they burned him alive? wow
ISIS in Iraq and Syria
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feck me. That's dark.
The evidence people on twitter are using is that the punishment can be applied if it happened to muslims. So since he bombed (effectively fire) muslims, they set him on fire in retaliation.
Its really terrible and I feel sorry for him. War is so ugly.
What the feck 
They are not people. they are pro-ISIS
This old argument has been used before by Qaeda and all. You can nullify it using this argument that I heard before. Is a Muslim permitted to rape Serbian women 'cause of them raping Muslim Bosnian woman.
Plus the verse they use for this, they cut it in the middle , and 2) they don't mention the context. Same tactics used by non-Muslims in debates around the Koran
mannnn this is terrible.
fecking disgusting.
Jordan confirms it will kill isis prisoners tonight
What a startling hypocrisy by religious apologists.
Using fire to torture people = pure evil.....unless it is God who does it, then it is justice.
Using fire to torture people = pure evil.....unless it is God who does it, then it is justice.
Source?
Yep. But then all religious people I know are complete hypocrites when it comes to morality. The god of the bible for example is one of the most evil beings ever conceived. And yet they worship it. The god of the quran must be at least as bad judging by what it inspires people to do.
All I have to say is that organised Religion has no place in modern society. The problem with religious authority is it almost inevitably gives rise to events such as this.
The way he screams is so depressing.
Good point.
The verse being used on Twitter to condemn this act of barbarity actually refers to Allah as 'the Lord of Fire'. Unbelievable. Do these people have no sense of irony? I would be on the floor laughing if I wasn't so enraged.
What sort of person worships a psychopath?
That Hadith is about the fire of Hell. So a person's punishment after judgement. Context. Read. Learn.The verse being used on Twitter to condemn this act of barbarity actually refers to Allah as 'the Lord of Fire'. Unbelievable. Do these people have no sense of irony? I would be on the floor laughing if I wasn't so enraged.
What sort of person worships a psychopath?
It's easy to think so, but the only difference is probably that these sickos are broadcasting their crimes to such an extent.
Ugandas Idi Amin buried people alive and fed people to his crocodiles. In Bosnia during the 90s all sides were doing unspeakable atrocities to each other, nailing kids to walls, cutting off a guys package stuffing his mouth with it, while alive of course, raping a village of women in front of the men, Serbian necktie etc. In Gujarat, India, in 2002 there were documented reports of Hindus making Muslim kids drink gasoline before turning them into living torches, mass rapes, dismembering, burning houses full of people. Rwanda wasn't exactly pretty either, and god knows what went on in Cambodia during the 70s.
A portion of the human race is basically a bunch of psychopath wankers is my take on it, if war breaks out it might even be your neighbor.
Why are people viewing the images/watching the video? Unless it's for security reasons I can't see any reason why you would put yourself through that or give them the publicity.
Curiosity. I've watched all of their videos, and I can't say I've been helping their cause by doing so...
And I bet some of them will haunt you for a very long time.
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Not directly no, though in an ideal world they'd have no audience at all.
The burning of the pilot was quite sad. ISIS are obviously cruisin for a brusin in the near future.
Nah, none of them stay in my head. Although this one did hit me quite hard, I haven't felt that bad from one of their videos ever.
IS videos are so slickly produced, they don't really affect me like the Zarqawi beheading videos of about ten years ago.
I think this is true. War can lead normal people into doing terrible things but it also attracts abnormally sadistic people looking for a way to express themselves too. Some of the people who burned the pilot may feel sick/guilty/ashamed but others will have enjoyed it.
Just read about the guy getting burned alive, the barbaric feckurs need nuking.
Any faith promoting eternal torture 'after judgement' is merely a sadistic cult in my eyes. I think the belief that being burnt alive in hell is acceptable, is equivocal to the behaviour of these so-called extremists; the only difference is who you decide deserves it. As a global society, we've mostly progressed past the retarded 'eye for an eye' rationalities of the past. Sadly, the Abrahamic religions are still stuck in the distant past.
The Western media gives them all the airtime that they need.
It's not the same though as their own direct propaganda videos. Coverage of ISIS goes well beyond "Western Media" as well so I'm not sure what the argument is there, clearly this activity is also being reported on a lot of Arabic/Eastern networks.
I think the Western media has actively tried to give them less coverage recently. It is still too much. At the end of the day it is a handful of people deliberately being killed in a gruesome way to capture headlines. It works, but frankly we have more important things to worry about. The actual risk that IS And Islamic extremism poses to me and you is virtually insignificant.
What is that based on? Sure, on a statistical level it's much more likely we'll be hurt crossing the road or whatever, but that doesn't mean there isn't an active and present danger from extremism that needs to be countered against. Sadly it's inevitable that there will be another terrorist attack on UK soil in future. I don't think it's realistic to expect media not to cover the issues in Iraq/Syria at all, and if they did go for radio silence there would be an inevitable outcry that 'the West doesn't care about what's not happening on its own soil'.
I think you're also muddling the number of filmed executions published by ISIS with the number of murders they have committed in total. They, alongside other Islamic extremist groups, have been responsible for much more than a 'handful' of deaths.
Western deaths, or deaths of people from rich countries, the ones that the Western media cares about. I am aware that IS are killing a lot more Muslims in their Middle Eastern conflicts. Since when did the West care about that though?
I do believe a climate of fear suits the media and the government. It sell papers and allows for the government to drive through greater surveillance powers over its population. It also keeps the public distracted and looking away from domestic issues, things like social inequality and the inherent corruption of our own political system.
One thing all the oxygen does for IS is lionise it in the eyes of those disaffected domestic Muslims that are vulnerable to recruitment.
We obviously have completely different assessments of the situation. I've never subscribed to this popular view that politicians and media hounds sit there rubbing their hands waiting for another atrocity so they can bypass House of Lords reform or a welfare committee. Burying bad news happens of course, but the situation you've outlined is a stretch beyond that and much more sinister. Government simply isn't organised in that way and whilst our Government clearly isn't perfect, on the scale of things I think it's pretty great. A debate around security vs. privacy is the inevitable and sensible outcome given the nature of the threat, I think it's reasonable that public and Parliament hold that discussion on its own merits rather than this idea it's all somehow been orchestrated by some kind of illuminati.
I also don't agree with your assertion that 'the West' doesn't care about deaths elsewhere, mainly because I feel the terminology of 'the West' has become increasingly vague and inconsistent given the vast numbers of countries, ideologies and societies it is supposed to incorporate.
Quite sad?
I just watched the video of them burning the pilot, it's so sad and heartbreaking to watch. Feck those IS cnuts, they will get what's coming to them eventually, Also feck the US and our own British government for creating and supplying these rats in the first place. The middle east needs dudes like Sadam and Assad right now I think.
Apparently they are holding a 26 year old American women captive as well, not hard to imagine what she's probably going through right now..
Apparently they are holding a 26 year old American women captive as well, not hard to imagine what she's probably going through right now..
Quite.
Sickening. Don't think I'd be able to bring myself to watch the video.
Why do some of you actually feel the need to watch these videos? I have not myself ever thought it necessary, but am interested to know what your motivation might be.
I wouldn't bother, but there are some stills on various main stream media sites that more than drive home the point.