senorgregster
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What a bizarre performance by India. They could have chased that down in the last 10.
We are likely to play England again. Similar kinda pitch and we will lose. If it favours the bowlers more, we have a better chance. Toss will be important but this bizarre intent was hopefully some unexplainable nonsense that’s not repeated.
Why would it be a write off? NZ are a quality side. It will be a tough game.
NZ vs England is not a write-off the way a lot of people seem to be treating it imo.
To fall 30 runs short with 5 wickets still in hand in disgraceful. I'd rather a team actually makes an effort.
India's game management is awful and needs serious reconsidering. They are way too slow and cautious at the front when it's easiest to score runs, and leave way too much for the last 10 when it's hard to get boundaries with the 5 men outside the field & their lower order is the weakest part of their batting line up. Overs 10-40 they're excellent, useless outside of it.
From what I can make out, it is not known where each of the semis will be held in terms of the team's placing. Hoping it is not upto England to decide where they will play if they do qualify. Also assuming ICC would want to play a semi on a proper central pitch rather than this one.
Yea, I don't see how the pitch dimensions matter. Both teams had the chance to plan their strategy.
Manjrekar comment in the post-match interview. KP in the post-match as well. Seems to be the general view, I think it's 50-50.
If we do play the 2nd vs 3rd semi on this ground again, we will probably go for Bhuvi instead of a spinner..We are likely to play England again. Similar kinda pitch and we will lose. If it favours the bowlers more, we have a better chance. Toss will be important but this bizarre intent was hopefully some unexplainable nonsense that’s not repeated.
Surprising Cricinfo does not have that then. Oh well... we better win the toss if it us vs Eng in that game.Wikipedia says 2 vs 3 at Edgbaston.
Did england hide the boundary size before the match began? Rashid bowled 6 overs without getting smashed.
I think if Manjreker and KP are making those comments then it’s fair to say they are talking bollocks.
Both teams bat on a pitch with the same dimensions. The pitch size is the same for both teams. I take it that the pitch size fell within ICC regulations?Of couse it matters, we took two leggies into game who were smashed to parts because of the short boundary. Its actually ridiculous it was that small.
Well they're talking nonsense NZ have got every chance.Manjrekar comment in the post-match interview. KP in the post-match as well. Seems to be the general view, I think it's 50-50.
Wouldn't the first tie break go on NRR? If the first tie break is head to head, then yes but honestly I can't for the life of me think it is cos that is an absolutely colossally stupid way to go outIf England defeat NZ and you defeat Bangladesh then wouldn't you go through as both will be on 11 points and you defeated NZ?
Kohli's post match interview was embarrassing and he looks like an incredibly sore loser bringing up the pitch and boundaries. Not like he was clearing them with ease when we scored 27 in the first 10 overs.
Anyone defending that shite needs to take time off from here.
Or the last 5..Complaining about the field size or toss is bizarre as feck. We batted like morons for the first and last 10 and deservedly lost. You cannot chase 340 while batting like its a test match for 20 overs.
Earth to @MJJ our other faster bowler was injured in the game with yourselves. Our only other option was a spinner.
It's taken a decade and 5 different forums but for once I agree with you
Wouldn't the first tie break go on NRR? If the first tie break is head to head, then yes but honestly I can't for the life of me think it is cos that is an absolutely colossally stupid way to go out
Rashid only went for 6.6 an over. Wood and Stokes were far worse.Earth to @MJJ our other faster bowler was injured in the game with yourselves. Our only other option was a spinner.
so who is stalking who?
Yes they can still qualify.Pakistan currently have a point less so need England to lose.
He was referring to NZ. If England lose then it's in our hands, but if they win @KM thought that we'd go through as we beat them in our head to head, but surely that isn't right considering NRR or number of wins are usually the first tie breakers.Pakistan currently have a point less so need England to lose.
Also, Bhuvi has been back in training since before the West Indies match. I think we decided not to play him and went for Shami and 2 spinners.
He was referring to NZ. If England lose then it's in our hands, but if they win @KM thought that we'd go through as we beat them in our head to head, but surely that isn't right considering NRR or number of wins are usually the first tie breakers.
I'm hoping for a road.27 off first 10 while chasing 338 is just We played a very dated brand of Cricket, its all about consolidation and hitting big at death. Problem is, in big chases it mounts too much pressure on lower order. It doesn't help we have some absolute cowards in the side. I thought England completely outplayed us in all 3 departments, those cutters/slowers completely wrecked our chase.
England need to be careful though, NZ are more than capable of beating them provided its not a road.
Roads were what we were expecting for the whole tournament which is why England were termed favourites in the first place. It was the weather that spoiled your plans a bit but now that it is hot again we are bound to see this pitches more often. Bat first and win the game.I'm hoping for a road.
Sure. It was just in response to people saying we didnt have a choice and had to play 2 spinners.It wouldn't have made any sense to drop the spinners tbh . Kuldeep ripped England apart last year in odi's. Bhuvi could have gone for 70+ as well on this pitch
Realistically it isn't, IMO. The NRR deficit is something silly like 400+ runs. We'd need to not only batter Bangladesh by 200+ runs, but hope that England can do likewise against NZ. Very, very improbable.Yeah it's number of wins, then NRR and then Head to Head. Technically if England win against NZ, isn't then still in Pakistan's hand sort of. They will still have to beat Bangladesh and actually have to thump them I imagine.
It wasn't a fix, and the way Kohli, Sharma, Pandya and even Pant batted shows that. It's just Jadhav and Dhoni have been horrendous with the bat during this World Cup - they've been pretty much doing this the whole of their time in England thus far, and Dhoni's reputation as the best finisher has been redundant for a good two years or so now. He just isn't that player anymore.Been listening to 6.6 and a lot of people calling in saying India didn't try hard enough to win the game. Mostly Pakistan supporters, tbf.
It wasn't a fix, and the way Kohli, Sharma, Pandya and even Pant batted shows that. It's just Jadhav and Dhoni have been horrendous with the bat during this World Cup - they've been pretty much doing this the whole of their time in England thus far, and Dhoni's reputation as the best finisher has been redundant for a good two years or so now. He just isn't that player anymore.
Been listening to 6.6 and a lot of people calling in saying India didn't try hard enough to win the game. Mostly Pakistan supporters, tbf.