving aside Israel’s vast failings in that area for now) was inherently better than other forms of government. But of course that is an entirely subjective viewpoint in itself.None.
Watching al Jazeera and they just showed a recent video of their lady reporter, clearly wearing a bullet proof Press vest, being taken away by Israeli soldiers in the Al Jarrah neighbourhood. She was trying to report from within the neighborhood.
Don't they usually target the press in all facist countries?
Don't they usually target the press in all facist countries?
"We can't breathe... since 1948". The BLM's undivided support for the Palestinian cause.
https://www.theweek.co.uk/news/worl...s-thrown-weight-behind-palestinian-solidarity
https://www.theweek.co.uk/news/worl...s-thrown-weight-behind-palestinian-solidarity
I'd argue that despite its obvious flaws, Lebanon is more democratic, and much less discriminatory to minorities, and most importantly actively anti-sectarian, than Israel.
Palestine has had its democracy stripped away from it.
I suppose you would have to separate Israeli-Arabs who are Israeli citizens from Palestinians in the WB and Gaza in this regard. Israeli-Arab's, as far as I know, are full citizens and are not mandated to join the IDF.
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Israeli Arabs are still treated like second class citizens though, along with Ethiopian Jews. You’d have Palestinians as 3rd class citizens.
This lady Diana (pic above) died a day after the documentary above was finished. She lost two daughters in the recent round of killings by Israel. She leaves behind a nephew she adopted after he lost his parents in the 2014 killings by Israel. He’s lost both his mums to Israeli violence.