ICC Cricket World Cup 2019

We are likely to play England again. Similar kinda pitch and we will lose. If it favours the bowlers more, we have a better chance. Toss will be important but this bizarre intent was hopefully some unexplainable nonsense that’s not repeated.

From what I can make out, it is not known where each of the semis will be held in terms of the team's placing. Hoping it is not upto England to decide where they will play if they do qualify. Also assuming ICC would want to play a semi on a proper central pitch rather than this one.
 
Why would it be a write off? NZ are a quality side. It will be a tough game.

Manjrekar comment in the post-match interview. KP in the post-match as well. Seems to be the general view, I think it's 50-50.
 
To fall 30 runs short with 5 wickets still in hand in disgraceful. I'd rather a team actually makes an effort.

India's game management is awful and needs serious reconsidering. They are way too slow and cautious at the front when it's easiest to score runs, and leave way too much for the last 10 when it's hard to get boundaries with the 5 men outside the field & their lower order is the weakest part of their batting line up. Overs 10-40 they're excellent, useless outside of it.

Yes I was hoping that MSD and Jadhav in particular would go for it, but resorting to their current wicket saving mode, they were useless in that situation. I’m also hoping that after that performance, Shastri and Kohli sort that out by having a word or selecting alternatives. I think today England’s bowling forced India's top order to be cautious, especially after losing Rahool(!)so early chasing so many.
 
From what I can make out, it is not known where each of the semis will be held in terms of the team's placing. Hoping it is not upto England to decide where they will play if they do qualify. Also assuming ICC would want to play a semi on a proper central pitch rather than this one.

Wikipedia says 2 vs 3 at Edgbaston.
 
Yea, I don't see how the pitch dimensions matter. Both teams had the chance to plan their strategy.

Agree if Bhuvi was fit and we didn't play him then it was a mistake by us. But still think these kind of weird dimensions should be avoided in a WC.
 
Kohli's post match interview was embarrassing and he looks like an incredibly sore loser bringing up the pitch and boundaries. Not like he was clearing them with ease when we scored 27 in the first 10 overs.

Anyone defending that shite needs to take time off from here.
 
We are likely to play England again. Similar kinda pitch and we will lose. If it favours the bowlers more, we have a better chance. Toss will be important but this bizarre intent was hopefully some unexplainable nonsense that’s not repeated.
If we do play the 2nd vs 3rd semi on this ground again, we will probably go for Bhuvi instead of a spinner..
 
Of couse it matters, we took two leggies into game who were smashed to parts because of the short boundary. Its actually ridiculous it was that small.
Both teams bat on a pitch with the same dimensions. The pitch size is the same for both teams. I take it that the pitch size fell within ICC regulations?

I will repeat that the flat track and the toss were bigger issues.
 
If England defeat NZ and you defeat Bangladesh then wouldn't you go through as both will be on 11 points and you defeated NZ?
Wouldn't the first tie break go on NRR? If the first tie break is head to head, then yes but honestly I can't for the life of me think it is cos that is an absolutely colossally stupid way to go out
 
Complaining about the field size or toss is bizarre as feck. We batted like morons for the first and last 10 and deservedly lost. You cannot chase 340 while batting like its a test match for 20 overs.
 
Kohli's post match interview was embarrassing and he looks like an incredibly sore loser bringing up the pitch and boundaries. Not like he was clearing them with ease when we scored 27 in the first 10 overs.

Anyone defending that shite needs to take time off from here.

It's taken a decade and 5 different forums but for once I agree with you
 
Complaining about the field size or toss is bizarre as feck. We batted like morons for the first and last 10 and deservedly lost. You cannot chase 340 while batting like its a test match for 20 overs.
Or the last 5..
 
Earth to @MJJ our other faster bowler was injured in the game with yourselves. Our only other option was a spinner.

You guys could have played jadeja or taken another fast bowler(instead of vijay). If any other team had made those comments, you guys would be laughing your ass off. Kohli is just reverting to being a sore loser.
 
Pakistan currently have a point less so need England to lose.
He was referring to NZ. If England lose then it's in our hands, but if they win @KM thought that we'd go through as we beat them in our head to head, but surely that isn't right considering NRR or number of wins are usually the first tie breakers.
 
Also, Bhuvi has been back in training since before the West Indies match. I think we decided not to play him and went for Shami and 2 spinners.
 
27 off first 10 while chasing 338 is just :wenger: We played a very dated brand of Cricket, its all about consolidation and hitting big at death. Problem is, in big chases it mounts too much pressure on lower order. It doesn't help we have some absolute cowards in the side. I thought England completely outplayed us in all 3 departments, those cutters/slowers completely wrecked our chase.

England need to be careful though, NZ are more than capable of beating them provided its not a road.
 
Also, Bhuvi has been back in training since before the West Indies match. I think we decided not to play him and went for Shami and 2 spinners.

It wouldn't have made any sense to drop the spinners tbh . Kuldeep ripped England apart last year in odi's. Bhuvi could have gone for 70+ as well on this pitch
 
He was referring to NZ. If England lose then it's in our hands, but if they win @KM thought that we'd go through as we beat them in our head to head, but surely that isn't right considering NRR or number of wins are usually the first tie breakers.

Yeah it's number of wins, then NRR and then Head to Head. Technically if England win against NZ, isn't then still in Pakistan's hand sort of. They will still have to beat Bangladesh and actually have to thump them I imagine.
 
27 off first 10 while chasing 338 is just :wenger: We played a very dated brand of Cricket, its all about consolidation and hitting big at death. Problem is, in big chases it mounts too much pressure on lower order. It doesn't help we have some absolute cowards in the side. I thought England completely outplayed us in all 3 departments, those cutters/slowers completely wrecked our chase.

England need to be careful though, NZ are more than capable of beating them provided its not a road.
I'm hoping for a road.
 
I'm hoping for a road.
Roads were what we were expecting for the whole tournament which is why England were termed favourites in the first place. It was the weather that spoiled your plans a bit but now that it is hot again we are bound to see this pitches more often. Bat first and win the game.
 
It wouldn't have made any sense to drop the spinners tbh . Kuldeep ripped England apart last year in odi's. Bhuvi could have gone for 70+ as well on this pitch
Sure. It was just in response to people saying we didnt have a choice and had to play 2 spinners.

I think it was more by choice than compulsion.
 
Yeah it's number of wins, then NRR and then Head to Head. Technically if England win against NZ, isn't then still in Pakistan's hand sort of. They will still have to beat Bangladesh and actually have to thump them I imagine.
Realistically it isn't, IMO. The NRR deficit is something silly like 400+ runs. We'd need to not only batter Bangladesh by 200+ runs, but hope that England can do likewise against NZ. Very, very improbable.

In all likelihood, the washout vs SL is what's going to cost us as well as the feeble performance in the first game v West Indies.

Like I said though, I'm not too fussed at having to go out after the good showings we've put in after the dismal lows v the Windies and India. I just hope Imran can finally start to clean up the Administration which has been a mess for well over 30 years. Implement the right changes in the team and finally put an end to the nepotism which has hamstrung us for as long as I can remember then build towards the next World Cup.

We've learnt our lessons from the 2016 World T20, and I hope we can learn similar lessons from this year's World Cup as well.
 
Been listening to 6.6 and a lot of people calling in saying India didn't try hard enough to win the game. Mostly Pakistan supporters, tbf.
It wasn't a fix, and the way Kohli, Sharma, Pandya and even Pant batted shows that. It's just Jadhav and Dhoni have been horrendous with the bat during this World Cup - they've been pretty much doing this the whole of their time in England thus far, and Dhoni's reputation as the best finisher has been redundant for a good two years or so now. He just isn't that player anymore.
 
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It wasn't a fix, and the way Kohli, Sharma, Pandya and even Pant batted shows that. It's just Jadhav and Dhoni have been horrendous with the bat during this World Cup - they've been pretty much doing this the whole of their time in England thus far, and Dhoni's reputation as the best finisher has been redundant for a good two years or so now. He just isn't that player anymore.

Vaughan and the Indian guest presenter weren't having any of it, tbf.
 
Been listening to 6.6 and a lot of people calling in saying India didn't try hard enough to win the game. Mostly Pakistan supporters, tbf.

We (mostly Dhoni) has previous for this. As in he stops trying to win the game if target goes out of reach and just tries to get a respectable total instead. Was glad at least Kohli did not defend this approach this time like he had in the past.