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ISIS in Iraq and Syria
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Baghdadi's black and white army!
Haha good oneExcept I was alluding to Biden's hypocrisy. Like I said, he was perfectly content and even supportive of the Gulf Arabs when they chose to arm and fund terrorists and cannibals as they went on murderous sprees in Syria, but now he's got the crocodile tears out and fake outrage at their support towards IS.
So you don't deny your own hypocrisy in criticizing Biden, who happens to support your position (as does Obama) about the perils of arming the Syrian "opposition".
Pakistan Taliban (TTP) pledge allegiance to Baghdadi/ISIS.
ffs i wont be allowed on an airplane at this rate.
One of the Kurdish students who was captured by ISIS, then released, has given an interview. Look how brainwashed he has become, it's disgusting.
Today's battle. You can see one of the YPG hit the tank with the RPG and it then went off for repairs. Again, open land with no civilians. Easy target for the coalition.
Reuters earlier rather reported a definitive pledge of allegiance to ISIL by the Pakistan Taliban, but a translation of the statement by Al Jazeera does not appear to state that "bayah" - or the traditional pledge of allegiance - has been given to ISIL.
Instead, the Palistan Taliban statement said it will send fighters to the Middle East. The AFP quotes an unnamed spokesman as saying that there were already more than 1,000 of the group's fighters there.
Slaughtering Arabs/Muslims in this day and age is no big deal, certainly not from an american point of view, the land of freedom and democracy they say. Give me a fecking break. USA are everything that is wrong in the world and the mother of terrorism.
Assad successfully defended his country against US financed terrorists to turn Syria into an other Lybia. Syria is a melting pot, one of the most ancient country in the world where all the religions live together. It's also a country that refuses to bow to the yankees and Israel unlike SA. Now they're trying to force the issue again by bombing the country citing ISIS as an excuse. ISIS, the same organization that was entirely financed by US and their allies at the beginning.
"....said the 9/11 hijackers."
Actions, not words my friend. Its all good and dandy if Biden harps on wax poetic about the Gulf Arab states enabling extremism, but it means feck all if his administration then go on to green-light millions of dollars of funding and weaponry being funneled to the Syrian 'moderates'. I just think more and more people are beginning to see the obvious link between the Gulf Arab States, Turkey, the US and extremist elements in Syria, so Biden is trying to save face with empty rhetoric now that a few US hostages have been murdered.
My point is that Obama is against that policy even if it was tepidly entertained for a short while, because of the same concerns you and many others had - that weapons might wind up in the wrong hands. See his recent 60 minutes interview for clarification. It was the likes of Hillary Clinton and Leon Panetta that were strongly for the policy, but it never went forward to any extent because it lacked Presidential support.
86 ISIS fighters killed and 17 YPG martyred in the last 24 hours, in Kobane.
CIA knew all bout the hijackers (and more).
Undoubtedly so in the alternate Universe.
One terrorist action which is very suspect, 2 things I dont understand, how does a plane fly all the way into NEW York Airspace "undetected, all the way to the twin towers?
Even more baffling was how another plane hit the pentagon, the head and main base of US military operations, not get shot down within however many metres is a no fly zone, totally farcical
Anyway here is the total civilian deaths, the ones reported are much lower than the actual figures, but still totally unacceptable http://costsofwar.org/
So the bare minimum is 300,000 cicvilians dead due to the US invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, that basically 300 separate events of 9/11 in the ME
And then you have millions permanently disabled for life, millions who are homeless, and have no food.
Just because you control the media , doesnt mean that the US is the biggest terrorist nation on earth, that has killed more civilians than probably any nation before it, even funnier is how it manages to sweep everything under the rug , and make it seem like it is the victim
lol
It wasn't very diffucult to do before 9/11 as no one expected it and the hijackers more or less had the perfect storm of everything (spare the flight that crashed in Pennsylvania) going right for them. It certainly isn't likely to happen again now that jets get scrambled if planes ignore protected space.
As for the civilian casualties, compare them to 4 decades of Baathist rule in Iraq and half a decade of medieval Taliban rule in Afghanistan, several hundred thousand killed in Syria, and the numbers suddenly become a bit diluted.
Lol no kaffir will agree with this
One YPJ fighter carried out a suicide operation against ISIS, due to a lack of weapons. Hit them with explosives on a very strategic hill.
Shit, they're really lacking that much ammo and stuff?
YPG destroyed another tank today, you can hear the cheers of the civilians on the border in this video:
No direct route into Kobane that is safe so it has been mainly self sufficient over the years.
It's critically low atm and will run out soon. There are 5 FSA brigades fighting with YPG in Kobane, they requested arms and aid from the Syrian National Council but were rejected.
No direct route into Kobane that is safe so it has been mainly self sufficient over the years.
I dont think the Taliban remotely killed as many people as the US and its allies have, those killed in Syria are all due to US constantly supplying weapons and changing sides, the CIA have been involved in almost every regime change in the ME for the last 60 years
There wouldnt be thousands killed in Syria if the US and its dictator and oppressive allies(who dont practice democracy at all I must add) in the gulf states are all supplying the different groups with weapons
Is there anything the US is not involved in, when it comes to causing destabilization, and chaos in the ME?
And also your ignoring what I send in regard to the scope of the killings, the only thing the world knows every year is mourning for 9/11, but since then theres been an equivalent in terms of loss of life to 300 9/11`s commited in the ME
The Taliban were/are quite a medieval trainwreck of a group, so allying yourself with them isn't going to land you many points. The Syrian war is completely down to Assad, so you're 100% wrong there as well.
Artillery shell by Turkish army against YPG positions in the besieged city. Turkish army accuse YPG of firing mortars over the border into Turkey.
The YPG that has critically low ammo used one of their precious mortars to bomb a house inhabited by their Kurdish brothers and sisters.
They don't even bother hiding their support for ISIS now.
The YPG that has critically low ammo used one of their precious mortars to bomb a house inhabited by their Kurdish brothers and sisters.
They don't even bother hiding their support for ISIS now.
I can't confirm but that video above of the tank being destroyed is allegedly the suicide operation. She hit the tank and blew both vehicles up.
How does saying that Taliban killed far fewer than an invading army, count as allying yourself with them, plus Im sure people in Afghanistan and Syria see the US and its allies in the same light, I mean maybe before the Teleban banned people from having tvs, and women having their rights restricted, but Im sure looking back they would have much preferred that then getting their women, and children blown up, and killed indiscriminately or having thousands of houses blown up
In relation to Assad: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/01/14/1178686/-How-the-US-help-put-Assad-in-power-in-Syria
The Taliban would've killed many more people had they remained in power and Afghanistan is currently in a far better situation now than had it spent the past 13 years under a murderous, ISIS-like death cult like the Taliban. They currently have a proper democratically elected government and just had a peaceful transition of power from one government to another, so there really is no point there. Afghanistan is in a far better situation now than it was in 2001. Full stop.
As for Syria, its really pointless to go back to the late 1940s to discuss the situation today. The world was a completely different place and the US and other countries had different norms, most of which were driven by the paranoid fear that communism would spread. The current situation must be evaluated from 2010/11 on when the Syrian revolution began.
Spot on.
You really believe that
, its just another rigged election so he tows the line of his US masters, while the millions of aid Afghanistan gets goes to the pockets of him, and his cronies in govt, and other positions, the normal people know this and hate the govt, as Ive said the local people dont care much for the taliban religious ideology , they just want the foreign invader out of their land plus despite being backward as feck they werent corruptAnd in relation to Syria I dont think ISIS is the problem or the real monster as the media likes to sensationalise, this man is : http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/...ers-how-horrible-syrian-president-al-assad-is
I fully agree there, and its not some complex thing to understand too, its exactly whats happening in the world today
When Muslims kill very few Western people its highlighted, commemorated and brought up every year. But when US forces and their allies, dictator friends included, kills hundreds of thousands of Muslims its no big deal, they are just dehumanised as "collateral damage"
Even worse is the Islamophobia that muslims want to take over the world as kill the "infidel" and it is seen as okay to be suspicious of them, while in the real world you have almost every muslim country suffering not from radical Islam, but from US invasion of almost all soverign countries in the ME, bringing hundreds of thousands of deaths, destroying homes, families, infrastucture
And the people in the ME are not fanatical muslims on a Jihad, they are just defending their families and countries, same as every other man would do if someone invaded your country
But in war, you always have to demonise the enemy, as this subhuman person who is incompatible with rational thinking, and is evil, and must be destroyed etc
Obviously among some groups you have people who commit atrocities, Im not saying theyre saints, just that the US, does even worse, but theirs are brushed aside like nothing happned
Also where was radical Islam pre 9/11, why is it only springing up ever since each of those countries have been invaded
Is this serious?
Off the top of my head the fighters who went to Afghanistan against the Russians (who weirdly enough rambo 3 was dedicated to and who allegedly had cia backing) who of course sort of morphed into the taliban and aq... All a long time before 911
If your just talking aq alone pre 911then 1992 Yemen blowing up us troops in a hotel
Trying to blow up the world trade in 1993
Attempting to assassinate president Clinton with a bomb in 1996
Bombing us embassies in 1998
And attacking an aircraft carrier (uss Cole) in 2000
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See this is the thinking that is really annoying , those are totally minuscule attempts, apart from 9/11, what are US troops doing in Yemen firstly, how would you feel if a war is going on and yemen is attacking the US( I know it sounds silly), but would people be happy with soldiers in yemen in your country while attacking it, I think not
Plus Russia recently would not allow the US to make some sort of base in eastern europe a few years ago, as it was too close to Russia, but why when it comes to the ME, you can have your aircraft carriers sent from one side of the world and camp it in the ME, to bomb countries?
Those are single isolated incidences, which media show all over the world, which are totally minuscule compared to what the US has done, IF you start names all the single targets, buildings, humans the US has killed in that period, you will never be able to list them
You mention, an embassy and hotel, which are written into history, but if you count every single building, with people, infrastructure the US has destroyed, you cannot name them as list is countless and totally unaccounted to, due to the sheer scale
Look at the sanctions on Iraq after the first gulf war, led to the deaths of 500,000 children from starvation, and malnutrition, and that does not include adults
Then in Iraq, and Afghanistan you have many villages and towns in the beginning of each invasion which where totally carpet bombed, in Iraq a great example would be the town of Fallujah, which the US threw all sorts of biological, and chemical weapons at the poulation, and I posted an article a few pages back stating the effect those things have had on population, one of many being an infant mortality rate of 80 per every 1000
So you will undoutably brush this under the rug as well, when the sheer loss of lives in the ME, really amounts to war crimes, and I only see one terrorist in the equation