Not saying it’s not PR. There’s plenty of PR involved in this conflict.
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what was the purpose of your post then, other than sharing and pushing the PR stunt?
To show an actuality that happened in the conflict & hope that more like it could occur while the conflict rages on.
Bizarre that you think I’m automatically taking the side of one of the participants through posting this & am trying to champion the insane belief that the IDF is the ‘most humane military in the world’ when apparently a couple of soldiers thought better of indiscriminately killing children & halted an operation.
A small positive by the IDF can be highlighted without one being an absolute acolyte for the institution or their beliefs. Not everything is so zero sum.
@Fearless is definitely suspect. I think she might actually be Ayelet Shaked.
Always the right wing crazy nutters who are attractive.
Tomi Lahren?
Was just about to post that...Tomi Lahren?
Holyland red definitely posted about football and, more importantly, was an actual Israeli who I believe lived in a city in the South of Israel which was the frequent target of rockets. While I disagreed with pretty much everything they posted, it isn't exactly difficult to see how someone like that could form the views they had. During heated flare-ups, the level of discourse all-round dropped of course but I do remember them making efforts to engage. They also didn't descend into open islamophobia/ barely concealed anti-Arab racism as Fearless often does.
Fearless I genuinely don't think has ever posted anything that wasn't related to this conflict/ offensive to Muslims or Arabs, or occasionally I believe a few things on Trump. I'm also pretty sure they've said before they live in Scotland.
Yeah Holyland wasn't a bad egg. We can't all agree on everything, and as Africanspur said he was in the thick of it. That said he was a feisty one in the CE forum, he he! Fearless in the other hand has always been a bot. There are couple like that who turn up in Glazers threads as well. The internet eh.
This is how I remember HR. I chatted with him quite a lot via PM and he was not a bad guy at all. He had his side obviously, but he’s exactly the centrist type of Israeli who could be swayed to make sacrifices for peace under the right conditions.
As you hint at, I’m pretty sure the other poster isn’t Israeli.
Fearless isn’t Israeli, he’s a very naughty boy.
Anyone know out of the Palestinian death toll, how many of those are hamas terrorists? It seems like people/media are intentionally reporting the civilian death toll together with the terrorist death toll.
weird terrorist HQ!
You're trolling Fearless for posting Youtube videos, and yet you come up with this absolute trainwreck of a post in which you categorize 9 million people because 'you saw a video of a guy on social media'. Pathetic.
Unfortunately, most people subscribe to social media content that they agree with then get worked up over what shows up on their feeds and post it in here.
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This comes after a story I read earlier today of 22 members of one family killed in the space of 10 hours.
I get your point but you have posters like @Amir who are also in the thick of it, but are able to maintain a level head and call out injustice when they see it.
Ill be honest, Ive been reading a lot of this thread and a lot on reddit and Im finding myself really starting to hate Israel. I have no connection what so ever to anyone in that fight, but the shit we are seeing is just horrific. So if Im feeling it, and Im very very far removed from it. I can only imagine the hatred that is inside people there and connected to it.
Is it any different to what fearless has been doing the past few days?
i know they aren't suffering at the level of people in gaza but i feel very hopeless when i see these people.
if i believed in god and related stuff, i'd feel better about them i guess
if i believed in god and related stuff, i'd feel better about them i guess
It's funny, cos I would actually take issue with the Islamophobic remarks. I have vague recollections of more than a few from HR during that time. Happy to agree to disagree though as he's now banned and we can't bring his posts up.
I don't think he is banned and I can search his posts. He just stopped posting in 2015.
Not being funny, but for someone who said he wants to find a balanced view of the issue, you ain't half trying and straining to find the views which paint one side as the aggressor and the other as victims.
First the laughable Twitter thread which was full of half truths and now a video recording of a fringe maniac...
Is there something you want to say? Feel free to do so, I mean Fearless has free reign in this thread to say what they want, and you should too
I tried searching his posts just a couple of days ago and couldn't. He doesn't come up when I search by member either.
I’m not trying to do anything, just came across that on Twitter just now.Not being funny, but for someone who said he wants to find a balanced view of the issue, you ain't half trying and straining to find the views which paint one side as the aggressor and the other as victims.
First the laughable Twitter thread which was full of half truths and now a video recording of a fringe maniac...
Is there something you want to say? Feel free to do so, I mean Fearless has free reign in this thread to say what they want, and you should too
The word is pussyfooting.Not being funny, but for someone who said he wants to find a balanced view of the issue, you ain't half trying and straining to find the views which paint one side as the aggressor and the other as victims.
First the laughable Twitter thread which was full of half truths and now a video recording of a fringe maniac...
Is there something you want to say? Feel free to do so, I mean Fearless has free reign in this thread to say what they want, and you should too
The first post in this thread is criticising the IDF for shooting protestors throwing rocks.
Here are 1,800 of his posts in one thread.
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/israeli-palestinian-conflict.306471/
He's not banned either. Just stopped posting one day.
I mean you said you saw the tweet on your timeline, looking at the replies to the tweet is full of xenophobic responses. Should be careful who you follow and propogate.
Pretty much any tweet about Israel/Palestine is followed by racist bile.
I don’t follow the person above on Twitter.
I have been looking through his posts. I remember discussing these things via PM with him in 2007 and he was talking about a two-state solution. Then looking at this from 2010 he seems much more resigned.
Would it be a stretch to say that this is indicative of a lot of the electorate and Netanyahu's stay in power? The peace camp and the idea of peace has become so remote that voters turn en masse to a politician who promises security without any mention of a final peace settlement?
What a cnut. You guys go to war, and we in the west will make dua (Muslim prayers) for you. Disgusting fecker!
Nah, he's not a bot or a paid poster. (I just quoted you but I know others are saying this as well).
There are tons of people in the US that simply believe the Israeli right's narrative. They don't have to pay anyone when plenty of people simply feel that way.
People should be challenged on what they say but the whole "paid poster" narrative gets old. When I used to have a Facebook account that had everyone I'd ever met on it, I'd see plenty of pro-Israel posts from right-wingers that sounded exactly like Fearless and they most definitely were not being paid.
Some people just think that way on their own.
More like modern day cnut or fake Facebook muslim. If he was half real muslim he wouldn't call for war but he would cry for peace.
We need to wade through the extremist voices to get to a peaceful solution. We know that there is hate on both sides and that it does not help achieve any resolution. All we get are temporary cessations of hostilities. Israeli's and Palestinians need a peaceful co-existence based on respect; born without get out of jail free cards, land grabs, expulsions or deaths.
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Not a stretch at all, this is the story of the Israeli centre in the last 20 years.