India vs England
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It's alright, we would still have a Test left to win the series anyway 
We seem absolutely awful at removing a tail, virtually every innings the tail adds a good 30 or 40 runs more than it should.
England need 41 to win. Cook out. Its on.
7/2. Thank feck India didn't squeak to around a lead of 100.
Edit. 8/3. Lol.
fecking hell.
Edit. 8/3. Lol.
fecking hell.
Love England me 
Pissed and loving this, atleast we aint chasing 100 odd.
Pissed and loving this, atleast we aint chasing 100 odd.
I think England can bat out the day.
Fantastic. From a position where I thought we had no chance to a position where we can't lose the series.
Last test will be interesting. I expect India will be better.
Last test will be interesting. I expect India will be better.
Quite a close match, just were few runs short . But you have to expect that when 2 top class teams are playing against each other
. But you have to expect that when 2 top class teams are playing against each other Embarrassing! Even if we go on and win the next test, a drawn series at home is equivalent to a lost series. I hope we show some character and win the last test.
The good thing in all this is that Indian test cricket has clearly reached its abyss losing to this opposition at home. The only way to go from here is up. Surely, we couldn't be more pathetic than this. I don't know what the selectors will do but I would certainly make a couple of changes before the next test.
First, Yuvraj needs to be dropped. He is not the future and there is no point persisting with him.
Second, I would move Sehwag down the order and start with Rahane. He has been one of the most consistent batsmen in domestic cricket and has the necessary class to do well at the International level.
Third, we have been looking for an all rounder from time immemorial and in Ashwin we have the answer right in front of us. A job 5 batsman can't do, 6 won't. It should also give us a chance to play with an extra bowler and strengthen our bowling. I refuse to believe that in a country as big as ours there aren't bowlers good enough to play at international level.
Fourth, Sachin doesn't have his head in the right place and I would give him rest and time to decide the course of his future.
The team I would go with:
(1) Rahane
(2) Gambhir
(3) Pujara
(4) Sehwag
(5) Kohli
(6) Ashwin
(7) Dhoni
(8) Chawla (Or another spinner doing well in domestic cricket and provides more variety)
(9) Zaheer
(10) Ojha
(11) Yadav (Hope he is fit)
I would let Dhoni captain this test but will only let him keep and bat from the Australia series. He is not a good enough captain at test level and we need to find a replacement.
The good thing in all this is that Indian test cricket has clearly reached its abyss losing to this opposition at home. The only way to go from here is up. Surely, we couldn't be more pathetic than this. I don't know what the selectors will do but I would certainly make a couple of changes before the next test.
First, Yuvraj needs to be dropped. He is not the future and there is no point persisting with him.
Second, I would move Sehwag down the order and start with Rahane. He has been one of the most consistent batsmen in domestic cricket and has the necessary class to do well at the International level.
Third, we have been looking for an all rounder from time immemorial and in Ashwin we have the answer right in front of us. A job 5 batsman can't do, 6 won't. It should also give us a chance to play with an extra bowler and strengthen our bowling. I refuse to believe that in a country as big as ours there aren't bowlers good enough to play at international level.
Fourth, Sachin doesn't have his head in the right place and I would give him rest and time to decide the course of his future.
The team I would go with:
(1) Rahane
(2) Gambhir
(3) Pujara
(4) Sehwag
(5) Kohli
(6) Ashwin
(7) Dhoni
(8) Chawla (Or another spinner doing well in domestic cricket and provides more variety)
(9) Zaheer
(10) Ojha
(11) Yadav (Hope he is fit)
I would let Dhoni captain this test but will only let him keep and bat from the Australia series. He is not a good enough captain at test level and we need to find a replacement.
Yadav will be out, possibly even missing the following series too.
Yuvraj, Zaheer and Harbhajan have been dropped. Awana, Jadeja and Chawla in. Haven't seen Awana play but apparently he's got some pace about him. About time Jadeja got given a chance, straight swap for Yuvraj in the batting order for me, or maybe he can go one place higher to number 5. I'd drop Ohja and start Chawla next test just for something different.
Set us 150 and we would have shat ourselves.
To put England's win in perspective, that's the first time India have lost at Eden Gardens since 1999. Who would have thought that just over 2 weeks ago?!
Not seen Awana play except in T20 matches.
Jadeja shouldn't be in there. Doesn't matter if he has a triple hundred every week.
Jadeja. Ffs.
I'm a fan of rewarding players who do well in domestic cricket. He can't be any worse than Yuvraj at the moment.
If Jadeja scores 300 in any competition, you should be taking a close look at the competition, not at Jadeja.
Zaheer's days are over, and Yuvi is a one day specialist. Relieve MS form test captaincy. Oh, and find a bowler who can spin the bowl. Surely that can't be that hard in India.
Can't say I'm overly knowledgeable about cricket but I do listen to and watch England's test matches, though given the times they are on I often listen to them while I am asleep or half asleep. I did however feel England's batting turned a corner after the embarrassment in our first innings of the first test, we definitely turned a corner after we came out fighting in Ahmedabad and I think that was clear to see in the second test in Mumbai so I haven't been all that surprised by the latest results. What did surprise me was our tail didn't last as long as I thought it would in our first innings in Kolkata.
Decent enough changes. Haven't seen much of Awana but I have read that he has been a good and consistent performer in the domestic competitions. I am a big believer in giving chances to people who excel in domestic competitions, are the right age and have a huge upside. Not a bad idea to promote Jadeja either. He is a decent bowler too and has been doing well with both the bowl and the bat. It would be awesome if we can develop him and Ashwin as two viable options for the coveted all rounder slot. And if you are not going to reward top performers, how are you going to pick players for team India? Out of your ass?
The captaincy issue is a real toughie. 18 moths ago, I would have picked Gambhir with my eyes closed. He was doing it with the bat, had done well in the few games he captained, is aggressive and the right amount of twat, which is never a bad trait to possess as a leader. Plus, there are a lot of players from Delhi and the northern part of India in the squad at the moment, and he could get the best out of them. I am not so sure now, his form has taken a turn for the worse and looks really low on confidence. I hope he plays well in the last test and the one day series against England and Pakistan so that it is easier to give him the mantle before the start of the Australian series.
The captaincy issue is a real toughie. 18 moths ago, I would have picked Gambhir with my eyes closed. He was doing it with the bat, had done well in the few games he captained, is aggressive and the right amount of twat, which is never a bad trait to possess as a leader. Plus, there are a lot of players from Delhi and the northern part of India in the squad at the moment, and he could get the best out of them. I am not so sure now, his form has taken a turn for the worse and looks really low on confidence. I hope he plays well in the last test and the one day series against England and Pakistan so that it is easier to give him the mantle before the start of the Australian series.
Forevergiggs is like the cricketing version of a City fan
Really? You know the funny thing is I was thinking exactly the same about a lot of English fans on this thread.
They were no where to be seen before the series began or after they lost the first test by 9 wickets just like the City fans were missing before the Sheikhs arrival. But now that City have won a title they can't stop running their mouths and half-filling the stadium. Just like the English cricket "fans" have come out and told us that we are a team full of bit part players after getting the better of us in a couple of tests. They have come out in numbers to "support" their team. Good job guys!
And, God save the queen!
Also England lost on penalties to Italy in the Euros
Really? You know the funny thing is I was thinking exactly the same about a lot of English fans on this thread.
They were no where to be seen before the series began or after they lost the first test by 9 wickets just like the City fans were missing before the Sheikhs arrival. But now that City have won a title they can't stop running their mouths and half-filling the stadium. Just like the English cricket "fans" have come out and told us that we are a team full of bit part players after getting the better of us in a couple of tests. They have come out in numbers to "support" their team. Good job guys!
And, God save the queen!
I think you forget who taught you guys cricket...
England have been one of the best test sides in the world over the past 18 months or so. Only SA have been anywhere near.
Yet you have never won the WC.. something we have already done twice.
SA are quite better than you as they demonstrated recently. We also held the no.1 test spot for quite some time, probably longer than England did.
They should stick kohli at six and rahane at five. Rahane is a top order bat, can't play down the order. Kohli has shown he can play at six.
We would be competitive with that lineup.
We would be competitive with that lineup.
Funnily England had a similar approach pre 2000 and we went no where.
We would pick the best performers in the counties and play them in the tests. Thinking, well he's averaging 50+ this season he's ready. Same with the bowlers.
It was only when Fletcher and Hussain took over that England saw a change. We picked guys like Collingwood, Vaughan, Trescothick and Simon Jones. All of whom had good but not excellent first class averages but had that "something" to play test cricket. Even Strauss and Trott weren't prolific by county standards. Not Hick/Ramprakash levels anyway.
A lot of work has been put in over the last decade in this regard. I mean county performances are important but not the be all factor these days with England.
I'm surprised Fletcher hasn't implemented something similar with India. Although I have little knowledge of the domestic first class system in India.
Edit: The introduction of central contracts and the ECB having control of training players rather than the counties has also been important. Admittedly we copied this from the Aussies.
I am going to refrain from replying to this dross as it might turn into a nasty political debate. Something I don't want to happen.
Just going to shake my head, laugh at you and walk away.
If you guys ever need a reminder on how to play cricket you know where to come, one series win doesnt change anything.In the last 12 months you guys have been whitewashed by an extremely weak pakistan side in a neutral venue,lost to srilanka and got destroyed by SA at home.
That screams one of the best test sides, doesnt it.
Noticing alot of 'India playing poorly' and no recognition of England playing well here, I think they deserve alot of credit especially in the last test when they skittled India out on a flat wicket.
As for India, they are going through a process which other sides have gone through which is replacing your best players when they retire. They need to start blooding some youngsters sooner rather than later to get some experience. Its something Australia went through and only now are finding their feet. Its up to the authorities to give younger players a chance. Don't really know too much about domestic Indian cricket but I'm sure there are some players who could step up. They still have some great players but they need to start playing as a team. Also I dont know what Fletcher's doing on their fielding but it is rubbish
As for India, they are going through a process which other sides have gone through which is replacing your best players when they retire. They need to start blooding some youngsters sooner rather than later to get some experience. Its something Australia went through and only now are finding their feet. Its up to the authorities to give younger players a chance. Don't really know too much about domestic Indian cricket but I'm sure there are some players who could step up. They still have some great players but they need to start playing as a team. Also I dont know what Fletcher's doing on their fielding but it is rubbish
Tbh I normally dont bother talking about cricket on the caf cause the opinions here wind me up. Last time I ventured into a cricket thread someone tried to tell me Pietersen was not an international class player
Only posted during the last Test because I've had an incredible amount of free time the last couple of weeks and have been absolutely bored off my tits.
Only posted during the last Test because I've had an incredible amount of free time the last couple of weeks and have been absolutely bored off my tits.
In the last 12 months you guys have been whitewashed by an extremely weak pakistan side in a neutral venue,lost to srilanka and got destroyed by SA at home.
That screams one of the best test sides, doesnt it.
Hook, line and sinker.
Think I will keep you guys in my keep net untill the series is wrapped up
He he he. Cricket's a part time sport in England and all. India got beaten by a nation that's not even remotely cricket mad.
Hook, line and sinker.
Think I will keep you guys in my keep net untill the series is wrapped up
Wow, well done mate.
Some great banter, lolzzzzz....
Sigh, a victory and the English muppets are back in full force. It's not a surprise though.
Oh and btw we are rubbish, honestly England are better than us in every department.
Oh and btw we are rubbish, honestly England are better than us in every department.
Is hurting, KM?
Obviously it is. England aren't the strongest team and yet we are being comprehensively outplayed just because our selectors are doing a terrible job. Taking no credit away from England.
We were frighteningly good at home when I used to be a cricket-crazy nut. How things have changed. Losing to England at home is a pathetically new low.