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This fool has been off the rails for a while now. Was more or less kicked out of the army. Just as an FYI, the photo of the soldiers bound in ropes came out as soldiers rescued during an avalanche from a China mouth piece. Make what you will of that


Picture on the right is of the article that you used to counterclaimed my initial post. So now post the link to the article.
 
So let me explain

1) You put up a counter claim peddled by BJP IT cell that Chinese soldiers were helping Indian soldiers due to avalanche using the pic of Global Times which is a Chinese news site. You also descredited Ajai Shukla just like IT cell and Bhakts do.
Just as an FYI, the photo of the soldiers bound in ropes came out as soldiers rescued during an avalanche from a China mouth piece. Make what you will of that

2) When I asked you to post a link to the article from Global Times you posted something else from a shady website as a fact check, which actually factchecked and proved your claim wrong. :lol: But instead of blaming BJP IT Cell the article ended up blaming Chinese for spreading misinformation based on Global Times article.

3) I asked you thrice to post the link to the article but you haven't. So I'll save yours and everybody time. You haven't been able to post because there's no such article in Global Times. The image that is being shared widely is a Photoshop image made by BJP IT Cell just to make Bhakts feels good, save their dear leaders image and spread misinformation(Photoshop image also have grammatical errors in it.).


So to conclude all you did was spread lies and misinformation, and when caught you tried to wriggle out by posting from some shady website.
 
The link has been taken down off late. Only the screen shot exists now. A few Chinese handles have confirmed the same. Plus the tying of the legs as shown in the photo are done for broken bones (like a splint). Just curious, what are the BJP IT cells saying about the photo?
Stop spreading lies ffs:lol:
 
So let me explain

1) You put up a counter claim peddled by BJP IT cell that Chinese soldiers were helping Indian soldiers due to avalanche using the pic of Global Times which is a Chinese news site. You also descredited Ajai Shukla just like IT cell and Bhakts do.


2) When I asked you to post a link to the article from Global Times you posted something else from a shady website as a fact check, which actually factchecked and proved your claim wrong. :lol: But instead of blaming BJP IT Cell the article ended up blaming Chinese for spreading misinformation based on Global Times article.

3) I asked you thrice to post the link to the article but you haven't. So I'll save yours and everybody time. You haven't been able to post because there's no such article in Global Times. The image that is being shared widely is a Photoshop image made by BJP IT Cell just to make Bhakts feels good, save their dear leaders image and spread misinformation(Photoshop image also have grammatical errors in it.).


So to conclude all you did was spread lies and misinformation, and when caught you tried to wriggle out by posting from some shady website.
Wait, I think there is a bit of confusion between what each of us are trying to say. Or maybe I couldn't explain my view well. The pic of the injured soldiers was claimed by an apparent Chinese mouth piece that these were injured soldiers courtesy an avalanche (probably photoshopped, I don't know).The Indian army (whose stance I am taking) has mentioned the photos to be fake. My main point was that Ajai Shukla has no clue about what he is saying and sharing his tweets is akin to sharing an opindia article. No 60 sq km of Indian territory has been taken near the finger points and the galwan region has been occupied. No Chinese build up or picketing has happened across the watershed (read LAC). When the showdown initially had happened, Ajai Shukla had posted a build up of 10k of the PLA which was rubbish. Also as a heads up, we are not political by any standards and I couldn't care less what the BJP IT cell is posting. I can only help you all by giving the ground info. And Ajai Shukla was an ex army officer who commanded an armrd regiment. He quit pretty much after. It is known amongst us why that happened.
 
The Indian army (whose stance I am taking) has mentioned the photos to be fake.
Any links to this part please? From an army spokesperson or something.

The screenshot of the the Chinese website is almost certainly fake.
 


If true then this amounts to treason. The govt would rather give up Indian territory while pretending it was never ours rather than suffer a PR setback. What's more disgusting is the people who consider themselves nationalists are happy to go along with the charade! I guess they were never nationalists in the true sense, they are communal/casteist bigots.

And that cnut arnob is busy in debating pakistan spies getting sent back rather than the chinese annexing our territory. :mad:
 


If true then this amounts to treason. The govt would rather give up Indian territory while pretending it was never ours rather than suffer a PR setback. What's more disgusting is the people who consider themselves nationalists are happy to go along with the charade! I guess they were never nationalists in the true sense, they are communal/casteist bigots.

And that cnut arnob is busy in debating pakistan spies getting sent back rather than the chinese annexing our territory. :mad:

Umm LAC is till point 4. Simple funda, if LAC was till point 8, Pangong Tso would never be under Chinese control. It is a well established fact that half of Pangong Tso is under Chinese control. India has always wanted to be in till finger point 8 but has never had control. Again as usual, Shukla speaking nonsense. Need to check if he even served in this region. Armoured regiments generally are never posted here.
 


If true then this amounts to treason. The govt would rather give up Indian territory while pretending it was never ours rather than suffer a PR setback. What's more disgusting is the people who consider themselves nationalists are happy to go along with the charade! I guess they were never nationalists in the true sense, they are communal/casteist bigots.

And that cnut arnob is busy in debating pakistan spies getting sent back rather than the chinese annexing our territory. :mad:

LAC was always at finger 8. China had a post at finger 8 while we have an ITBP camp at finger 4. Area between finger 4 and 8 used to be patrolled by both sides. But now they've taken over the area where we use to patrol so the status quo has been changed and new LAC is at finger 4. There are also reports they've already built a road till Finger 4. We'll have to wait till new satellite images are released to confirm this.

Bhakts are not only cnuts but cowards not to admit this happened. They've even shown Chinese in good light(by photoshoping headline into image) to save face.
 
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If true then this amounts to treason. The govt would rather give up Indian territory while pretending it was never ours rather than suffer a PR setback. What's more disgusting is the people who consider themselves nationalists are happy to go along with the charade! I guess they were never nationalists in the true sense, they are communal/casteist bigots.

And that cnut arnob is busy in debating pakistan spies getting sent back rather than the chinese annexing our territory. :mad:

 
LAC was always at finger 8. China had a post at finger 8

Try speaking to someone serving at the current location to get a clear understanding. Chinese patrols come upto point 4 and our patrols go to point 8. Most skirmishes happen in between the points of 4 and 8.
LAC was always at finger 8. China had a post at finger 8 while we have an ITBP camp at finger 4. Area between finger 4 and 8 used to be patrolled by both sides. But now they've taken over the area where we use to patrol so the status quo has been changed and new LAC is at finger 4. There are also reports they've already built a road till Finger 4. We'll have to wait till new satellite images are released to confirm this.

Bhakts are not only cnuts but cowards not to admit this happened. They've even shown Chinese in good light(by photoshoping headline into image) to save face.
Umm the road to Finger point 4 has been made operational since early 2000. The road was constructed when the battalion was moved from pangong tso region to I believe the Battalik region during the Kargil war. Just to help you out and others, you can go through the link below where Col Dinny explained it quite well. He commanded a regmt here.
Feel free to DM for more info which I can help out without giving out any other ops details
 
Umm LAC is till point 4. Simple funda, if LAC was till point 8, Pangong Tso would never be under Chinese control. It is a well established fact that half of Pangong Tso is under Chinese control. India has always wanted to be in till finger point 8 but has never had control. Again as usual, Shukla speaking nonsense. Need to check if he even served in this region. Armoured regiments generally are never posted here.

India always patrolled upto finger 8 and India wouldn't be patrolling upto finger 8 unless in its view LAC was upto finger 8. The chinese never had total control, if they had then India troops wouldn't be patrolling upto finger 8 routinely. It was actually a sort of no man's land. India has a post at finger 4 and now the chinese have taken control upto that post, now Indian soldiers cannot patrol upto finger 8 like they used to do previously. Even if chinese have taken control that doesn't mean we change our borders, as far as were concerned the area onwards finger 4 to finger 8 is chinese occupied Indian territory, however the govt and its lackeys would have us believe that it was never Indian territory to begin with. What a bunch of traitors.

So you see status quo has changed on the ground and its not like nothing has happened, if nothing has happened then why are talks happening ? People must be loyal to the country, its almost as if were posting on a chinese thread and arguing with the chinese! :wenger:.

P.S. I have relatives who've been posted there, my wife's relative is currently posted in kashmir..although he's been posted in ladhak previously.
 


So the annexation isn't limited to just DBO, Galwan and Pangong Tso.


One must question the loyalty of the people claiming nothing has happened. For the first time i am seeing people openly peddle the chinese narrative of the LAC and these people aren't even kashmiri separatists or maoists!! Whats going on here ?
 
India always patrolled upto finger 8 and India wouldn't be patrolling upto finger 8 unless in its view LAC was upto finger 8. The chinese never had total control, if they had then India troops wouldn't be patrolling upto finger 8 routinely. It was actually a sort of no man's land. India has a post at finger 4 and now the chinese have taken control upto that post, now Indian soldiers cannot patrol upto finger 8 like they used to do previously. Even if chinese have taken control that doesn't mean we change our borders, as far as were concerned the area onwards finger 4 to finger 8 is chinese occupied Indian territory, however the govt and its lackeys would have us believe that it was never Indian territory to begin with. What a bunch of traitors.

So you see status quo has changed on the ground and its not like nothing has happened, if nothing has happened then why are talks happening ? People must be loyal to the country, its almost as if were posting on a chinese thread and arguing with the chinese! :wenger:.

P.S. I have relatives who've been posted there, my wife's relative is currently posted in kashmir..although he's been posted in ladhak previously.
Yes, the Chinese have been aggressive and been stopping our patrols and we are doing the same against them (when their patrols used to come towards FP4). The narration of the fact that there are 5k-10k within Indian territory is false and that Shukla should be brought to task regarding it. Now coming to the Ravi Nair tweet above, I am not sure and will have to check.
 
One must question the loyalty of the people claiming nothing has happened. For the first time i am seeing people openly peddle the chinese narrative of the LAC and these people aren't even kashmiri separatists or maoists!! Whats going on here ?
Bro, agar Pakistan nahin hota to tu patriotic hota kya?
We're getting that answer right now.


Meanwhile...
 

However, in a reverse for India, China has established full control over the Finger Heights, Green Top and Finger 4 and Finger 5. Since the LAC earlier ran along Finger 8, Chinese troops have captured the area between Finger 8 and Finger 4, moving the LAC several kilometres to the west.
In addition, over the preceding fortnight, the Chinese have black-topped the road between Finger 8 and Finger 4. The PLA had constructed a dirt track in this area in 1999 when Indian units were pulled out of this area during the Kargil conflict.
Worryingly, government sources, backed by satellite intelligence, are now reporting a large number of Chinese armoured vehicles in the Depsang area, near Daulat Beg Oldi, where Indian and Chinese troops had confronted each other for three weeks in 2013, before mutually disengaging.
 
This shows Chinese have completely annexed and are now consolidating heavily between finger 4-8 in Pangong and also Galwan.
Only problem is this account shows LAC passing through finger 4 which is incorrect.

Satellite images also confirms Ajay Shukla has been bang on about this from day one.















Galwan Valley
 
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