Isco

[Damien]

Nasri could be leaving. Dzeko could be leaving. Tevez could be leaving. He'd start even if they were still at the club though i think.

Yeah, I reckon he'd get a fair bit of playing time there. Possibly more than if he moved to Real but at the fee he'd be leaving for, he'd surely be getting a lot of playing time at whichever club he moves to.

 

[Escobar]

Isco would be too good to join City, hope it doesnt work out

 

[KingMinger22]

Isco would be too good to join City, hope it doesnt work out

Like Silva, Aguero ad Toure I suppose?


Money and potential trophies talk. I think he will almost certainly join City.

 

[jojojo]

Marca reporting that City won't be going after Isco. They claim Pellegrini would like him but the directors don't think they need him.

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

he will go where Pellegrini goes.

 

[Mainoldo]

Him and Navas will be good signings. Will make them more exciting anyway.

 

[Maajid]

Pellegrini will make them more exciting.

 

[Feed Me]

Him and Navas will be good signings. Will make them more exciting anyway.

They'll be a lot more open if they stretch the pitch, something I'll welcome.

 

[GledTheRed]

he will go where Pellegrini goes.

Why is he is dad?

 

[RDCR07]

he will go where Pellegrini goes.

I dont think its as clear cut as that. Its obvious he has a lot of respect for Pellegrini but I think Madrid will be a bigger choice for him than City. If Madrid can guarantee him playing time, I think they will be pole position, which also makes me think Isco is going to wait for the drama to be over at Madrid and for them to sell some players before making his decision.

 

[Nate Dogg]

IF Nani leaves, Isco would be the perfect replacement.

 

[RedRonaldo]

Since most likely Rooney and Nani will leave, why don't we try a cheeky bid on him, rather than sitting and watching our opponents snatching the likes of Silva, Mata and Carzola etc summer after summer?

 

[apotheosis]

I dont think its as clear cut as that. Its obvious he has a lot of respect for Pellegrini but I think Madrid will be a bigger choice for him than City. If Madrid can guarantee him playing time, I think they will be pole position, which also makes me think Isco is going to wait for the drama to be over at Madrid and for them to sell some players before making his decision.

Can Madrid guarantee anyone playing time? Playing time, or lack of, isn't usually enough to stop a player going to Madrid. Whether we like it or not, Madrid remains the pinnacle for a lot of players, and those who do sign presumably go there with the belief they will be getting game time. No guarantees though.

 

[Devil may care]

Since most likely Rooney and Nani will leave, why don't we try a cheeky bid on him, rather than sitting and watching our opponents snatching the likes of Silva, Mata and Carzola etc summer after summer?

If that Mitten article is to be believed our scouts deemed him too slow and said he doesn't make enough of a difference.

 

[Mainoldo]

Since most likely Rooney and Nani will leave, why don't we try a cheeky bid on him, rather than sitting and watching our opponents snatching the likes of Silva, Mata and Carzola etc summer after summer?

That article that was out probably explains why. If that the case only Moyes can overturn it.

 

[Comsmit]

If that Mitten article is to be believed our scouts deemed him too slow and said he doesn't make enough of a difference.

Then our scouts miss the point of him completely. In 2012 he was the youngest player in the major European leagues to create 50 plus chances for his teammates during competitive game time. He definitely isn't slow where it counts most...inside his head. Surely every player United look at can't be dismissed for lacking a bit of pace, if so that is fecking pathetic. We have 2 quick players in Young and Valencia who have proved time and again this season they lack that real intelligence to unlock tight defenses. No point being quick but unable to make the correct decisions.

I would rather recruit a clever player who lacks a bit of pace than a complete feckwit who can run the 100 in under 11 seconds.

 

[Mainoldo]

Then our scouts miss the point of him completely. In 2012 he was the youngest player in the major European leagues to create 50 plus chances for his teammates during competitive game time. He definitely isn't slow where it counts most...inside his head. Surely every player United look at can't be dismissed for lacking a bit of pace, if so that is fecking pathetic. We have 2 quick players in Young and Valencia who have proved time and again this season they lack that real intelligence to unlock tight defenses. No point being quick but unable to make the correct decisions.

I would rather recruit a clever player who lacks a bit of pace than a complete feckwit who can run the 100 in under 11 seconds.

We've got Kagawa and Rooney so maybe just we prefer quicker players for the wing. You can still be fast and intelligent. Your last sentence was pretty much retarded.

 

[RDCR07]

Can Madrid guarantee anyone playing time? Playing time, or lack of, isn't usually enough to stop a player going to Madrid. Whether we like it or not, Madrid remains the pinnacle for a lot of players, and those who do sign presumably go there with the belief they will be getting game time. No guarantees though.

Its pretty simple really. If they sell one or two players who play in his position, then automatically he is going to get playing time. There is talk of Di Maria and Kaka leaving, if that happens there you can replace them with Isco.

 

[Snow]

Kaka has little to do with where Di Maria plays. Özil and Callejon have been covering that spot when he's out. Isco is more out on the left, where Ronaldo is, than he is on the right.

Kaka is not a player that will hinder anyone's playing time anyway.

Ronaldo and Özil are his biggest competitors at Real.

 

[Comsmit]

We've got Kagawa and Rooney so maybe just we prefer quicker players for the wing. You can still be fast and intelligent. Your last sentence was pretty much retarded.

Isco isn't a winger, and if he was bought it shouldn't be as a winger. I never said a player can't be fast and intelligent, I would of thought that much is obvious to anyone who watches football on a consistant basis.

Pretty much retarded? Ok then. I would suggest its your response that is off beat, seen as you have not even grasped the (admittedly simple) context at all. Or rather grasped it but twisted it round to something that is completely innacurate and "retarded."

That is a fecking shit choice of word too fella, it completely does not apply here. And why "was" it retarded just out of curiosity?

 

[MJJ]

If that Mitten article is to be believed our scouts deemed him too slow and said he doesn't make enough of a difference.

which Mitten article?

 

[RDCR07]

Kaka has little to do with where Di Maria plays. Özil and Callejon have been covering that spot when he's out. Isco is more out on the left, where Ronaldo is, than he is on the right.

Kaka is not a player that will hinder anyone's playing time anyway.

Ronaldo and Özil are his biggest competitors at Real.

I think this could work for them:

Benzema

Isco------Ozil------Ronaldo

Modric-----Alonso​

 

[Mainoldo]

Isco isn't a winger, and if he was bought it shouldn't be as a winger. I never said a player can't be fast and intelligent, I would of thought that much is obvious to anyone who watches football on a consistant basis.

Pretty much retarded? Ok then. I would suggest its your response that is off beat, seen as you have not even grasped the (admittedly simple) context at all. Or rather grasped it but twisted it round to something that is completely innacurate and "retarded."

That is a fecking shit choice of word too fella, it completely does not apply here. And why "was" it retarded just out of curiosity?

He does operate on the wing if im not mistaken so we have to treat him as a winger. If he can he he wouldn't accommodate a central role. i'm not doubting his ability, i feel he's an excellent player.. However at the time Fergie looking for a winger probably to replace Nani didn't feel he was fast enough for the type of role he would want him to play.

 

[Snow]

I think this could work for them:

Benzema

Isco------Ozil------Ronaldo

Modric-----Alonso​

Moving Ronaldo to accommodate Isco? I'm not sure about that. He's played there his entire Real career. He's scored an absurd amount of goals from there. You shouldn't fiddle with that.

 

[Devil may care]

Then our scouts miss the point of him completely. In 2012 he was the youngest player in the major European leagues to create 50 plus chances for his teammates during competitive game time. He definitely isn't slow where it counts most...inside his head. Surely every player United look at can't be dismissed for lacking a bit of pace, if so that is fecking pathetic. We have 2 quick players in Young and Valencia who have proved time and again this season they lack that real intelligence to unlock tight defenses. No point being quick but unable to make the correct decisions.

I would rather recruit a clever player who lacks a bit of pace than a complete feckwit who can run the 100 in under 11 seconds.

I agree, I think speed and size are unfortunately still valued above all else by many scouts looking at players for this league. However it does seem strange that we bought Kagawa who is small, slightly built and not exactly fitted with afterburners if our scouts are prone to that dated view.

which Mitten article?

This one

 

[MJJ]

I agree, I think speed and size are unfortunately still valued above all else by many scouts looking at players for this league. However it does seem strange that we bought Kagawa who is small, slightly built and not exactly fitted with afterburners if our scouts are prone to that dated view.



This one

Thankyou. Dont agree with that assessment of Isco but interesting article none the less. Isco can easily play that giggs role of the LW wing with evra/fabio providing the pace by overlapping.

 

[pocco]

We like pace out wide. That's fair enough.

 

[RDCR07]

Moving Ronaldo to accommodate Isco? I'm not sure about that. He's played there his entire Real career. He's scored an absurd amount of goals from there. You shouldn't fiddle with that.

You are not moving Ronaldo to CM. Just the opposite wing. He is the type of player who will get goals no matter which attacking position he plays in. He is world class. Plus they can all interchange during the game anyway.

 

[Bebe]

That's utterly stupid if we've decided that Isco is too slow or too anything else to be a United player. First of all he's certainly not slow though he certainly wouldn't keep up with Young/Valencia/Nani. None of Mata, Silva, or Cazorla is any faster than Isco, and I think those three have put paid to the idea that small, slight playmakers can't succeed in the EPL. There isn't a team in the world that wouldn't be thrilled to have a player of Isco's class, he's that good.

 

[Snow]

You are not moving Ronaldo to CM. Just the opposite wing. He is the type of player who will get goals no matter which attacking position he plays in. He is world class. Plus they can all interchange during the game anyway.

He wouldn't be bad on the right, just not as good. You'd rather have him shoot with his right than his left. Also, on the left he's got Marcelo with him. A full back that draws attention to himself or can exploit the attention that Ronaldo gets. Defenders aren't flustered about Arbeloa.

 

[Devil may care]

Thankyou. Dont agree with that assessment of Isco but interesting article none the less. Isco can easily play that giggs role of the LW wing with evra/fabio providing the pace by overlapping.

That's how I thought we could use him as well, his skill and vision overcome his limited speed in my view and he's pretty strong on the ball with that low center of gravity.

 

[Adam-Utd]

That's utterly stupid if we've decided that Isco is too slow or too anything else to be a United player. First of all he's certainly not slow though he certainly wouldn't keep up with Young/Valencia/Nani. None of Mata, Silva, or Cazorla is any faster than Isco, and I think those three have put paid to the idea that small, slight playmakers can't succeed in the EPL. There isn't a team in the world that wouldn't be thrilled to have a player of Isco's class, he's that good.

Debatable tbh. No doubt he's a silky footballer but I don't think he will ever be a world beater. He has flashes of brilliance but so far he has not grabbed any game by the scruff of the neck that I have seen.

For the money they are talking about to sign him, there is better options IMO.

 

[Devil may care]

Debatable tbh. No doubt he's a silky footballer but I don't think he will ever be a world beater. He has flashes of brilliance but so far he has not grabbed any game by the scruff of the neck that I have seen.

For the money they are talking about to sign him, there is better options IMO.

He's only 20, there aren't a lot of 20 year olds that dominate games. Who are the better options? I'm not saying there aren't any as I personally think Lamela may be better prospect, but still we would be talking about £25-30M for any top young talent in Europe these days.

 

[Raees]

Our left wingers cut in ao we haven't needed pace out on that flank since Giggs. Isco is quick enough anyway, whether he has enough of an impact on games is up for debate but compared to Valencia and Young, he's definitely good enough.

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

Why is he is dad?

He is the man who has got the best out of him, played him regularly and is now at a big club that wants to sign him. Players don't over look that easily. I'd bet he'd chose that over Real or Barca's bench.

 

[RDCR07]

He is the man who has got the best out of him, played him regularly and is now at a big club that wants to sign him. Players don't over look that easily. I'd bet he'd chose that over Real or Barca's bench.

There is talk circulating that City will sign Navas and Madrid will sign Isco. You might be wrong on this one Chief.

 

[Redfighter]

I think this could work for them:

Benzema

Isco------Ozil------Ronaldo

Modric-----Alonso​

Where does Bale fit into this? ...Madrid are desperate to spunk money all over his chimp face.

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

I dont think its as clear cut as that. Its obvious he has a lot of respect for Pellegrini but I think Madrid will be a bigger choice for him than City. If Madrid can guarantee him playing time....

They obviously can't.

 

[Shinjisan]

They can if Di Maria leaves. Isco can play on either side as an attacking midfielder.

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

They can if Di Maria leaves. Isco can play on either side as an attacking midfielder.

Not when they are likely to bring in Bale and Suarez and still have Ozil and Ancelotti's favorite, Kaka.

Isco will only end up there if like Canales, he doesn't know what is good for him.