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India vs England
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This is like RAWK 
Such an ungracious country in defeat, especially when it comes to cricket. Also obsessed about England, who genuinely could not care less about India or Indian cricket.
Give me the Ashes anyday.
Such an ungracious country in defeat, especially when it comes to cricket. Also obsessed about England, who genuinely could not care less about India or Indian cricket.
Give me the Ashes anyday.
Hook, line and sinker.
Think I will keep you guys in my keep net untill the series is wrapped up
I am not Indian mate.
Just someone who likes to make fun of the mentally retarded.
That has been my whole point during the entire argument. But that doesn't refrain some idiots from coming on here and talking nonsense. Sadly, some of them our own.
I am not Indian mate.
Just someone who likes to make fun of the mentally retarded.
Didn't say you were Indian?
Perhaps you should look at your own mental health if you think I did..
That has been my whole point during the entire argument. But that doesn't refrain some idiots from coming on here and talking nonsense. Sadly, some of them our own.
I think the issue some of us have is with this India arrogance.
It makes it even more ammusing when we wipe the floor with you.
England doesn't do exactly well in a sport that they are crazy about. Now do they, spoony?
This is like RAWK
Such an ungracious country in defeat, especially when it comes to cricket. Also obsessed about England, who genuinely could not care less about India or Indian cricket.
Give me the Ashes anyday.
Hook, line and sinker.
Think I will keep you guys in my keep net untill the series is wrapped up
What does this imply then? If it was wind up attempt I hold my hands up, you got me. Just use to this arrogance from english fans.
Aye, but we're decent at cricket, though. There's not much competition that's why.
The whole "how could we lose to England of all teams" attitude as well as all the England hate is baffling.
England have consistently been a better test side than India over the last 2-3 years. As well as a major test force over the last decade.
A bit of humility wouldnt go amiss.
England have consistently been a better test side than India over the last 2-3 years. As well as a major test force over the last decade.
A bit of humility wouldnt go amiss.
It's to do with England's habit of playing spinners badly and us being very good players of spinners.
Though me and zing have been contesting from the start that England have a better team than us and have thoroughly outplayed us in the last two matches.
Also it's hard too show humility when you've got guys like TheReligion acting like a twat throughout, but perhaps that should have been expected considering he's a copper.
I think the issue your administrators have had is to play second fiddle to the brown man in a sport that they apparently invented. You need to read some of the interviews from the people running the game in England and pundits on television, the bitterness is almost palpable.
England are ahead in the series and have played well no one is denying that. But there is also no denying the fact that we have totally shit the bed on this series. I guess the players were as confident as I was that England will come here and roll over. On potential we should never been in a position that we found ourselves in. That is why it has been frustrating. No one gave England a chance not even the English themselves. But it not stopping them coming on here now and trying to rub it in like typical glory hunters.
Agreed!
Good for you. Enjoy it while you can.
Tbf I would've thought we would be losing the series as well. You still may win the last test. We are always capable of rolling over for 50 on a turner.
You're showing your own prejudices here.
You won't.
You've two genuine world class batsmen, two better spinners than us, a world class pace bowler, a wicketkeeper who actually keep wickets and score runs and a captain who doesn't actually get into his shell when things aren't going his way. You're comfortably the better side.
I don't hate england at all. Infact I always support them in the ashes. I think the reason for all this is (may sound harsh) but people consider england to be rubbish in sub continent which isn't exactly a wrong view.
By the way "being better than india" isn't exactly an achievement considering indian team has been crap(I think 2 whitewash is enough to prove that). I still think bar few batsmen(specially cook, really impressed by him) english batting lineup would be very vulnerable against quality spinners and that is an understatement. Still credit to english team for coming back the way they did and currently their test cricket looks to be in decent shape.
Anyways just to show you an example as to why Indian fans are annoyed. Do you consider english to be even remotely as good as legendary australian team? Indian team in india used to be incredibly competitive against them hence the frustration.
Anyways like I said fair play to them, they've been clearly much better.
That has been my whole point during the entire argument. But that doesn't refrain some idiots from coming on here and talking nonsense. Sadly, some of them our own.
Mate, are you for real? All the other Indian lads have come on here and been gracious and made excellent points. You have claimed you've been beaten by a team of 4 people, that 3 of your players are better than the entire England team put together and that England and the English, to paraphrase, have a problem with uppity brownies. There's only one person in this thread that's an embarassment.
I'll say 2 including TR
Well I think TR is just on the (shit) wind-up, he's not really making the comments in all seriousness.
How so?
I have only gone on the WUM due to the idiocy of his remarks and the general arrogance of a minority of Indian fans on here
If it was just a wind up then fair enough.
I am stating the truth, you need to follow it more closely to know what I am saying.
Anyways, I am out. I said that I won't get into any non PC shit but still took TR's bait. My fault.
Nah, noone here I know genuinely feels anything, positive or negative, towards England as a cricketing nation or the English cricket team as it is now. Indifference is the feeling IMO like it probably is the other way round. I'd say in recent times Australia has evoked some emotion due to making such a huge mark on the game and dominating pretty much everyone, and of course as always, Pakistan.
England are pretty poor against spin in general. Surely, it's easy to see the surprise? We used to even beat the great Australian teams at home. It's clear to see we've fallen a great deal as a home team. Not that saying that says much about England coming from me, I've barely seen much of this series at all. I'm just making general statements about our current state of affairs relative to the past.
Buddy, I have no problem standing alone when I know I am correct. I never have and will never need anyone else' support. I would "embarrass" myself a thousand times if I have conviction in my statements.
I didn't say that 3 of our players are better than the English, go back and read it again. I said, that those 3 batsman have more talent than the entire English batting line-up in these conditions. I am not talking about cricket fans having any problems with India's dominance in the financial game. But you need to read and follow some of the comments from the Australian and English administrators to realize that they are not happy with India's financial prowess on the ICC and in the world game.
How is that bitter? It is a hidden fact.
Anyways, this time I am really out. I on this site for my love of United and nothing else. Later..
Thats because the BCCI are a bunch of clowns. That's nothing to do with them being brown, or rich, or anything else. There are about a thousand examples of them being absolute plums over the last few years, to suggest it's racist to think so is absolutely staggering.
And regarding the talent point you made earlier, it's just so utterly delusional and plain wrong, and what's more so clearly wrong, and yet said with such unassailable, irreversibly smug arrogance, that it really leaves me lost for words.
Also a tip of the hat to the other Indian lads here - I read some cricinfo comments and the cluelessness of the average Indian fan is laughable, but everyone here is sensible and makes excellent points, also show a humility and a realism that is starkly lacking in many Indian cricket fans.
And regarding the talent point you made earlier, it's just so utterly delusional and plain wrong, and what's more so clearly wrong, and yet said with such unassailable, irreversibly smug arrogance, that it really leaves me lost for words.
Also a tip of the hat to the other Indian lads here - I read some cricinfo comments and the cluelessness of the average Indian fan is laughable, but everyone here is sensible and makes excellent points, also show a humility and a realism that is starkly lacking in many Indian cricket fans.
Huh? As an Indian fan, I agree that BCCI are a bunch of clowns but what have they done for an outsider to have such a view? Give me some of those "thousand" examples.
Refusing to accept the DRS?
Interfering with the preparation of the pitch which lead to that groundsmen resigning?
Interfering with the preparation of the pitch which lead to that groundsmen resigning?
Again, I am not a fan of that but they are well within their rights to refuse an imperfect technology. It is a fact that the system is not fool-proof and there are questions regarding the trajectory of the ball and the projected height and direction using the system.
As for the pitches, tell me a team and a board that doesn't prepare pitches to suit themselves? Do you honestly believe the English team and board didn't instruct the curators to leave a touch more grass on the pitches when India visited? Or when we visited NZ a few years back and no team could score more than 200 in an innings. Don't you think Pakistan prepared in the UAE to suit Ajmal and co?
PS: I am not really out, huh?
Just for today, won't enter the thread after that.Not sure reading the comments section of a website is a fair way to judge any person's mentality.
I read Daily Mail's comment section some times and most of it is usually covered in racism. That doesn't mean the average English person is racist though. It's just that people becomes morons on Internet.
Again, I am not a fan of that but they are well within their rights to refuse an imperfect technology. It is a fact that the system is not fool-proof and there are questions regarding the trajectory of the ball and the projected height and direction using the system.
As for the pitches, tell me a team and a board that doesn't prepare pitches to suit themselves? Do you honestly believe the English team and board didn't instruct the curators to leave a touch more grass on the pitches when India visited? Or when we visited NZ a few years back and no team could score more than 200 in an innings. Don't you think Pakistan prepared in the UAE to suit Ajmal and co?
PS: I am not really out, huh?
Its better than nothing though. There is a reason why every other board has accepted it, the system implemented the way it is now errs with the umpires so dont think whats too bad about it. Plus it won you a semi-final with that tendulkar review.
My point was more as how it was conducted, with the groundsman resigning. The whole thing could easily have been handled better. I dont disagree with preparing pitches to suit your strength as thats the whole point of playing at home but doubt if it was the english or australian board the groundsman would have resigned. The only other board I could see doing something similar is our board and thats says it all really.
Refusing to accept DRS
Charging (or attempting to charge) Sky half a million pounds to set up a commentary booth at the games on this tour - which is why the infinitely better Sky feed is filmed at stupid o'clock in a tiny studio in England
Attempting to charge independent press associations ridiculous amounts of money to go and take pictures at the game, indeed outright banning some of them, just so they can monopolise the images coming out of the games.
Meddling constantly in team affairs despite making the 90s England selection panels look competent in terms of judging talent in players (Indian fans might do well to remember that DUNCAN FLETCHER was instrumental in changing this).
Heading out onto the pitch to chat with Dhoni and Fletcher during the last Test, just so they would be seen by the cameras to look like they're know what they're doing.
Being a bunch of clueless nepotist yes men who pick the team based on who is popular, not who are the best 11 players in India.
Giving the impression that they think BCCI organised competitions are more important than ICC sanctioned international events.
Absolute denial that they are in any way infallible despite mountains of evidence to the contrary.
Strong suggestions of links to corruption, particularly in relation to Modi and the IPL
Want me to go on? Most of these are just from this series ffs! It's the first time in living memory that I can remember Sky not going out to the country the team is playing in and also not employing any commentators from the host country to commentate, and that is an absolute scandal in itself. I think that it says a lot that they make the PCB look competent at the moment!
The pitches are utterly, totally irrelevant, other than the bizarre victim mentality that it's only India that get these sorts of pitches in other touring countries.
Charging (or attempting to charge) Sky half a million pounds to set up a commentary booth at the games on this tour - which is why the infinitely better Sky feed is filmed at stupid o'clock in a tiny studio in England
Attempting to charge independent press associations ridiculous amounts of money to go and take pictures at the game, indeed outright banning some of them, just so they can monopolise the images coming out of the games.
Meddling constantly in team affairs despite making the 90s England selection panels look competent in terms of judging talent in players (Indian fans might do well to remember that DUNCAN FLETCHER was instrumental in changing this).
Heading out onto the pitch to chat with Dhoni and Fletcher during the last Test, just so they would be seen by the cameras to look like they're know what they're doing.
Being a bunch of clueless nepotist yes men who pick the team based on who is popular, not who are the best 11 players in India.
Giving the impression that they think BCCI organised competitions are more important than ICC sanctioned international events.
Absolute denial that they are in any way infallible despite mountains of evidence to the contrary.
Strong suggestions of links to corruption, particularly in relation to Modi and the IPL
Want me to go on? Most of these are just from this series ffs! It's the first time in living memory that I can remember Sky not going out to the country the team is playing in and also not employing any commentators from the host country to commentate, and that is an absolute scandal in itself. I think that it says a lot that they make the PCB look competent at the moment!
The pitches are utterly, totally irrelevant, other than the bizarre victim mentality that it's only India that get these sorts of pitches in other touring countries.
Its better than nothing though. There is a reason why every other board has accepted it, the system implemented the way it is now errs with the umpires so dont think whats too bad about it. Plus it won you a semi-final with that tendulkar review.
My point was more as how it was conducted, with the groundsman resigning. The whole thing could easily have been handled better. I dont disagree with preparing pitches to suit your strength as thats the whole point of playing at home but doubt if it was the english or australian board the groundsman would have resigned. The only other board I could see doing something similar is our board and thats says it all really.
Technology is being used for every other decision as it is, the only ones that become clear with the DRS are LBW's and snicks of the bat. I don't think that DRS should be use for LBW decisions at all. What is use of the empire if you are not going to trust his judgement on those? There is a never going to be a technology that would perfect the way of judging a leg before decision. Naked is our best bet. You questioning the Tendulkar decision at Mohali is a proof of that. Everyone and their mother knew that he was plumb.
The only things that leaves in snicks and it is well known that the snickometer and hot spot are not perfect technologies either. I would personally use it for those decisions but I believe the DRS comes in a package and it is not possible to implement just one otherwise the Indian board should have no problems.
Again, the whole pitch saga has been terrible and I have condemned it since the beginning. But as an outsider and an English fan you should be happy that it is happening. It's taking the focus away from the real thing - which is India's performance on the pitch.
I am a pakistani and no way an english fan, probably neutral.
But it should be one rule for all, if all the others accept it BCCI should acknowledge that its in the minority. Personally I feel that it adds to the excitement although it cost us a match but these things happen.
feck me. Now FG wants them all to strip off on the field. What a twat.
There is no doubt that number of correct decisions will increase if DRS(which is what matters) is implemented. It may not be 100% right but it will still be better than nothing. Umpire still has plenty of things to do. For me this BCCI stance is plain retarded, I don't think this is even defensible.
Just my opinion.
Just my opinion.
You'd have to think this series has helped in persuading the BCCI to change their stance.
Most of the controversial decisions have gone against India.
Most of the controversial decisions have gone against India.