ISIS in Iraq and Syria

Kobane has been fully liberated. Historical day for Kurdistan and the fight against ISIS. :D



 
Huge blow for ISIS propaganda, with their fighters now running for their lives in the Kobane countryside with Kurds on their back and American jets watching their every movement.

Going to be a great few weeks.
 
The final aim of the YPG is to rid ISIS in Rojava. This could take a year or more, but I believe it will happen if they are supported by the West and the coalition.
 
2cents said:
Adnani's latest speech - https://ia902702.us.archive.org/22/items/Klimaah/En.pdf

He claims the Islamic State has expanded into Khorasan (Af-Pak region), which kind of puts them at odds with the Taliban. It'll be interesting to see if there's a response from Mullah Omar and Zawahiri.
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The fighting will just spill over to other areas. This is a huge mess thats just gonna get worse. Any time a group pledges allegiance to ISIS you can expect them to cause absolute carnage in surrounding areas.

Huge news for Kurds with ISIS now, I think, limited to the countrysides. If kurds carry on this kind of offensive then it could be disastrous for ISIS and the last thing they want is to be annihilated at this point in time.
 
lol Erdogan, surprised he didn't just put up an ISIS flag. Bet he's gutted they had failed miserably at Kobane :D

If ISIS are now pushing onto Pak-Afghan territory then let's hope they and the Taliban just end up killing each other off, the whole region would be delighted.
 
Suli said:
Kobane has been fully liberated. Historical day for Kurdistan and the fight against ISIS. :D



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Kaos said:
lol Erdogan, surprised he didn't just put up an ISIS flag. Bet he's gutted they had failed miserably at Kobane :D

If ISIS are now pushing onto Pak-Afghan territory then let's hope they and the Taliban just end up killing each other off, the whole region would be delighted.
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Im not sure if you know but the yanks have labelled the taliban as an "armed insurgency" and the isis as a "terrorist group". Its the same old good and bad terrorist game being played.
 
VidaRed said:
Im not sure if you know but the yanks have labelled the taliban as an "armed insurgency" and the isis as a "terrorist group". Its the same old good and bad terrorist game being played.
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So terrorists are being armed in Syria and the Taliban are also now the good guys? Are we going back to the 80s?
 
ISIS apparently trying to destroy ancient Babylonian walls :lol: wdf is wrong with these fools? The real Caliphate back in the day didn't seem to have any problems with historical artefacts and ruins, so why on earth is this "caliphate" such cnuts?

Probably the fault of Saudi's and their Wahhabi ideology, once oil becomes irrelevant, it's going to be hilarious what becomes of them.
 
The statistics of martyrs from the fight for Kobane:

YPG: 408
Thuwar al-Raqqa: 13
Peshmerga: 1
MLKP: 2
Shams al-Shamal: 2
 
Zarlak said:
Genuinely what happens when they leave the area and IS goes straight back? Do we go back to square 1?
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IS usually attack, leave, attack again. Fighting is still ongoing so I guess the kurds gotta keep tgeir guard up.
 
Looks like IS may have reached the limits of expansion in Iraq and maybe Syria for the moment. Here's an article suggesting they'll pivot south and attempt to take advantage of uncertainty in Saudi Arabia - http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com...-its-time-for-isis-to-take-the-war-south.html

Abdullah is Dead. ISIS has an opportunity to flip the Kingdom. Here's how.
Last week I wrote that ISIS would attack Saudi Arabia this spring. This week the opportunity to attack with a high likelihood of success arrived: The King of Saudi Arabia died today. Unfortunately for the Saudi's, King Abdulla died before his Kingdom's gambit to gain control of ISIS paid off. Here's what they were trying to do but failed to pull off in time:


  • Saudi Arabia has been pumping oil like crazy to drive the price of oil down. It worked. Prices dropped. Lower oil prices are undercuting the funding ISIS gets from its illicit oil sales across the region.
  • Given time, the Saudis believed that this reduction in funding from oil sales would eventually force ISIS to approach Saudi Arabia for financial support. When it did ask for financial help, the Kingdom would be able to gain the leverage necessary to neutralize the threat it posed (as it did with al Qaeda decades earlier).
  • Needless to say, this gambit didn't work. ISIS proved much more resilient financially than al Qaeda and other non-state groups are. ISIS has many, many more sources of income than donations from sympathisers and oil sales.

The failure of this gambit means that with the death of the King, ISIS may have a golden opportunity to pivot south to take Mecca and Medina. A southern pivot would capitalize on the increased fragility (of an already fragile country) caused by the succession. It would also allow ISIS to continue the its impressive string of victories in the field. However, this won't be a conventional war. It's going to be an open source war to win a moral victory. Here's a taste for how they would do it:


  • ISIS would pivot forces from Syria and Iraq for a push south (indications are that this is apparently already underway), and then use these forces to rapidly overwhelm numerous border posts to create widespread confusion within the Saudi security forces. If done correctly, the rapid advances of black flags will cause a mass rout that will yield significant equipment and a considerable number of new jihadis (as troops flip to join the ISIS jihad).
  • Simultaneous with the drive south, cells of ISIS jihadis and lone sympathizers will activate across the Kingdom, causing disruption and confusion. With this, lines of authority and communication within the kingdom will begin to break down.
  • The advancing jihad will connect with local forces along a massive front moving south, jumping from city to city. The speed of this will depend on how willing the population is to accept ISIS. However, since Saudi Arabia has already indoctrinated its population with a religious ideology that is sympathetic to ISIS, the speed of the advance may be very rapid.
What will this attack on Saudi Arabia mean? Here are the worst potential outcomes.


  • The borders of Saudi Arabia might be completely rewritten within the next couple of months. >> Once humpty dumpty is broken, all the kings horses and all the kings men won't be able to put it together again.
  • In desperation, US ground troops would be deployed to defend the oil fields in the east (Ghawar, etc.). This deployment would radically increase the ability of ISIS to recruit and potentially turn this into a regional jihad.
  • The advance of ISIS would result in massive refugee populations of Shia (towards Iraq) due to a religious cleansing of towns and cities across the kingdom.

PS: If this doesn't occur, ISIS missed the opportunity, and we're all better off for their mistake.


PPS: ISIS is a theocratic network of networks that is both entrepreneurial and dynamic. The KSA is a theocratic hierarchy that's risk averse and inflexible. Which one wins?
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dunno if that article mentions it but they smuggled dozens of fighters over to Saudi recently.
 
Also, I dont see sunnis turning against Is anymore seeing as there was a recent sunni massacre carried out by shia and the Iraqi government did nothing but watch.

It seems that every time theres hope something just goes against the coalition due to the Iraqi armies stupidity.
 
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Also, I dont see sunnis turning against Is anymore seeing as there was a recent sunni massacre carried out by shia and the Iraqi government did nothing but watch.

It seems that every time theres hope something just goes against the coalition due to the Iraqi armies stupidity.
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Shia militias mostly had free reign since Maliki came into power and continue to do so, its not the first time they've carried out killings on such a large scale. Only surprise was the Western backed Iraqi army was also involved alongside them in killing civilians in Diyala few days back.

This Shia militias have been hyped up as some sort of amazing army with great moral values fighting enemies of Iraq, but in reality they are bunch of barbaric thugs cut from the same cloth that of ISIS, who are fighting on sectarian lines rather then act to defend Iraq as they like to say.
 
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