Howard Webb's Performance

I'm in Amsterdamn right now. They are furious with his inconsistency, which he was. And very much so.

But it doesn't matter what happened before, if a WC final ends on a horrible call, people are going to blame the ref. I was there, watched a team win it at the last minute in extra time and it was emotionless because we all saw the error on the other end. Doesn't matter how logical you want to be, the final play was what won the game and that's the only definitive moment. Everything else is what would have been.

For me, in the stadium, it was the worst possible ending and sadly one I predicted the minute Webb was put in charge.

Good post. Spain were the better team, but Webb influenced the result.
 
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and yes it's fecking disgusting

The part of Iniesta's game I hate

*but there was a Kung Fu kick at the beggining of the game, so you know, it might not be as disgusting as I thought
 
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and yes it's fecking disgusting

The part of Iniesta's game I hate

Thanks.

He'd be my favorite player in the world if he wasn't such a diving cheating, cnut.

Hate to see someone with that much talent fall back on that with such regularity.
 
People saying Iniesta's diving is "disgusting" :lol:

This is the same match where a kung fu kick to the chest occurred yeah?

feck me we're still on the anti-Spain tip ey?
 
People saying Iniesta's diving is "disgusting" :lol:

This is the same match where a kung fu kick to the chest occurred yeah?

feck me we're still on the anti-Spain tip ey?

Ok, a video was shown of Iniesta commiting a horrible dive, something that plagues his game for many seasons, it was rightly called horrible, what do you want people to say?

Oh it was a horrible dive, but there was a Kung Fu kick in the beggining of the game, is that what you think is on people's minds when they see that video? There's a whole thread dedicated to that Kung Fu kick, we can bring it up in every post if it makes you happy. Hopefully that would make what Iniesta does ok?

Everytime Iniesta commits an awful dive from now till the end of his playing days the Kung Fu kick shall be mentioned from now on just so you think there's no Spanish bias. It's been mentioned he's a brilliant player, but this part of his game people don't like, just like many great players.

When the hell did you get so Paranoid to the point we can't call a spade a spade without referring to the Dutch
 
And I say it's not his fecking job to keep the game a spectacle and if he'd been a better ref the ill disciplined players would have soon got the message.

It's not his job per se, however, how can you miss that if he's a 'good' ref that thought will of course be in his mind ?

He'd be a shit ref if he thought "aah fkit, its only the world cup final I'll send off 7 players and to hell with it, lets really fk it up for everybody especially the global billions watching it

And how on earth do the players, seeing cards coming out left right and centre, for the right and justified reasons and getting seriously hardcore bollockings, not 'get the fking message'?? How fking dumb is that?

They, especially the Dutch, got the message alright but chose rather than to bring it down a level to take it up a notch and make it impossible for the officials to control the game

Come off it, it is the world cup final it is special it has to dealt with differently than Hackney Marshes
 
the final play was what won the game and that's the only definitive moment.

Thats complete bollocks

The Dutch had every opportunity to clear that after the event

Robben's misses were more definitive than any of that

If I were Dutch I'd be ashamed at my teams appalling attitude in the game and fking utterly pissed off at Robbens inability to finish the game when presented with golden opportunities

Outside of any refereeing they had great chances to win this trophy and they ( and you) are conveniently forgetting any of that
 
People saying Iniesta's diving is "disgusting" :lol:

This is the same match where a kung fu kick to the chest occurred yeah?

feck me we're still on the anti-Spain tip ey?

You do realize you can dislike both things, right?

This isn't rocket science.

I can dislike a rapist and a murderer at the same time.
 
People saying Iniesta's diving is "disgusting" :lol:

This is the same match where a kung fu kick to the chest occurred yeah?

feck me we're still on the anti-Spain tip ey?

Mockers, Iniesta's horrible and disgusting diving has feck all to do with De Jong's despicable and horrendous kung fu kick. These are indeed two seperate entities.
 
And how on earth do the players, seeing cards coming out left right and centre, for the right and justified reasons and getting seriously hardcore bollockings, not 'get the fking message'?? How fking dumb is that?

Simple. Because they were only seeing yellows.
 
Mockers, Iniesta's horrible and disgusting diving has feck all to do with De Jong's despicable and horrendous kung fu kick. These are indeed two seperate entities.

I've long thought De Jong was the worst player in football and that has nothing to do with how much respect I lost for Iniesta and Spain during this world cup.
 
De Jong should have been at least carded, and Robben should have earned a peno, I can see why both finalist would be agreived but well he didnt do that bad compared to many of the other refs at the cup
 
One was a decent save, the other he was fouled and Puyols should have been sent off. So, not a good point.

No very obvious and relevant point - the main turning point of the whole game

One was a shocking miss and he's admitted that, saying he should have taken it round the keeper as he had plenty of time to do it

And the other he was clear of Puyol and had an opportunity to slip it under or over Casillas (watch it from behind the goal)

Two cast iron chances that we'd you'd refer to as 'open goals' 'sitters' and he and Holland blew their big chance

Nomatter what happened later, Robben and Holland should have been clean away......but we'll forget that shall we
 
No very obvious and relevant point - the main turning point of the whole game

One was a shocking miss and he's admitted that, saying he should have taken it round the keeper as he had plenty of time to do it

And the other he was clear of Puyol and had an opportunity to slip it under or over Casillas (watch it from behind the goal)

Two cast iron chances that we'd you'd refer to as 'open goals' 'sitters' and he and Holland blew their big chance

Nomatter what happened later, Robben and Holland should have been clean away......but we'll forget that shall we

You've got some bizarre agenda and it's boring.
 
As for Van Bommel, I thought he played well. He is a super annoying player, always on the fringe of what is legal, always trying to interfere, but you can't deny he interpreted his role very well on Sunday. One hard foul on Iniesta, that was it. Iniesta made a meal of it all game long. He's lucky Claudio Gentile wasn't around to mark him.
That's about right. Too many people on here listened to the UK TV take on it, which in contrast to their normal 'can't just let them play', need to 'get in among them' and 'don't like it up 'em' went on the Dutch-as-anti-football tip.
 
You've got some bizarre agenda and it's boring.

And you make points that have utterly no substance to them and are clearly wrong.

Go on, argue against my 'Robben had enough chances to win the damn thing' outside of any officiating influences

Go on, argue, explain precisely how that non given foul on Elias 8 yards from the Spanish goal line managed to directly effect a goal where Navas took the ball on 50 yards went round three players before a Dutch tackle, which moved the ball to Fabregas who then pushed a deflected pass to Torres who then tried to reach Iniesta but the ball actually went to a Dutch defender, who put back to Fabregas, who eventually found Iniesta with an accurate ball .....who scored

If you read that and look at the replay of those events (YouTube - Foul by Ramos on Elia in the build up to Spain's World Cup)
you've got to be a complete idiotic gimp to say that the ref's decision to not give the foul resulted in the Spanish goal - fking insane.

The Dutch could have cleared it, gained possession twice during these random events

They lost cos they did not take their chances even though by the time those chances came about they should have been down to 8 men but for a ref trying to keep the game alive

Have to say here the Dutch , whom I've always loved and respected football wise and as a people are coming out of this looking like the biggest twats in football history
 
I think he did a decent job.

He gave a couple of early cards, which i think were fair enough. That should have calmed things down a bit, but it didnt.

When you have players like van Bommel or de Jong going around assaulting people, then the refs always going to have a tough job.

I think he was on the wrong side to see the de Jong kick.

He sould have given a free kick to Holland when Elia was blocked and he missed the corner before Spain scored.

Apart from that, i thought he did ok.
 
He's a bottler, particularly in the first 15 minutes of games.
 
Two things.

1. It seems that since he gave us a penalty against Tottenham years ago, everyone has been calling him "on the United payroll" and he's given us feck all since. Another one that gives 50/50 against us each time to "not show his bias". Bollocks.

2. Why do Chelsea get every fecking decision at the Bridge? It's not like they have an imposing crowd or anything. Our away support always out sings them. fecking joke.
 
The Cahill foul on Welbeck. What else? Chelsea haven't gotten every decision. Look at the foul count.
 
Referee isn't perfect shocker.

He's still the best ref in the country.
 
Referee isn't perfect shocker.

He's still the best ref in the country.

No he isn't, he's fecking terrible.

The best refs are the ones I don't notice at the end of the game. I'll think back to who it was and what they did and can't remember.

The likes of Webb, Atkinson and Foy are always in the news, always in mind after matches. Because they're incompetent, attention seeking twats.

I shouldn't even know their names.
 
thought Luiz got lucky in injury time but there was no way he was pointing to the spot for a 3rd time there
 
Both our penalties today were debatable. He was messing up all 90 minutes. Thankfully, again against Chelsea, we were at the ultimate better end of it.

Universe is in balance now.
 
And so it will all begin again. Despite them being penalties.
 
You should have got a penalty in the first 10 minutes, and Cahill sent off.
Neither of your penalties were penalties. And if he gives the second one, he has to give Ivanovic another yellow.

What happened to the respect referees campaign? After Luiz's dive, did Scholes tell Webb to feck off? Instead of disciplining Scholes, Webb then promptly fecked off.

He's a mess.
 
We'll hear about those two penalties for the next 10 years while the penalty we didn't get in the first half and the fact that Cahill should've sent off are conveniently ignored. Just like Palacios' wild lunge was ignored when we got the penalty that was worth 5 goals against Spurs