Sneijder is a terrific footballer, but I just want some height in the midfield, it will be nice if we start to win headers from punts and goal kicks. The only reason why I prefer Kaka to Sneijder, but will not be disappointed in anyway if we get one of these two. IMO, Kaka is more of a team player than Sneijder and he rather fits our style, but again, will love Sneijder too.
If Real puts Kaka on sale, should we be interested?
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Sneijder is a terrific footballer, but I just want some height in the midfield, it will be nice if we start to win headers from punts and goal kicks. The only reason why I prefer Kaka to Sneijder, but will not be disappointed in anyway if we get one of these two. IMO, Kaka is more of a team player than Sneijder and he rather fits our style, but again, will love Sneijder too.
Ironically Snejider might be easier to get than some think. They want Kaka and they have Coutinho on their books. If Morrati was offred decnet moey, I'd bet he'd take it. He'd be able to bag Kaka on the cheap and even strengthen further. With the insurance of young Coutnho was the long term playmaker replacement already on the books.
I have a sneaky feeling Sneidjer wont be an Inter player come the start of next season. I think he will most likely end up in England. Though I don't know where.
I didn't know Inter were interested in Kaka - that does make it interesting indeed.
My worry is no matter who we go for the player will have to want to play for us, because I'm sure they'll have to turn down a bigger offer from City.
So this links back to comments Kaka made about United (the true ones before Spoony's) about the atmosphere at Old Trafford the night we beat them 3-2 and he scored. I reckon Kaka would pick us over City, whereas Sneijder may be more prone to following the money.
Obviously this is all just assumption however.
My worry is no matter who we go for the player will have to want to play for us, because I'm sure they'll have to turn down a bigger offer from City.
So this links back to comments Kaka made about United (the true ones before Spoony's) about the atmosphere at Old Trafford the night we beat them 3-2 and he scored. I reckon Kaka would pick us over City, whereas Sneijder may be more prone to following the money.
Obviously this is all just assumption however.
It's a massive risk given his fee, wages, et al. Even in the year he won the World Player of The Year award, he wasn't near his best (that was a fecking stupid award in the first place). It's been a long time since Kaka was at his best.
There's a part of me that wants to see him here, mind. Kaka's loss of form has been a loss to the footballing world - he's an unbelievably gifted player, and we could do with someone of his set of attributes. He could complete us if he returned to form.
There's a part of me that wants to see him here, mind. Kaka's loss of form has been a loss to the footballing world - he's an unbelievably gifted player, and we could do with someone of his set of attributes. He could complete us if he returned to form.
TBF to him he has looked like he is retuning to form. But he is still recovering fitness while competing with Ozil and Di Maria who are flying. That makes it harder to notice the progress he is making since clearing that long standing injury.
Where does Kaka fit in?
Wouldn't that pretty much mean Berbatov out? It certainly limits the match appearances for the strikers but Hernandez and Rooney are going nowhere.
I don't see Kaka in a 4-4-2 so it has to be 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-1-1. Am I correct?
Where would Kaka play in a 4-3-3/4-5-1?
Wouldn't that pretty much mean Berbatov out? It certainly limits the match appearances for the strikers but Hernandez and Rooney are going nowhere.
I don't see Kaka in a 4-4-2 so it has to be 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-1-1. Am I correct?
Where would Kaka play in a 4-3-3/4-5-1?
I'm a firm believer in discounting any form a player has/hasn't shown while at Real Madrid. We've seen numerous examples.
Would love to see Kaka at United, depending on the price. If he could be got for around £20-25m then he'd be a gamble worth taking IMO.
Would love to see Kaka at United, depending on the price. If he could be got for around £20-25m then he'd be a gamble worth taking IMO.
Alongside Carrick in a 4-4-2 Alongside Carrick, Anderson/Fletcher in a 4-3-3. In between Nani and Rooney in a 4-2-3-1.
He be at Chelsea next season with Drogba or perhaps even Cashley going in the opposite direction.
Isn't Drogba about 33? I'm not sure he's still got such a transfer left in him...
...this is Italy we're talking about
Such a transfer? not sure what that means.
Mourinho would love to have Drog at real, he has a good 3 seasons left in him. 15m + Drog.
Kaka in a two-man central midfield... when has this happened?
At Milan, there was always Gattuso-Pirlo-Seedorf.
With Real, he's often the linking player between a two-man midfield (Alonso and Diarra/whomever) and the attacking players.
Me too. I can see Kaka going to Inter as Sneijder's replacement. it's not as if Real need to replace him, they've plenty of options in Kaka's position. If Sneijder made enough noise about a move then we might pick him up a little cheaper than expected.
He could play in a 3 man midfield. Rooney on the left, Berba up top, Nani on the right. Fletcher and Carrick supporting Kaka in the centre
It would be 4-2-3-1 IMO. He'd be more advanced than a three-man midfield would call for.
Is it?
Kaka would play as an attacking midfielder (blurring into a second striker) in a 4-3-3 formation behind Rooney, or Berbatov if you shifted Rooney out wide. Which would somewhat negate the point. You'd want Rooney up top with Valencia and Nani bombing down the wings, Kaka could then dictate play and make runs into the box. Also, he's an amazing dribbler when on top form, so he'd add flair some may have expected Anderson to provide.
I also think for Kaka to play his best for United, the club would need a player capable of consistently retaining possession and getting the ball forward from midfield. A Carrick/Fletcher combo wouldn't do that. It would have to be Anderson stepping up as Scholes won't last much longer. Or some other player, perhaps Cleverley or a transfer signing.
And I agree that Valencia/Nani would be on the wings which leaves Rooney up front. This also means Berbatov would be sacrificed for Kaka. Unless he doesn't mind sitting many matches, saved for emergency purposes only. He'd sit more so with Kaka around than he ever has for the club. This assuming Kaka and/or Rooney remain fit.
This is all purely hypothetical as I doubt United are interested.
And I agree that Valencia/Nani would be on the wings which leaves Rooney up front. This also means Berbatov would be sacrificed for Kaka. Unless he doesn't mind sitting many matches, saved for emergency purposes only. He'd sit more so with Kaka around than he ever has for the club. This assuming Kaka and/or Rooney remain fit.
This is all purely hypothetical as I doubt United are interested.
Buy Kaka and Schweinsteiger + Valencia/Nani/Rooney = Profit??
Where does the 'Sneijder leaving Inter' hypotheses originate from. is that a hunch or is there something more substaive behind it?
Would seem more likely given the age profile/fee/wage.
I think Kaka is more a 'Chavski' type player than a 'Manchester United' one as I can see him fitting in perfectly at the top of the Chavski midfield diamond formation and so would still allow them to play in the same way. If he were able to get on Torres' wavelength, it would be a lethal combination.
If we bought him, Im certain SAF would have to evolve his team strategy around making the Kaka-Rooney relationship work. The danger is that he would become a "Veron" in that his natural style of play would disrupt our already successful way of playing which is the variations of 433 that we tend to play these days. I don't think Kaka works in a midfield 3 and am not even sure what his best position is these days. If we were to go for him, Id like us to be certain that we knew how he would slot in, and right now, Im not all that clear.
is kaka similar to berbatov in terms of the role he would play in the team?
It has happened for Brazil and used to happen in his club day in Brazil sometimes .
He is the perfect player for a 3 man midfield. Think Lampard at Chelsea. He and Kaka are basically the same type of player. Kaka is just much more technically gifted.
Ronaldo & Drogba upfront for Real? They'd basically bulldozed their way past 18 La Liga sides.
They want Kaka, have Sneijder and they also have Coutinho. They wont keep the 3 of them happy. Yet they need extra money to continue a rebuilding job on their back 4. It will make sense to sell Sneidjer for a good fee, bring in Kaka cheaply and reshape their defence.
The did some thing similar when they let Zlatan go.
Ah, OK, makes sense, well thought out.
Well Id defo take Sneijder over Kaka, which i find is a remarkable statement in itself as I would never have said that only a few years ago!
But right now it makes sense though. Sneijder is just 26. His best years are ahead of him. Kaka's are possibly almost behind him. Though at 28 he could still regain his best form.
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Having seen him play a few games for Madrid since coming back from injury he seems to either lack match fitness or worse the injury could have done some long term damage. He seems to have lost some pace. Anyway, whatever it is, he's not looking his mercurial old self - together with his advancing age and the very high transfer and salary package it's just too big a risk.
Having seen him play a few games for Madrid since coming back from injury he seems to either lack match fitness or worse the injury could have done some long term damage. He seems to have lost some pace. Anyway, whatever it is, he's not looking his mercurial old self - together with his advancing age and the very high transfer and salary package it's just too big a risk.
Would love him here just because a marquee signing is always fun, back in reality I'd prefer the marquee signing of the Dutch lad everyone is mentioning above, he just seems much more suited to our style.
if we couldnt get Sneijder I'd go in for Kaka
knowing Madrid kaka might be available at a knockdown price in the summer as they chase the lastest flavour of the month
he would be ideal as the more advanced midfielder of a 3 - not sure where he would fit in if we're playing 2 strikers though
i worked at milan as they played with a diamond but we rely on our wide players
another luxury player?
knowing Madrid kaka might be available at a knockdown price in the summer as they chase the lastest flavour of the month
he would be ideal as the more advanced midfielder of a 3 - not sure where he would fit in if we're playing 2 strikers though
i worked at milan as they played with a diamond but we rely on our wide players
another luxury player?
I'd take him at the right price but his valuation is always going to be higher than it deserves to be, he'll probably go back to Milan or to City paying some ridiculous fee.
I'd agree with that - he's been injured, or playing while injured for nearly two years now and whoever takes him on is taking a gamble.
The touch is still there and it's still beautiful to watch when he picks up the ball just right but whether he can get the rest of the game back, I don't know. On Saturday, starting for Madrid, he was too slow for their counterattacks and too far from match fit/sharp to get in the game during normal play.
I'd like to think he can get his game back, or adapt to a new style, because I think he's a lovely player to watch. At the right price, or on-form, I'd buy him in a shot - but at the right price or on-form I don't think he'd be for for sale.
Expansive, without role, always tired after a great career. He is not old, but is so well-worn
mint...Id take Sneijder over Kaka but I wouldnt say no to him either. Saying that theres more chance of us signing LaLa than Kaka!i think he's fecking magic, but then again i have a bias towards kaka. i do tend to overrate him.
he won't come here though. combo of age, wages, and transfer fee required would see him go to chelsea, city, or inter.
he won't come here though. combo of age, wages, and transfer fee required would see him go to chelsea, city, or inter.
Would love to see Kaka at United, he's one of those few players who's made us look ordinary but is still likeable - but I can't see him signing for United due to his age and fit into the team.
Sneijder is more deep lying than Kaka, younger and more like Scholes used to play. I'd take Sneijder but would either take United is the question?
Sneijder is more deep lying than Kaka, younger and more like Scholes used to play. I'd take Sneijder but would either take United is the question?
Overrated, and not anywhere close to where he once was. And he is not really a midfielder, but more like a secondary striker/deep lying forward. Not what we need. Buying players from abroad at 29 is rarely a good idea. We need someone younger who can contribute longer anyway.
He would be a excellent addition to Tottenham whom are screaming for a good forward, a reunion with Ancelotti at Chelsea could also be interesting, I bet Torres - Kaka up front would give them a lot of pace. I reckon he will stay, because nobody will pay what Real wants for him, they won't take to big of a loss. City might sign him because he is a big name, I can't see what he could give them. I would love a swap between Tevez and Kaka if Tevez leaving thoughts re-emerges... That would weaken City.
He would be a excellent addition to Tottenham whom are screaming for a good forward, a reunion with Ancelotti at Chelsea could also be interesting, I bet Torres - Kaka up front would give them a lot of pace. I reckon he will stay, because nobody will pay what Real wants for him, they won't take to big of a loss. City might sign him because he is a big name, I can't see what he could give them. I would love a swap between Tevez and Kaka if Tevez leaving thoughts re-emerges... That would weaken City.
I think you're right about him being a deep-lying second striker and that's why I think if he were to go to Chelsea, then Torres would thrive as he did with Gerrard when he was positioned in that role and Alonso played the midfield general for Liverpool.
That concerns me to be honest...
I don't think there's room for both Robinho and Kaka at Milan, and to be fair, Robinho is playing very well for them recently alongside Zlatan, although it must be said that Ibrahimovich is on loan at Milan, I wonder what sort of coin it would take for Barca to part with him and would Milan be prepared to pay the full whack?
We might see Ibrahimovich at City I reckon, IF a) they make the Champions League and b) Tevez leaves for pastures new...
We might see Ibrahimovich at City I reckon, IF a) they make the Champions League and b) Tevez leaves for pastures new...